Hi everyone...

[DrownedGod]

It seems I'd made an account here over a year ago but for whatever reason, forgot to post, lol. I guess realistically this means I'm new here .

Came across this forum again when I had a question. I should probably ask that on a more relevant subforum.

Just wanted to drop in and say hi . I successfully quit pack-a-day smoking in 2015 after switching to a good vape. Been vaping since 2010 though, and I've been a huge fan of it since then.

EDIT: I'll post my question here anyway jic:

So I can't seem to figure out the specific chemistry of the 20700 batteries I received with my vape (these: IJOY 20700 BATTERY). I'd like to be able to use my existing Xtar VC4 charger for them. Unfortunately that product page only mentions that it's "Li-Ni", which could be several different chemistries that use nickel. The only indication I got was from another website that mentioned it was NCR. I sort of doubt this though, since I'm not sure if an NCR battery of this size is actually capable of a constant drain at 40A. Anyone have any insight into this?

 

[BrotherBob]

So I can't seem to figure out the specific chemistry of the 20700 batteries I received with my vape (these: IJOY 20700 BATTERY). I'd like to be able to use my existing Xtar VC4 charger for them. Unfortunately that product page only mentions that it's "Li-Ni", which could be several different chemistries that use nickel. The only indication I got was from another website that mentioned it was NCR. I sort of doubt this though, since I'm not sure if an NCR battery of this size is actually capable of a constant drain at 40A. Anyone have any insight into this?

Welcome and glad you joined.
Batteries are not my passion. Might send a PM to @Baditude ,might be able to help/answer.

 

[stols001]

Hi , Welcome to ECF and congratulations on switching to vaping. Most chargers will list on the back what exact types of batteries they can charge. I was surprised my nitecore intellecharger 2 bay was happy to charge 27- series batteries. If you can't find the information there, you could go to the manufacturer's page to see the specs and what batteries it will accept, etc.

Best of luck and welcome to "visibility" hope you enjoy it

Anna

 

[Baditude]

So I can't seem to figure out the specific chemistry of the 20700 batteries I received with my vape (these: IJOY 20700 BATTERY). I'd like to be able to use my existing Xtar VC4 charger for them. Unfortunately that product page only mentions that it's "Li-Ni", which could be several different chemistries that use nickel. The only indication I got was from another website that mentioned it was NCR. I sort of doubt this though, since I'm not sure if an NCR battery of this size is actually capable of a constant drain at 40A. Anyone have any insight into this?

• iJoy 40A 3000mAh 20700 Bench Test Results...overrated but a good 30A battery

Battery Mooch has said that too often we put too much emphysis on the specific battery chemistry of lithium batteries. Often the manufacturers themselves advertise the wrong chemistry for their batteries. The generic term for lithium batteries nowadays seems to be just "IMR", even though technically that's not the case at all. Confusing? You bet it is.

What you need to know is that a battery is Li-ion (lithium ion), unprotected, and "high drain" (high amperage). This means it falls into the class of a high amp battery which is what we generally need for vaping. "High capacity" means it has a higher mAh but not necessarily high enough amps for vaping, typically used for products such as a flashlight. Seeing that a battery is "protected" is a good clue that it should not be used for vaping.



I hope that answered your question.

 

[MJCSD]

Hello and welcome to ecf

 

[DrownedGod]

Thanks for the quick responses everyone. Nice to meet you guys and I'm glad I decided to join .

What you need to know is that a battery is Li-ion (lithium ion), unprotected, and "high drain" (high amperage). This means it falls into the class of a high amp battery which is what we generally need for vaping. "High capacity" means it has a higher mAh but not necessarily high enough amps for vaping, typically used for products such as a flashlight. Seeing that a battery is "protected" is a good clue that it should not be used for vaping.

Those are some good guidelines man! Clearly not as much as you but I'm a bit of a battery guru myself lol; I just don't like it when there's barely any technical info available on batteries I use. Also thank you for the clarification on those 3-letter notations ending in "R"! I was aware of lithium chemistries since way before I came across the claim that those model numbers denote them. Good to know they're not reliable indicators at all. I seem to have more or less answered my own question about a day after posting this but your input really cleared up my confusion on that terminology. Since the most popular types for vaping are considered to be the chemistries ideally falling under "IMR", considering how they're capable of too high a discharge to be classified as NCA, the fact that they're shown to contain nickel combined with a high discharge rating means that they're more than likely NMC. That narrows it down enough for me. I reviewed their charging specifications and thankfully they matched up with my charger. Gave it a test-run and they were topped up nicely.

Thanks again!

 

[rollersk4te]

Hi! I'm glad you got your question answered! Welcome to ECF!