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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bombastinator" data-source="post: 23654303" data-attributes="member: 43994">There are two reasons generally that people switch to vaping from smoking.1. They don’t want to die from it2. They want to spend less moneyYou can do both. Vaping isn’t harmless, but afaik is massive harm reduction vs. cigarettes.  The highest number I’ve heard is 1000x safer, the lowest is 100x.  That’s still not zero, so it’s worse than simply quitting, but it’s a lot safer than cigarettes.Before taxes/fees/etc.. cigarettes in the US in 2010 were something like 65¢ a pack.  All the rest is the other stuff.  With vaping you get to avoid some (but not all) of the other stuff.  Vaping is therefore often vastly cheaper long term than smoking is even if you buy higher end gear.  As things get more complicated they tend to get less expensive in the long term but more expensive in the short term.   (Upfront vs continuing cost) RTAs and RBAs have very low continuing cost, but higher upfront cost and are more complicated. More like pipe smoking than cigarette smoking that way.  There are levels.All the vapes use more or less the same technology, but the packaging is different.At the lowest level with low upfront cost but really high continuing cos are the disposables.For these over usa$100/mo is common. (Cigarettes are well over that)Then there are pod systems.  These are essentially proprietary CTAs where not only the coil is disposable, but so is the tank.  They are made generally from at least partially plastic.  They are often multiple times the continuing cost of an RTA. These are refillable, and juice is separate.  You can usually refill them for several days before you need to change a pod (though some people will do it for a month, which is a problem) After that are CTAs. cartridge tank atomizers.These have the cotton and the coil set into a cartridge which is proprietary and disposable.  They have a much lower continuing cost than pods, but are still several times that of RTAs or RBAs.  These are tha most common, though they didn’t used to be.  I have several I’ve never even used.  This is because the mod (the part I wanted) was unavailable WITHOUT a cta.  They are pushed that hard.  The main difference between these and pod systems is the connection to the power source is a 510 connection and is non-proprietary, though the coils themselves still are.  They have the disadvantage that you can’t tell how dirty the coil or wick is, so it’s easy to massively overuse a cta cartridge.At the bottom are the RTAs and RBAs.  With them the wick and the coil are separate and not a cartridge. Neither the coil nor the wick are made of proprietary material, so they get much cheaper quickly.  The purchace price goes up again though.  Kits costing  USA$60 or more is common.  I’ve seen $400 (though it was a bit insane)  one would still eventually save money with such a thing though.  It is a question of how much faff you are willing to deal with, and how long you do it for.  Because they wick and coil are seperate, you can tell if the cotton or wick is dirty, and you can clean rather than throw away the coil, so it gets very cheap very fast.  A wick is maybe 1/3rd of an organic cotton ball. So a few cents.  If that.  Rewicking every day becomes a trivial cost.Me I went low cost hardcore.   I use squonk RBAs and also make my own juice and do that cheap too. My current cost is in the USA$ 25-30/mo range.  Rather than many times that</blockquote>

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