Help new to vaping

[Sugar_and_Spice]

My little ego stick had 2 tiny holes, and I was using 70vg/30pg 12mg and it's the same liquid I'm using in my new DL mod device, I did just realize I was pulling very slowly from my new mod device and it was making me cough. I just tried pulling faster and didn't cough so I guess it's going to take me some time to get used to the huge difference in the airhole ventilation

Your tank should have air holes on the base of the tank. You should be able to close those down to whatever you like by turning the ring. If you are unsure look at the manual that came with the gear. This should lessen the amount of air you are pulling through the tank. Just do not close it all the way. You still need some air to keep the coil cool.

And you can probably use just about any tank on the mod that you choose. 510 threads are the standard on most tanks and that is what the threads are on the gear you have.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

You can go as low or high as you want, within reason. Too low no vapor and too high will be hot and bad flavor.

I have a RDA on my mod right now, .3 exactly and I"m at 60 watts. I move up and down all day. For me on my mod 46 is as low as I'd go it's 3.7v. As a DTL vaper, anything below 3.7v the vape is just too cool and too long to ramp up, but everyone is different and uses different atomizers.

That is just way to hot for me. I don't want a hot vape....prefer a cool one. And have no problem with ramp up time on stock coils or rta's.
But this young lady is using stock coils, so we should just stick with what she has, not what we are using ourselves.

 

[Diver9543]

Hello and welcome to ECF. I can't add to what you have already been told. I just wanted to hi.

 

[papergoblin]

That is just way to hot for me. I don't want a hot vape....prefer a cool one. And have no problem with ramp up time on stock coils or rta's.
But this young lady is using stock coils, so we should just stick with what she has, not what we are using ourselves.

Didn't tell her to change anything. Just gave her an example how a .3 coil can be used at different watts, that's why I said we all vape differently and why I made point to say what type of vaper I am. I didn't want a MTL vaper trying to go too high on power.

I've seen many new vapers get confused by the coil ratings, personally I think they shouldn't list anything other than resistance. That's why I try to give examples to people to get them to understand it's not a set min or max, it's what each person likes.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Didn't tell her to change anything. Just gave her an example how a .3 coil can be used at different watts, that's why I said we all vape differently and why I made point to say what type of vaper I am. I didn't want a MTL vaper trying to go too high on power.

I've seen many new vapers get confused by the coil ratings, personally I think they shouldn't list anything other than resistance. That's why I try to give examples to people to get them to understand it's not a set min or max, it's what each person likes.

I guess we just have different styles in the way we approach subjects. I personally only want to answer the OP questions and not further confuse them with introducing things they may have no idea about yet. The learning curve in vaping is not really hard but I have heard many new vapers express being confused about the amount of info thrown at them. We all had to learn to crawl before we could walk..

 

[papergoblin]

I guess we just have different styles in the way we approach subjects. I personally only want to answer the OP questions and not further confuse them with introducing things they may have no idea about yet. The learning curve in vaping is not really hard but I have heard many new vapers express being confused about the amount of info thrown at them. We all had to learn to crawl before we could walk..

I get that 100%, that's why I hate when they list coil power ratings. I should have just said power is fluid, it can be raised and lowered depending on taste and/or mood and ignore the coil power rating, lol.

 

[Punk In Drublic]

I've seen many new vapers get confused by the coil ratings, personally I think they shouldn't list anything other than resistance. That's why I try to give examples to people to get them to understand it's not a set min or max, it's what each person likes.

They get confused because the industry makes it confusing. And we, as experienced users sometimes do not help when we over complicate our answers. Probably a reason why we are seeing a rise in popularity with AIO and pod systems. They are simple and easy to use. There is absolutely 0 technical knowledge needed to smoke a cigarette. Migrating over to vaping can be very over whelming! I have an extensive engineering and technical background. The whole functionality of a regulated (or even an unregulated) mod is second nature to me. But yet it took me a good week to figure out the difference between DTL vs MTL regardless of what I read on the web. Both actions enter through the mouth and end up in your lungs!!

The industry is fragmented and convoluted! Sorry, rant over

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

They get confused because the industry makes it confusing. And we, as experienced users sometimes do not help when we over complicate our answers. Probably a reason why we are seeing a rise in popularity with AIO and pod systems. They are simple and easy to use. There is absolutely 0 technical knowledge needed to smoke a cigarette. Migrating over to vaping can be very over whelming! I have an extensive engineering and technical background. The whole functionality of a regulated (or even an unregulated) mod is second nature to me. But yet it took me a good week to figure out the difference between DTL vs MTL regardless of what I read on the web. Both actions enter through the mouth and end up in your lungs!!

The industry is fragmented and convoluted! Sorry, rant over

This is a great example of why I hate labels......I vape at what suits me at the moment, I don't care what its called or classified at. I have some juices(I DIY) that just cannot be tasted at higher levels of power, the heat kills the flavoring so in those tanks I use more of a restricted type of gear(some would call mtl). Other juices it doesn't matter whether it is higher watts or not. And to further confuse you, I have found that sometimes it makes a difference not only in the tank/coil setup but can actually taste better/different on other mods. Even drip tips can make a world of difference in the experience. I don't know the science behind some of what I just said, all I know is I have tested extensively and this is what I have experienced. So a little experimentation may be well worth your while in finding your favorite vaping journey.

 

[uthinkofsomething]

I started out with 510 cartos and went up the chain to low sub ohm dl vaping over four years and I like a thick warm cloudy flavorful vape . I'm looking at the OP stating .3 coil and all I'm thinking is that is way too low to make me happy, it doesn't get good til you hit 50 .
There are a lot of different styles of vaping though. The way I vape is not for everyone, but at some point I vaped in a similar way to most everyone.
Some people take a low res coil, close down the airflow and run it at low wattage like an airy mouth to lung inhale. Some go for hotter restricted direct lung. I think that's the same thing, semantics lol.
I know you have to develope a feel for how your setup works and what it can actually do. They are generally intended to be used a certain way but have some versatility.
Some things to think about would be: how much cloud do you want to produce and how much flavor? Different coils make a big difference on both. With a .3 coil you may get more vapor than you want but not as much flavor unless you up the wattage, but then that's way too much cloud, so you can close off the airflow but then it is too hot because the wattage is too high lol, so what you really want would be a higher resistance coil.
Or you may find like me you like a nice deep lungfull of thick tasty warm custard. Higher wattage, low resistance, lots of air cools down the vape.
Nicotine strength is an important consideration. You don't need hight nic like 12 18 24mg etc to get your fix if you are jonesing. In a direct lung setup you are getting more at one time, so the concentration of the eliquid needs to be lower or you will over do it.
The way I vape, if I use 6mg it makes breathing a little restricted and is a little harsh. Doesn't taste great either...

 

[Dannielle.c92]

I just want to say thank you to everyone who posted. There is still alot I need to learn. And alot of u brought up a lot of things to learn about. With my .3 ohm coil I was scared to bring it down to below 30watts Because of what it says on the coil but when a few people said bringing it down below 30watts woouwoulbe an issue so I did end up bringing it down to about 22-24 watts with the airholes halfway closed I get good flavor
(to me anyways) and a nice cloud that I enjoy.... If there is any other information any of you believe I should know please comment and tell me.. once again thank you to everyone who commented

 

[papergoblin]

I just want to say thank you to everyone who posted. There is still alot I need to learn. And alot of u brought up a lot of things to learn about. With my .3 ohm coil I was scared to bring it down to below 30watts Because of what it says on the coil but when a few people said bringing it down below 30watts woouwoulbe an issue so I did end up bringing it down to about 22-24 watts with the airholes halfway closed I get good flavor
(to me anyways) and a nice cloud that I enjoy.... If there is any other information any of you believe I should know please comment and tell me.. once again thank you to everyone who commented

I think you've figured out the most important part, power and airflow. Now use that mentality as you progress and you'll be on a good path. Generally it's never one thing that makes a good vape it's the combined little things like, power and airflow, not just one or the other.

Then of course, the only stupid question, is the one not asked. So when in doubt always ask, you make get a lot of opinions or the way I view it, options to try, lol.

 

[Dannielle.c92]

I started out with 510 cartos and went up the chain to low sub ohm dl vaping over four years and I like a thick warm cloudy flavorful vape . I'm looking at the OP stating .3 coil and all I'm thinking is that is way too low to make me happy, it doesn't get good til you hit 50 .
There are a lot of different styles of vaping though. The way I vape is not for everyone, but at some point I vaped in a similar way to most everyone.
Some people take a low res coil, close down the airflow and run it at low wattage like an airy mouth to lung inhale. Some go for hotter restricted direct lung. I think that's the same thing, semantics lol.
I know you have to develope a feel for how your setup works and what it can actually do. They are generally intended to be used a certain way but have some versatility.
Some things to think about would be: how much cloud do you want to produce and how much flavor? Different coils make a big difference on both. With a .3 coil you may get more vapor than you want but not as much flavor unless you up the wattage, but then that's way too much cloud, so you can close off the airflow but then it is too hot because the wattage is too high lol, so what you really want would be a higher resistance coil.
Or you may find like me you like a nice deep lungfull of thick tasty warm custard. Higher wattage, low resistance, lots of air cools down the vape.
Nicotine strength is an important consideration. You don't need hight nic like 12 18 24mg etc to get your fix if you are jonesing. In a direct lung setup you are getting more at one time, so the concentration of the eliquid needs to be lower or you will over do it.
The way I vape, if I use 6mg it makes breathing a little restricted and is a little harsh. Doesn't taste great either...

I am uing 12mg of nic in my DL mod device and honestly now that I found a temporary sweet spot. The 12mg of nicotine doesn't give me any type of harsh throat hit , it's actually smooth with the wattage at 22.7 and airflow half closed today I am going to get 3mg or 6mg nicotine to see if those will be different. But the 12mg doesn't burn , no harsh throat hit.. is it dangerous for the tank, or coils or mod to use 12mg E-liquid in the device I'm using ? Or is 12mg just not recommended

 

[Punk In Drublic]

@Dannielle.c92 – Vaping is very subjective and each of us will have different preferences and values over the next. And despite our good and sometimes complex advise, in the end it’s what makes you happy.

If your coil states 30 to 60 watts, there is nothing wrong with using it within that range. Going above 60 watts will obviously run the risk of burning out your coil. But absolutely no harm running lower than the stated value. May not be enjoyable, and only you can determine that, but nothing to be concerned about. Besides, the coil was probably designed by an engineer who doesn’t vape.

Asking for advice is great and I fully encourage it. But it can be more rewarding and educational to experiment on your own terms and find your own answers. Don’t let the device and all the new technical mumbo-jumbo frustrate and or intimidate you. Have fun!

 

[uthinkofsomething]

I am uing 12mg of nic in my DL mod device and honestly now that I found a temporary sweet spot. The 12mg of nicotine doesn't give me any type of harsh throat hit , it's actually smooth with the wattage at 22.7 and airflow half closed today I am going to get 3mg or 6mg nicotine to see if those will be different. But the 12mg doesn't burn , no harsh throat hit.. is it dangerous for the tank, or coils or mod to use 12mg E-liquid in the device I'm using ? Or is 12mg just not recommended

12mg will probably be fine for you the way you are vaping now, low wattage, cool vape, less airflow. Definitely not an issue for the tank.
Regardless of vaping style you could "overdose" on nicotine, say if you were just vaping non stop for too long. You would possibly feel a little nauseous or maybe light headed, some people get hiccups lol. Not much to worry about, just take a break and drink some water. Goes away in 20 minutes give or take.
If you go to lower nicotine and you are one who feels strongly addicted to it and need it like a smoke, with the way you are vaping right now it may not be as satisfying because you are getting less nicotine. Then you may want to up the wattage and open up the air a little. If you do just go a couple watts at a time and take a couple drags until it is too warm or too much vapor for you, then turn it back down to where you were happiest with it.

 

[Letitia]

I am uing 12mg of nic in my DL mod device and honestly now that I found a temporary sweet spot. The 12mg of nicotine doesn't give me any type of harsh throat hit , it's actually smooth with the wattage at 22.7 and airflow half closed today I am going to get 3mg or 6mg nicotine to see if those will be different. But the 12mg doesn't burn , no harsh throat hit.. is it dangerous for the tank, or coils or mod to use 12mg E-liquid in the device I'm using ? Or is 12mg just not recommended

I vaped much as you are with 12mg for some months. Nic level is subjective to the individual, your body will tell you when/if you need to go lower/higher. If you start getting head rushes start to lower nic gradually. Buy some 6mg in the same flavor and mix 3 parts 12mg with 1 part 6mg. Just play with ratios until you find what works.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I am uing 12mg of nic in my DL mod device and honestly now that I found a temporary sweet spot. The 12mg of nicotine doesn't give me any type of harsh throat hit , it's actually smooth with the wattage at 22.7 and airflow half closed today I am going to get 3mg or 6mg nicotine to see if those will be different. But the 12mg doesn't burn , no harsh throat hit.. is it dangerous for the tank, or coils or mod to use 12mg E-liquid in the device I'm using ? Or is 12mg just not recommended

As others have stated no harm will come to the gear. Whether you stay at 12mg or lower the nic strength really depends on you and how you vape. If you are vaping non stop then you could get nic sick as described above in another post(depends on what your body needs). I find when that happens to me I take a couple bites of food. Or eat a slice of bread. It really helps take the headache away and the general nausea away too. This is why it is recommended for a lower strength in DL devices......but you need to do whatever you feel is necessary to keep you away from cigarettes and only you know what that may be. Never hurts to experiment a little to see if you do like something better or if its better suited to you.

@Letitia has a good suggestion if you decide you need to lower your nic strength....doing it in small amounts at a time keeps those cig cravings away and its easier for your body to adjust. You may not even notice less nic. But if you do notice it and start craving a smoke, then go right back to the 12mg.

Let us know how it is going and if you do have more questions there is always someone around 24/7. May take a little longer to get an answer in the early morning hours so just hang in there....LOL

 

[stols001]

Welcome and glad most of your problems are solved, as far as your eliquid if you are not getting nic overload symptoms and you feel fine, there is no reason you MUST lower your nicotine. Everyone has their own style of vaping. I am vaping a (RTA type coil) that is about 0.3 ohms but I vape it MTL style at something like 18 watts. I have no need to reduce my nicotine because even though it is "technically" a sub0hm coil, how I vape it really gives me a MTL experience, and I don't burn through a lot of juice either. I have no idea why it is working I was aiming for a higher resistance but that is what I got, it works fine, problem solved.

There may come times where you are you are using a cloudier setup and need lower nic, but if you are not running into issues, no harm, no foul.

Welcome tor ECF and good luck!

Anna

 

[BrotherBob]

If there is any other information any of you believe I should know please comment and tell me.. once again thank you to everyone who commented

Welcome and glad you joined.
The information below may help you to obtain a good foundation of vaping knowledge.
Might like to read:
Learn About Vaping Here - Everything Ecigs - From Beginner To Advanced
Vaping and Inhaling: Everything You Need To Know
https://spinfuel.com/new-vapers-start/
ECigarette Academy: Essential Need to Know for New Vapers
Beginner – Guide To Vaping
Vape 101: Here's Everything You Need to Know about Vaping
6 Quick & Useful Vaping Tips for Beginners
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...up-the-vaping-ladder-with-egos-and-mods.5058/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...nk-or-what-a-guide-to-juice-attachments.3230/

 

[Dannielle.c92]

Update, I was using 12mg of nicotine and I was chain vaping I had airholes halfway closed and my wattage at 22watts but I ended up getting nauseous and feeling sick. I then slowed down and the next day I went and bought this delicious E-liquid with only 3mg ( Naked 100 berry lush) it's absolutely delicious. And I am now able to chain vape when Im craving for some nicotine and I found a couple of sweet spots for my wattage which is between 23-30watts.