New member here, although I have been reading ECF for months now. I finally decided to post something! I was wondering if anyone can point me into the right direction. I was hoping to replace the filler in a cartomizer with some SS wool. Any info on which cartomizers to use and how to disassemble them would be great. Thanks again
Hi All! First Post/ info on SS wool as filler in a carto.
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I think you might have to get your posts up in here first, but there is a modders forum where I'm sure you can get answers.
Just curious, what does SS wool do in a carto the regular filler doesn't? faster wicking around coil perhaps?
There is a plastic filler material in cartomizers that can burn/melt if overheated, I assume that the OP is looking to avoid that.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...us-510-kr808-4081-etc-filler-type-cartos.html
I personally avoid cartomizers to avoid the burning plastic issue altogether
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The main problem is getting filler out/put ss wool without damage to the coil.
Ive been taking cartos filler to put on ego carts for a rebuildable im using but i always end braking the coil ; now im doing without actual care for it so i guess there should be a way to do so without causing harm
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Ive been taking cartos filler to put on ego carts for a rebuildable im using but i always end braking the coil ; now im doing without actual care for it so i guess there should be a way to do so without causing harm
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Stainless steel wool filling is not a bad idea but I see some red flags here.
-Mentioned before: SS is a very good conductor of electricity.
-SS is an alloy of steel. It includes other metallic elements including nickel, chromium and manganese. Depending on grade other elements can be used. A fine SS wool would vastly increase the surface area of SS subject to oxidation. Yes, stainless steel does oxidize but at a much slower rate than high carbon steel.
-Unless very carefully produced SS wool could contain small particles that could enter the airway and lungs.
-Mentioned before: SS is a very good conductor of electricity.
-SS is an alloy of steel. It includes other metallic elements including nickel, chromium and manganese. Depending on grade other elements can be used. A fine SS wool would vastly increase the surface area of SS subject to oxidation. Yes, stainless steel does oxidize but at a much slower rate than high carbon steel.
-Unless very carefully produced SS wool could contain small particles that could enter the airway and lungs.
I have been reading about genesis atomizers, the use of a stainless wick is intriguing but is the chromium in stainless safe? I know that a particular oxide of chromium, hexavalent chromium, is a nasty carcinogen,
"Chronic inhalation of hexavalent chromium compounds increases risk of lung cancer (lungs are especially vulnerable,)"
Hexavalent chromium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
chromium is 10 to 30 % of stainless steel, what the actual inhaled load from a stainless wick would be and what kind load is harmful I don't know, as a filler material in a silica wicked carto I don't think you would be inhaling much if any. silica wicks have issues also.
"Chromium hexavalent (Cr(VI)) compounds, often called hexavalent chromium, exist in several forms. Industrial uses of hexavalent chromium compounds include chromate pigments in dyes, paints, inks, and plastics; chromates added as anticorrosive agents to paints, primers, and other surface coatings; and chromic acid electroplated onto metal parts to provide a decorative or protective coating. Hexavalent chromium can also be formed when performing "hot work" such as welding on stainless steel or melting chromium metal. In these situations the chromium is not originally hexavalent, but the high temperatures involved in the process result in oxidation that converts the chromium to a hexavalent state."
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/hexavalentchromium/index.html
so how hot does stainless new to be to form Chromium hexavalent?
"Chronic inhalation of hexavalent chromium compounds increases risk of lung cancer (lungs are especially vulnerable,)"
Hexavalent chromium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
chromium is 10 to 30 % of stainless steel, what the actual inhaled load from a stainless wick would be and what kind load is harmful I don't know, as a filler material in a silica wicked carto I don't think you would be inhaling much if any. silica wicks have issues also.
"Chromium hexavalent (Cr(VI)) compounds, often called hexavalent chromium, exist in several forms. Industrial uses of hexavalent chromium compounds include chromate pigments in dyes, paints, inks, and plastics; chromates added as anticorrosive agents to paints, primers, and other surface coatings; and chromic acid electroplated onto metal parts to provide a decorative or protective coating. Hexavalent chromium can also be formed when performing "hot work" such as welding on stainless steel or melting chromium metal. In these situations the chromium is not originally hexavalent, but the high temperatures involved in the process result in oxidation that converts the chromium to a hexavalent state."
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/hexavalentchromium/index.html
so how hot does stainless new to be to form Chromium hexavalent?
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Hi all thanks for the reply's! It looks like it has been done before from http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/232081-just-stainless-steel-wick-filler.html . I was just seeing if there was any info on how to do it. I love carto tanks, but hate the taste from the filler that the carto gives off. I was hoping this could be the best of both worlds. I have been doing a good amount of research on setting up my Bulli A2TM with an SS wick and intend to do so as soon as my SS mesh arrives. From what I have read the flavor from SS in unmatchable, but then taste is very subjective. I know that SS is conductive so I figured it would have to be oxidized before it could be used. The SS wick most defiantly has to or else it will cause problems. I am not sure about health concerns, but it seems it would have to get pretty hot to inhale the chromium hexavalent.
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I would think so also but i really don't know at what temperature hexavalent chromium is produced,
There are four other oxides of chromium that are not bad for you or at least not as bad for you as hexavalent, what conditions produce each oxide I do not know.
Part of the process of making a stainless wick is repeatedly heating it to cherry red, oxidizing it, is this hot enough to produce hexavalent? again I really do not know, I was hoping someone else would.
I know the non steel ones you can wiggle off the base giving you access to the filler and coil without damaging. some people like to take them apart and rinse the filler to get the burnt/ black stuff off. There are also reports of the blue foam mod, people replacing the filler with an aquatic "blue foam" to help improve taste.
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