Hi,15 years smoker needs your help

[Lex S]

Hi,im a 15 years smoker.I heard about E-cig years ago,but back them the market is still small,and i don't want to try it before it get bigger and products get safer

First of all,I'm currently living in Canada,so can anyone form Canada share some good,legit web-store you been using so I can buy form them without worrying if they are fakes.I did googled,but websites i found are neither small (lesser and older models) or insanely overprice.

Yes I know I can buy most stuff form their official US website if they have one ,but Canadian custom hasn't been my best friend for last couple years.And I still not sure if e-juice may have problems passing the custom even with non-nicotine ones

Second it safety VS power for mods.I don't think I will get a mechanical mod since my only goal for now is reduce the smoking of real cigarettes.So if we put the "mechanical mods" aside,do I still need to worry about safety when i look between different mods for over 60USD like Evic-supreme or Provair V2.5?

I been coming back and forth between Provair 2.5,P3 and Evic-superme,anyone willing to offer your opinions?

Here is what I have so far:Every where I check,people on the Provari side been saying Provari has a higher price because of it's higher build quality and "MAKE IN USA".

But that's is what puzzled me: If Provari's price is higher because the cost of building a better quality product is higher,then why provari V2.5 came out at 169USD and now its 79USD on their official website with not stock limit ?Did they change to lower end part?Did they downgrade their build quality? Or they just added 90 USD for their branding and "technology advanced " at that time(V2.5) or even dipping on people's
patriotism.Since its 79USD on their official website with not stock limits,clearly they can still make money form this prices.
So if this product is so well build and safe that it worth 169USD for many people don't need more power for vaping.It must the best choice for people like me whom just looking for something to reduce the smoking of real cigarette? It's almost the same price as a Evic-supreme now.

For less expensive ones like Evic-supreme and SVD 2.0(price when they all just came out,they are cheaper than Provari V2.5), V2.5 may have better build quality,but for safety are they close ?Or close enough for not to be worry about?

Thank you.

 

[jaba62]

Hi,
You may be looking at a "blemished" provari for $79. They sell them sometimes with small imperfections at a cheaper price. I did once look into them but could not justify their price and they are really more than I need. I've stuck with my Isticks and nautilus tanks for as long as I have been vaping. I have never had a problem with any of them. It all depends on what your preference is.

 

[r77r7r]

Safety is moreso user, not device. Those older provari are pretty low tech. Isticks all the way for me also.

 

[Lex S]

Hi,
You may be looking at a "blemished" provari for $79. They sell them sometimes with small imperfections at a cheaper price. I did once look into them but could not justify their price and they are really more than I need. I've stuck with my Isticks and nautilus tanks for as long as I have been vaping. I have never had a problem with any of them. It all depends on what your preference is.

Wow thanks for fast reply!I did check many times,i think they lower the price since a newer "radius?" come out?
ProVari Regular & Mini Variable Voltage Ecig: Best Variable Voltage E Cig Available!

My budget is about 100-150 USD or 150-200 CAD for MOD.(After all,cigarettes cost about 11USD a pack in this city)
Are there other mods you can suggest for me? Safety comes first,and then how good they can perform with per-build tank like Aspire Nautilus so can help me better with getting off cigarette.Build quality....why not,but as long as they are as safe as top niche's products can get ,I can tolerate if they are not "provari...ly"

Thank you for reading all these,i was worry if it's too long so no one will read it XD

 

[Lex S]

Safety is moreso user, not device. Those older provari are pretty low tech. Isticks all the way for me also.

Thank you for reply,What do you mean by moreso users?If im willing buy higher end battery? Sure,when it comes to price,even drink single molt whiskey all day lone is cheaper than smoking a pack per day in these city...
So I don't have to worry about if they are less safer even i get a chinese brand mod if they are over 60-80 USD?

 

[stalkster]

Most issue's, if not 99% of them you see "e-cig explodes" etc are mech mods and user error. I smoked for 15yr's also and had a similar experience with ciglikes about 3yr's ago. After getting a decent starter kit a yr ago, I never went back due to breathing issues i had/made myself quit analogs. Personally the best advice I could give, if I could go back is get a device that is capable of 50-80watts. You may not start that high but will save you from upgrading multiple times over your journey. There's tank out there you can buy replacement coils for and will last a few days to a week or so depending on how much you vape. This can also be a draw back since you wont really be saving money going threw 15-25$ worth of coils in a month+juice prices. Building your own coil is much cheaper and pretty much just involves wrapping a wire around a screwdriver/drill bit etc.

The big factor is finding the right tank/rta/rda etc and nicotine level that suits your needs, there's a good chance you will prefer mouth to lung as your just starting out. Something with multiple coils solutions would be a great tank to start out, if you don't want to make your own coils like a Aspire Triton 2. Which comes with a 1.8ohm coil that's suitable for mouth to lung and also includes a .5ohm for lung inhales. as far as mods go anything from IPV or Sigelei are good safe/dependable devices.

I'm not sure where you can purchase things in Canada. With the chance of you preferring a temp control device after some use, I would aim for something like Sigelei 75W TC, or IPV D2. As far as a tank something like a aspire triton /v2. I'm not to big on replaceable coil tanks as I adapted to building my own coils/making my own juice after about 2 months of vaping. A cheaper option but limited to mouth to lung is the Aspire nautilus mini and say a Istick 30 or 40w. I was amazed going from a cheap 30$ starter kit to a Istick 20w with a nautilus mini, and things kinda grew from there. Which turned into always looking for that next better mod/tank/rda until I was happy/settled with my current setup.

 

[Lex S]

Thanks for your comprehensive reply.
Building coils myself since like a good idea the way you were putting.Didnt know a replaceble coil only last for about a week,thought they can last longer
I guess i can get more than one tank,one RDA and one with replacement coils.
So..for the mod.Temp control device with no lower than 40 watts for under 150 USD, Anything comes to mind?There are sooooo many different brands.And even for a well-known brand like IPV,there is IPV4...form what I read IPV4 are a poorly build and even unsafe with the recharge board? I'm so worry if I will be end up with something like that.

 

[Lex S]

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Most issue's, if not 99% of them you see "e-cig explodes" etc are mech mods and user error. I smoked for 15yr's also and had a similar experience with ciglikes about 3yr's ago. After getting a decent starter kit a yr ago, I never went back due to breathing issues i had/made myself quit analogs. Personally the best advice I could give, if I could go back is get a device that is capable of 50-80watts. You may not start that high but will save you from upgrading multiple times over your journey. There's tank out there you can buy replacement coils for and will last a few days to a week or so depending on how much you vape. This can also be a draw back since you wont really be saving money going threw 15-25$ worth of coils in a month+juice prices. Building your own coil is much cheaper and pretty much just involves wrapping a wire around a screwdriver/drill bit etc.

The big factor is finding the right tank/rta/rda etc and nicotine level that suits your needs, there's a good chance you will prefer mouth to lung as your just starting out. Something with multiple coils solutions would be a great tank to start out, if you don't want to make your own coils like a Aspire Triton 2. Which comes with a 1.8ohm coil that's suitable for mouth to lung and also includes a .5ohm for lung inhales. as far as mods go anything from IPV or Sigelei are good safe/dependable devices.

I'm not sure where you can purchase things in Canada. With the chance of you preferring a temp control device after some use, I would aim for something like Sigelei 75W TC, or IPV D2. As far as a tank something like a aspire triton /v2. I'm not to big on replaceable coil tanks as I adapted to building my own coils/making my own juice after about 2 months of vaping. A cheaper option but limited to mouth to lung is the Aspire nautilus mini and say a Istick 30 or 40w. I was amazed going from a cheap 30$ starter kit to a Istick 20w with a nautilus mini, and things kinda grew from there. Which turned into always looking for that next better mod/tank/rda until I was happy/settled with my current setup.

Thanks for your comprehensive reply.
Building coils myself since like a good idea the way you put it .Didnt know a replaceble coil only last for about a week,thought they can last longer
I guess i can get more than one tank,one RDA and one with replacement coils just in case.
So..for the mod.Temp control device with no lower than 40 watts for under 150 USD, Anything comes to mind ? There are sooooo many different brands.And even for a well-known brand like IPV,there is IPV4...form what I read IPV4 are a poorly build and even unsafe with the recharge board? I'm so worry if I will be end up with something like that.

 

[djsvapour]

A Provari is a Provari, forever. They got a bit behind in the power race, but it's still a quality product.

Pioneer4you is a cheap Chinese make. There will be as many failures as other most other Chinese mods, but many more than Innokin, according to Vendors in the UK.
If I needed a mod tomorrow, I would buy one, happily (an IPV) with the expectation of it not lasting very long.
I bought an eVic mini yesterday, I bought one with the expectation of it not lasting very long.

We're just having some fun here (UK) before the zombie apocalypse in 5 months. Then, it'll be DIY liquid, rebuildable tanks and mechanical mods (maybe).
I actually expect mods to be around regardless since their is no wording to regulate the power supply for an e-cig, just new laws regarding liquid and tanks.

 

[T!nman]

Hi there.....I was a smoker for 33 yrs and now a vaper of 7+ years.....1st off congratulations on your decision to vape rather than smoke and also thinking of safety, proper product purchases, and longevity in vaping. With that safety should never change...always maintain the best standard feasible within your budget without compromise. Longevity into vaping begins with a product that works efficiently and easily to replace the craving and muscle memory involved in cigarette smoking. Therefore proper product purchases in the beginning is essential to longevity in vaping ( if the products no good you will buy cigarettes to replace your mod and vaping experience). Sooooo where to begin is the real question and ''stalkster'' above did hit a few valid points. I am going to write this note plainly so as not to overload you--my hopes is for you to quite smoking. Here it goes...
Mods--Ultimately down the road you will purchase a mod of 40-75 watts.Reasoning is as you vape longer and gain experience you will find a ''sweet spot'' that you prefer. That sweet spot may be the type of wire used-Kanthal/Nichol/Titanium/Stainless steel 304 or 316L. Each wire has a different flavor ( yes -a cooler vape or a faster ramp time etc..maybe you prefer a dripper or not) But...that mod must be capable to handle whatever wire you want also produce the warmth to the vapor you desire at a price you can afford with safety paramount.Also that mod must fit your personnel characteristic needs such as ( do you want something stealthy to hide in your pocket at work or do you want longevity in battery life to last a coupke of days). The products are there but which one????
Provari---an extremely well made work horse in the vaping community with safety at its highest standard in every step of development. I still use my 2 provaries to this day-they just wont die. But they are vv/ vw mods and a Kanthal wire mod. So you are limited by temp control and other types of wire.
Joytech evic VTC mini---An upgradeable mod (go to Joytech.com) a a free upgrade to 75 watts and stainless steel usage is is availabe. Outof the box its 60 watts and handles titanium/nichol/kanthal. I purchased mine for $36 and its worth more when compared to many others.
Wismec Relleaux RX200--3 Battery mod but fits nicely in the hand no stealth here. Yet is TC and will handle all wires and also can push up to 200 watts. I purchased mine through ''Gearbest '' for $48 and find it to be oustanding. Its also upgradable via usb port just like the Joytech
You dont have to spend $150 on a quality mod in todays market...if you do save $75 more and jump to a Clouper Mod--as they advertise it the last mod you will ever buy. Fully upgradeable...adjustable...and can be rebuilt by the user. I own one was it worth it---no!!! I prefer the SX mini and Wismec !!!
ATOMIZERS---to quite smoking I'm only going to suggest 2 for now. In the beginning to make/build a coil without a cigarette is going to piss you off. SO...what do you smoke while building this coil??? A cigarette. Hey in the beginning buy an ASPIRE TRITON...yes you will have a go to atomizer every day and the coil will last a week easily. This way you will never run out of vape time and can adjust it to your liking plus play with different wire types and wattage settings to find ''YOUR SWEET SPOT''.
A Rebuildable....its not a pretty one but I own them all...its a ''FLASH E VAPOR'' for your 1ST rebuildable. This product is well respected as a staple atomizer in the UK. Easy to build a coil on with tons of room. I use STAINLESS Steel mesh for my 2 wicks and either Titanium or 316L SS wire for coils. Easy to wick, never leaks and chucks vapr and Flavor. Others would be a Smoevesto or Goblin now your juming into something your not ready for I believe at this point.
Batteries--to me its simple......SONY VTC4'S OR 5'S//SAMSUNG 25R'S //OR LG HG2'S---PERIOD!!!

NOW BUY SOME JUICE YOU LIKE AND QUITE SMOKING---VAPE ON MY FRIEND

 

[Lex S]

A Provari is a Provari, forever. They got a bit behind in the power race, but it's still a quality product.

Pioneer4you is a cheap Chinese make. There will be as many failures as other most other Chinese mods, but many more than Innokin, according to Vendors in the UK.
If I needed a mod tomorrow, I would buy one, happily (an IPV) with the expectation of it not lasting very long.
I bought an eVic mini yesterday, I bought one with the expectation of it not lasting very long.

We're just having some fun here (UK) before the zombie apocalypse in 5 months. Then, it'll be DIY liquid, rebuildable tanks and mechanical mods (maybe).
I actually expect mods to be around regardless since their is no wording to regulate the power supply for an e-cig, just new laws regarding liquid and tanks.

I'm leaning toward a eVic vtc mini too. mainly because of I found atomizers cost more then I thought,a kayfun v4 at the website i'm using cost about 140 USD, and HST here is 14%.I guess im just a little uncomfortable committing over 300 USD to something I have even try once(vaping).And I can't find any explore case though Google.so I guess provari have to wait for later upgrade .thank you for taking the time to reply ~

 

[Lex S]

Hi there.....I was a smoker for 33 yrs and now a vaper of 7+ years.....1st off congratulations on your decision to vape rather than smoke and also thinking of safety, proper product purchases, and longevity in vaping. With that safety should never change...always maintain the best standard feasible within your budget without compromise. Longevity into vaping begins with a product that works efficiently and easily to replace the craving and muscle memory involved in cigarette smoking. Therefore proper product purchases in the beginning is essential to longevity in vaping ( if the products no good you will buy cigarettes to replace your mod and vaping experience). Sooooo where to begin is the real question and ''stalkster'' above did hit a few valid points. I am going to write this note plainly so as not to overload you--my hopes is for you to quite smoking. Here it goes...
Mods--Ultimately down the road you will purchase a mod of 40-75 watts.Reasoning is as you vape longer and gain experience you will find a ''sweet spot'' that you prefer. That sweet spot may be the type of wire used-Kanthal/Nichol/Titanium/Stainless steel 304 or 316L. Each wire has a different flavor ( yes -a cooler vape or a faster ramp time etc..maybe you prefer a dripper or not) But...that mod must be capable to handle whatever wire you want also produce the warmth to the vapor you desire at a price you can afford with safety paramount.Also that mod must fit your personnel characteristic needs such as ( do you want something stealthy to hide in your pocket at work or do you want longevity in battery life to last a coupke of days). The products are there but which one????
Provari---an extremely well made work horse in the vaping community with safety at its highest standard in every step of development. I still use my 2 provaries to this day-they just wont die. But they are vv/ vw mods and a Kanthal wire mod. So you are limited by temp control and other types of wire.
Joytech evic VTC mini---An upgradeable mod (go to Joytech.com) a a free upgrade to 75 watts and stainless steel usage is is availabe. Outof the box its 60 watts and handles titanium/nichol/kanthal. I purchased mine for $36 and its worth more when compared to many others.
Wismec Relleaux RX200--3 Battery mod but fits nicely in the hand no stealth here. Yet is TC and will handle all wires and also can push up to 200 watts. I purchased mine through ''Gearbest '' for $48 and find it to be oustanding. Its also upgradable via usb port just like the Joytech
You dont have to spend $150 on a quality mod in todays market...if you do save $75 more and jump to a Clouper Mod--as they advertise it the last mod you will ever buy. Fully upgradeable...adjustable...and can be rebuilt by the user. I own one was it worth it---no!!! I prefer the SX mini and Wismec !!!
ATOMIZERS---to quite smoking I'm only going to suggest 2 for now. In the beginning to make/build a coil without a cigarette is going to piss you off. SO...what do you smoke while building this coil??? A cigarette. Hey in the beginning buy an ASPIRE TRITON...yes you will have a go to atomizer every day and the coil will last a week easily. This way you will never run out of vape time and can adjust it to your liking plus play with different wire types and wattage settings to find ''YOUR SWEET SPOT''.
A Rebuildable....its not a pretty one but I own them all...its a ''FLASH E VAPOR'' for your 1ST rebuildable. This product is well respected as a staple atomizer in the UK. Easy to build a coil on with tons of room. I use STAINLESS Steel mesh for my 2 wicks and either Titanium or 316L SS wire for coils. Easy to wick, never leaks and chucks vapr and Flavor. Others would be a Smoevesto or Goblin now your juming into something your not ready for I believe at this point.
Batteries--to me its simple......SONY VTC4'S OR 5'S//SAMSUNG 25R'S //OR LG HG2'S---PERIOD!!!

NOW BUY SOME JUICE YOU LIKE AND QUITE SMOKING---VAPE ON MY FRIEND

Wow this is so nice,thank you so much for taking the time to to reply.I need some time to digest all these.Thank you.

 

[djsvapour]

I'm leaning toward a eVic vtc mini too. mainly because of I found atomizers cost more then I thought,a kayfun v4 at the website i'm using cost about 140 USD, and HST here is 14%.I guess im just a little uncomfortable committing over 300 USD to something I have even try once(vaping).And I can't find any explore case though Google.so I guess provari have to wait for later upgrade .thank you for taking the time to reply ~

Can you not sneak in a rebuildable atomizer under the radar?

Somebody could post you a $15 (US) Kayfun clone from China?

I am really excited about the eVic mini VT. The shop offered me some Joyetech atomizers in the package (drop down menu) and I said NO.

 

[steven 69]

hello there . i have several i sticks from eleaf. aspire nautilus tanks are great tanks . vaping can be a learning curve for some. patients lots of patients . from devices to tanks to even flavors you pick. happy vaping

 

[Hotwire]

For a beginner I'd recommend having the following

1. a 900mah ego battery and some standard EVOD tanks and some low VG non premium liquids, higher nicotine.

2. A cool fire 4 or I stick 30W, basically a good well made device that can fire at least up to 30 Watts and the following tanks to use on it

3. A Nautilus / Nautilus Mini tank to use at around 15 watts with basic or premium liquids that are no higher than 50Vg 50Pg and not dark in colour. A third less than your nic level for the EVOD.

4. A sub ohm tank (I like the subtank nano by Kanger) with a .5ohm coild and some premium 50/50 or higher VG liquids to go with it to fire at around 25 - 30 watts, wouldn't go higher than 6mg nicotine.

That's what gets me by and keeps me good as sometimes you get bored of one set up or flavour and if you do not have another that provides a slightly different experience to go straight to, you can sometimes give in to the old craving....

always best - at least for me - also to have at least 3 different flavoured liquids on the go so not get bored and not have to spend hassle cleaning and drying tanks and coils for refilling and using new flavours... This way each fill of my 3 tanks (EVOD, Subtank Nano, Nautilus Mini) lasts a lot longer and also I just fill it up with same liquid that I have found suits it, so less cleaning and drying etc...

Good luck

 

[suprtrkr]

For beginners, I recommend either the Kanger Subox kit (no temp control, removable batteries), the Evic VT (fixed battery) or VTC (removable) kit, or an iStick 30 or 40TC and an aspire Nautilus tank. The Provari 2.5 is head and shoulders better quality. The price has gone down because it's an old model. Be aware all of the other ones I recommended are about twice as powerful. There are a lot of people who like to vape in the 10-15 watt range; for them the Provari is as good as it gets. If you want more power-- a thing you don't yet know-- then you'll have to pay for a Provari Radius. I suggest you get one of the above kits to find out where you want to vape. Then upgrade into the Provari line in whichever model is appropriate when you know where you want to go. Safety is more about the user than the equipment. Everything I recommended is a regulated mod, where the electronics are designed to keep you safe. Stay away from mechanicals until you know what you're doing, then all you need to worry about is battery charging safety.

 

[VNeil]

The Provari 2.5 available for around $79 are closeouts. They disappear when the stock is sold. They have been replaced with the Classic. I have bought 3, including a Titanium model which recently disappeared from their offerings, presumably forever. I thought they were a good buy after using s pair of P2.5's for over a year.

 

[Hotwire]

Cool Fire 4 for build quality beats all the others mentioned - sub box, I stick, e-vic. I looked at them all, handled them all and the CF4 was much sturdier and simplistic in design (that's a good thing.) Not sure about provari, so can't say... Of course the CF4 has internal batteries so will die one day but meh at £40if I get a year I'll be happy, I've had an EGO 650mah since early 2013 that is still going strong so....

 

[jaba62]

I have a coolfire 4, very impressed with the quality. Nice threads, solid device, no jiggle in the fire button. Definitely will buy another. paired great with my nautilus!

 

[Muru]

I think, when you're just starting vaping to get off smokes, buy a simple set-up and see if it works for you. Millions of people are able to quit with a $20 ego with Ce4. Going off into building coils, mixing juice, temp control, etc is more about the hobby-aspect and less about quitting smoking. This hobby-aspect can be quite complicating and might not appeal to everybody. Modern beginner set-ups:
-I-stick30 with nautilus
- Innokin endura kit
- Subvod kit
-coolfire IV with (example) aspire K-1, eleaf Gs air, kanger protank/aerotank

Older set-ups, but still great:
- evod/evod glass/evod2 kit
-justfog 1453 kit

Which one you should buy is a matter of personal preference. Find some YouTube reviews of the tanks and batteries mentioned to discover what's important to you