Hi i'm new in here and would like help for mech mod

[ShapeNvape]

Hello guys!

I'm really considering getting a mech mod.
I like simple metal finish like gold,copper etc. not that important.

Firing button doesnt matter where it is placed.

But i like a mod that is well made and quality.

Is it worth going for a hybrid like tugboat v2?

I would like suggestions for both hybrid and normal mech mods.

IMPORTANT
it have to be a tube mod

Price range from 0-250$

And thanks forward for all the nice suggestions that might come

 

[Brkdnc]

Stay away from the hybrid mods with the wrong tank they are dangerous. First one I started with was a Nemesis clone still going strong and now I have 3 of them.

And Welcome to the forum

 

[KentA]

I've grown to appreciate those from Greece, especially GP Paps, Gus, & Poldiac.

Tube mods made in the Philippines are also of the highest quality. I have a Signum Mod by Kontrabida Kustoms & a Smok-E Mountain, & they are among the best of the best.

For some reason, these two small nations have found their niche.

 

[edyle]

Hello guys!

I'm really considering getting a mech mod.
I like simple metal finish like gold,copper etc. not that important.

Firing button doesnt matter where it is placed.

But i like a mod that is well made and quality.

Is it worth going for a hybrid like tugboat v2?

I would like suggestions for both hybrid and normal mech mods.

IMPORTANT
it have to be a tube mod

Price range from 0-250$

And thanks forward for all the nice suggestions that might come

the tugboat v2 and other such mods like the smpl, aka fakebrids, are mods with a 510 thread but no centerpin.
They are dangerous to use if you don't know what is going on;.

I'd recommend a King.

 

[ShapeNvape]

Thanks for the suggestion.

Serious why is there so many vapeheads that acts with this ignorance, it is dangerous.

I had Chemistry and Physics at high levels, i've done experiments that could potential go way more wrong than a couple of 18650 batteries can do.

instead of doing these assumptions, its fine to ask if i know and then teach me about it. But every forum people are like stay away from it, such danger.

i'm new at this forum, not new at the game of vaping, coils, batteries and such stuff.

I would like to know if having the atomizer to the batteri, really makes up for the voltage drop, that mechanical mods is known to have.

 

[suprtrkr]

Stay away from faux hybrid mods. Those are the ones with a 510 connector where the atomizer makes direct battery contact. They're dangerous. It's too easy to get a hard short at the battery top. If you want to use the 510 connector, get a mod that has a 510 center pin. Here's a photo of the two top caps that come with a Wotofo Phantom mod. The cap you want is on the left:

Here's a photo set for a true hybrid mod. You can see the atty has a thread for the tube, not a 510, or not in use. The set is a Fakir's Mods FX22 mod and a Troy2 dripper. Both will work as 510, or in true hybrid mode by removing the top cap of the mod and the 510 adapter from the atty:

I really like the Wotofo Phantom in a low priced authentic. The 510 battery rattle adjustment could be more robust, but it's doggone hard to beat the $30 price tag. The Council of Vapor Kindred V1.5 is an excellent choice usually priced just under $100. If you can find one-- they're currently on production hiatus due to Greece's economic probs-- a Poldiac or a Nanos from Metal Madness Vapors is the bomb. I have one of each and they're just terrific. That Fakir's in the photo set is one of my favorites; they're in Ankara, Turkey. I bought the mod, atty and a spare 18350 tube for $190 shipped. However, it came across the Atlantic in a rowboat and took 2 months to get here. If I did it again, I'd pay for air shipping. As said above, it's doggone hard to beat a $15 clone Nemesis from Fasttech. I have 3 of them. They're hard hitting and an excellent beginners mod for anybody to see if they like mechs before throwing huge bucks at it.

I do not have a G-Paps, but one of these days... A Caravella from Pedro is super if you are made of money. I personally don't care for the Gus mods because I don't want the fuse in the button, but they are excellent pieces of gear.

EDIT: A Rig V2/Roughneck combo is also on my list. I wouldn't use the Rig mod alone as it is a faux hybrid, but the Roughneck is a true hybrid atty to fit it. US made, total about $250.

 

[edyle]

I would like to know if having the atomizer to the batteri, really makes up for the voltage drop, that mechanical mods is known to have.

It's much more effective to just bump the voltage up; that's why there are vv/vw/vt regulated mods.

The big pluses for mechanical mods are
simplicity
durability
cost

 

[SeniorBoy]

@ShapeNvape - Welcome to ECF and best of luck with your vaping journey.

Respectfully, double ditton on staying away from those not the real deal hybrid mechanicals. Please don't take the following thoughts the wrong way as myself and others are here to help you. Mechanicals are an advanced non regulated device which requires knowledge about batteries, safety, builds, meters, and proper use. They are not really suited for a first time mod for a beginner. Of course, I could be all wet since you may have been vaping for years but I can't tell this from your post.

The "switch/fire button" is super super important. Does it lock and how hard or easy is this? What is the through? What is the pressure required? Can you safely stand the mechanical up without locking it? These are just some of the considerations and my other goal in this post is that I don't want to read about YOU in the news. Respectfully, a quality regulated tube mode like the ProVape P3 would be better suited for you but that's only my opinion.

OK. You insist. Not to worry. I use a GP PAPS version 4 A thing of beauty produced via limited runs and the owner is also on ECF. Immaculate construction and super high tolerances. Hits like a truck, the switch/fire button is divine. Understated. Uses what they call a GPin which means no adjustments required with different toppers and or different batteries. Well serviced and supported. I'm sure others have their favs as well and hopefully they will chime in. Note this picture of their GP Heron V2 tank on this page. That's a real deal "pineless" tank. You remove the 510 and screw this gem onto your PAPS.

EDIT: While I was typing slowly /lol I see lots of responses and your vaping history. That's a good thing so ignore my thoughts about the P3 please.

Good luck

 

[Chips177]

There are plenty of tube mods with minimal voltage drop that aren't hybrid. My two favorites are the brass knurled King v2 and Stingray X. I have clones of both and are great.

Off the top of my head, I believe the Stingray has a .1v drop and the King has a .14v drop each with a 1Ω coil. In other words, you won't notice the drop.

Plus, the Stingray X comes with an optional hybrid cap.

 

[Vaslovik]

With a mech you will be committing to becoming a good atty builder, and also to learning battery safety. I would strongly advise against using any battery with "fire" in it's name. Consult Baditude's blog on here about battery safety. Also, you need to make sure you don't vape your battery to death. You will want a battery voltage checker.

With a mech your control is in how you do your build on your atty. You will want a means to check the resistance of your build, either a DMM or a 510 ohms meter. As for what mech to get that's a big question, as there is a whole world of them out there, but after 3 years with a plethora of clone mechs I arrived at authentic Poldiacs and settled on 4 of them. They are not made anymore, sadly, but you can still find them around if you dig. There are many other excellent mechs out there I've yet to use, and others can point you to those.

Also be mindful of mech maintenance. Keep your threads clean, and know how to take that switch apart and clean it well, and also consider that with a bottom button mech, you have lock that button before you set it down or it will fire, unless you took measures in the switch to prevent that. I personally much prefer top/side button mechs for that reason, but to each his/her own.

 

[ShapeNvape]

Seniorboy? You dont recommend mechanical mod for first time? There have to be a first time with mechanical mod. I had a Siglei with 100w,wismec rx200, dna200 mod, and i was looking for a tube mod, that can put more out than a little ....ty iStick mini or what their name is. And i like the simplicity of a Mechanical mod.
Having me in the news? Why this arrogance by you thinking that you are way more competent with electrical gear than me. Didnt you survive having a mechanical mod, didnt thousands survived it? Instead of being a douche and telling it is dangerous! Then why you got one? Because you think you're the albert einstein v.2 and my intelligence equals a rock?

Maybe, just maybe. You should tell me about what experince you got that might help me, that you think would have helped you.

Im from Denmark, and i reached out for a more international forum, because i truly believed that people, just was some dicks in Denmark.

But it seems people who lack intelligence and personal/social skills, buy a mech mod and being a douche on every forum on the internet.

I might buy a mech mod and try it out myself, but i think i need a label"No douche"

 

[Vaslovik]

Seniorboy? You dont recommend mechanical mod for first time? There have to be a first time with mechanical mod.

I believe he's just trying to caution you about the potential dangers, being that it's quite possible to have bad things happen if you don't go about it right. We see such stories in the news from time to time, about those who built super-low ohm on mechs, with the wrong batteries, or did hybrids very wrong, and ended up with a pipe bomb. The haters just love this kind of ammunition against us.

None of this is to say you aren't competent to use a mech. I was using a mech and genny 3 weeks into vaping. Just be sure you know what you are getting into, and how to safely get the most out of your mech.

 

[SeniorBoy]

Seniorboy? You dont recommend mechanical mod for first time? There have to be a first time with mechanical mod. I had a Siglei with 100w,wismec rx200, dna200 mod, and i was looking for a tube mod, that can put more out than a little ....ty iStick mini or what their name is. And i like the simplicity of a Mechanical mod.
Having me in the news? Why this arrogance by you thinking that you are way more competent with electrical gear than me. Didnt you survive having a mechanical mod, didnt thousands survived it? Instead of being a douche and telling it is dangerous! Then why you got one? Because you think you're the albert einstein v.2 and my intelligence equals a rock?

Maybe, just maybe. You should tell me about what experince you got that might help me, that you think would have helped you.

Im from Denmark, and i reached out for a more international forum, because i truly believed that people, just was some dicks in Denmark.

But it seems people who lack intelligence and personal/social skills, buy a mech mod and being a douche on every forum on the internet.

I might buy a mech mod and try it out myself, but i think i need a label"No douche"

YIKES. Lets please please pause for a moment. Did you see the EDIT in my previous post? I type slowly /lol and from your first post I had no clue about your vaping history. Later in the thread you told us about your vaping history and I indicated such in my Edit. To be clear, YOU will be fine with a mech and have some fantastic advice in this thread. I'm quite sure of that. This is just me but for others purchasing their first Mod with no previous experience then I'm sorry but they should NOT get a mechanical. Period.

I hope this clarifies the issue.

Good luck!

 

[Cacique]

You could also let everyone know of your building and battery safety and ask for help on what else you need. You just joined today and everyone is going by that, we have no knowledge of your vaping knowledge, so the advice you get is as if you are brand new. No one is trying to be insulting, just going by what we know. You can also do a search and find a bunch of info on here.

 

[KentA]

Seniorboy? You dont recommend mechanical mod for first time? There have to be a first time with mechanical mod. I had a Siglei with 100w,wismec rx200, dna200 mod, and i was looking for a tube mod, that can put more out than a little ....ty iStick mini or what their name is. And i like the simplicity of a Mechanical mod.
Having me in the news? Why this arrogance by you thinking that you are way more competent with electrical gear than me. Didnt you survive having a mechanical mod, didnt thousands survived it? Instead of being a douche and telling it is dangerous! Then why you got one? Because you think you're the albert einstein v.2 and my intelligence equals a rock?

Maybe, just maybe. You should tell me about what experince you got that might help me, that you think would have helped you.

Im from Denmark, and i reached out for a more international forum, because i truly believed that people, just was some dicks in Denmark.

But it seems people who lack intelligence and personal/social skills, buy a mech mod and being a douche on every forum on the internet.

I might buy a mech mod and try it out myself, but i think i need a label"No douche"

Hey New Dude from Denmark,

You asked for advice on moving into unregulated mods & mentioned the fake hybrid Tugboat. The consensus here is that they are dangerous.

Seniorboy was only answering your question with words like "Respectfully" & "Please don't take the following thoughts the wrong way as myself and others are here to help you."

 

[Light Seeker]

A douche is a new forum member with all of 3 posts asking about advanced mods, receiving excellent & thoughtful replies, then criticizing those that attempted to help.

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[ShapeNvape]

If you are in doubt of my history or my skills please ask about it before making an assumption, which i felt Seniorboy dif with the news thing.

I'm sorry, but im just getting sick of this treatment, that people don't thibk you can handle a mech mod, unless you are a experinced user of mech mods.

I asked about the Tugboat because i could'nt see how it is build on the pictures and i generally thought i looked fine with the top cap that fits it.

And i think i have showed how grateful i was for the good informing posts.

 

[ShapeNvape]

What do you mean about the tugboat is a fakebride? That it is only made for the one with the pin out, and not the normal 510 connection?

 

[Cacique]

They're called fake hybrids because they're not true hybrids. Hybrids have a dedicated atomizer and are not 510 threaded. The tug boat is more accurately described as a direct to battery mod. The danger here lies in that you need an atomizer with a protruding pin or you could cause a short. I used a SMPL for a short time and throughout the time, my Mutation X's pin was getting pushed up and lose, something that could have cause a problem if I hadn't stopped using it.

 

[KentA]

What do you mean about the tugboat is a fakebride? That it is only made for the one with the pin out, and not the normal 510 connection?

Sorry, but I fear answering & being called a douche.
Apparently you're smarter than me because you have had "Chemistry and Physics at high levels."