Homemade syringe tank mod, looks easy!

[Iffy]

Since I've had no flooding using my tri-punch method, I'm puzzled as to why others are having flooding issues. Maybe we need to state the cartos we're using.

I'm using E-Vapes-Kits 510 1.5Ω stainless dual coil cartos. I've used both the Dremel tri-slots and the saddle strap tri-holes. Within the syringe tank, they are terrific.

I did have one flooding experience due to the top plunger plug not being completely sealed. So I would disassemble the tank, clean all parts, reassemble and test.

As to the non-feeding issue, are you sure the filler is saturated?

Another note, during normal awesome operation, the top of my filler is white. But, I have no feed issues as long as there is joose in the tank.

Feedback...?

 

[wizard10000]

Since I've had no flooding using my tri-punch method, I'm puzzled as to why others are having flooding issues. Maybe we need to state the cartos we're using...

I think that's a grand idea, Iffy.

CCV got shorted on their shipment of stainless resurrectors so I'm using 2.5Ω Smoktech XL cartos out of the parts box. I hope to have the resurrectors by the end of the week - but mine flooded when I sat it down for the night and never recovered from that. Once it flooded it continued to flood.

Made a new tank because I figured it was leaking air from being punctured with a needle but the new tank with the same slotted carto also flooded. The slot was probably a third of the way around the carto or maybe a little more - it was a big slot. Same carto with a single hole punched with a finishing nail didn't flood.

 

[Uma]

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[wyojoe]

I think that's a grand idea, Iffy.

CCV got shorted on their shipment of stainless resurrectors so I'm using 2.5Ω Smoktech XL cartos out of the parts box. I hope to have the resurrectors by the end of the week - but mine flooded when I sat it down for the night and never recovered from that. Once it flooded it continued to flood.

Made a new tank because I figured it was leaking air from being punctured with a needle but the new tank with the same slotted carto also flooded. The slot was probably a third of the way around the carto or maybe a little more - it was a big slot. Same carto with a single hole punched with a finishing nail didn't flood.

Thats the same experience I had. With the long slot it flooded, with the punched hole, using a Deck screw or saddle valve turned all the way in until it stops, it works great.

 

[wyojoe]

Since I've had no flooding using my tri-punch method, I'm puzzled as to why others are having flooding issues. Maybe we need to state the cartos we're using.

I'm using E-Vapes-Kits 510 1.5Ω stainless dual coil cartos. I've used both the Dremel tri-slots and the saddle strap tri-holes. Within the syringe tank, they are terrific.

I did have one flooding experience due to the top plunger plug not being completely sealed. So I would disassemble the tank, clean all parts, reassemble and test.

As to the non-feeding issue, are you sure the filler is saturated?

Another note, during normal awesome operation, the top of my filler is white. But, I have no feed issues as long as there is joose in the tank.

Feedback...?

Iffy, I use a 510 S.S. 1.5ohm carto I bought from Madvapes (don't know what brand for sure) and the one I like the best is the S.S. Resurrector 1.7ohm. With ONE hole punched with a saddle valve, all the way until the saddle valve stops it works great, if I use 2 holes it floods, so do you punch 3 very small holes?? and what is the reason you do that, and where do you put the holes. THANKS

 

[Iffy]

... so do you punch 3 very small holes?? and what is the reason you do that, and where do you put the holes. THANKS

No, I punch until the holes are 'all da way'. My warped reasoning for three holes is that regardless of the tank's normal orientation, there will be a feed hole available, even with a very low level in the tank. I have vaped tanks to the point that there was not a full drop left.

I punch the holes just above the bottom plunger plug and equidistant around the carto.

As to slots being a third of the circumference, that might be large enough to create a siphoning effect. Think of siphoning a gas tank... once a flow is established, it continues as long as the outlet is below the gas tank (sometimes gravity sucks). Just thinkin' out loud...

 

[JewelzBagz]

Another note, during normal awesome operation, the top of my filler is white. But, I have no feed issues as long as there is joose in the tank.

Feedback...?

Thanks for that info, it's good to know. I was freaked out because the top of my filler wasn't absorbing juice. Nice to know I don't have to worry about that now.

These are the cheapo cartos I used in my tank. I'm so impressed with how well it works in there I'll be making another today. Can't beat a buck a piece. They also have them in 808 if anyone was wondering. Though now you've all got me wondering about these resurrectors I keep reading about!

@JewelzBagz - Looks great! Glad it's working out for ya. I just hope that those faucet washers don't have a strong rubber smell as it could end up tainting your liquid. In which case it seems it wouldn't matter as much as it's not your favorite anyway. But it can put you off of the idea of the carto tank.

I have many varieties of washers. I went to habitat for humanity restore where you can pick up bags of washers for 10 cents a bag. I did this when I first started reading about homemade tanks on another thread. I just bought a ton of em in all shapes and sizes cause I had no clue what I was doing! Now that I am actually making these things I can see the difference in the types of rubber. The danco washers are a neoprene and are very similar in appearance to the plungers. Some of the other washers I got are kind of crumbly in texture. Like you could take crumbs out of em with your fingernail. I would never use those as it seems the eliquid would definitely absorb into the rubber-it seems porous. The neoprene does not seem porous at all. I don't know what I'll end up doing with the other rubber ones that I don't want to use. Got any thoughts on that?

Well off to try more tanks. And if I'm lucky, I may get to disassembling that puck I made that doesn't work and try to fix it.

 

[wyojoe]

No, I punch until the holes are 'all da way'. My warped reasoning for three holes is that regardless of the tank's normal orientation, there will be a feed hole available, even with a very low level in the tank. I have vaped tanks to the point that there was not a full drop left.

I punch the holes just above the bottom plunger plug and equidistant around the carto.

As to slots being a third of the circumference, that might be large enough to create a siphoning effect. Think of siphoning a gas tank... once a flow is established, it continues as long as the outlet is below the gas tank (sometimes gravity sucks). Just thinkin' out loud...

Thanks Iffy, for how you do it. When you say all the way are you talking about the saddle valve punched hole?? I did one with just 2 holes and it flooded, I could never get it to work like it should, so 3 holes is alot of surface area. Once I did the dremel slot also and made it to long and it flooded and by flooding I mean the wicking material is so wet it floods the coil, and it gurgles and the vapor production goes way down. I will try 2 holes again and see what happens, but I hate to ruin carto's. In my experience a small hole surface area, the carto burns from lack of wicking, and with to big a hole and surface area it floods. In one of your latest posts you said the top of the carto was white and never moist, When mine is working good, they are dry on top too. If they ever look moist they start to flood. Just a note: I have found if they do get moist and flood to use a tissue and wad it into the top of the carto, with the wicking hole/holes away from the fluid and the tissue will wick out the excess. Hope this makes sense.LOL

 

[Iffy]

When you say all the way are you talking about the saddle valve punched hole?

The carto holes match the max diameter of the piercing awl.

Hope this makes sense.LOL

What you did makes sense, but the results are what is really puzzling me! I've read in this thread "one small hole", "a couple of holes", "tri-slots/tri-holes" (wonder where those came from...

), "two holes at the bottom and another half way up", etc. So those with flooding/burnt issues are wonderin' in da wilderness. I sure wish I had an answer!

In my mind, flooding is due to over fill and/or an air leak. Burning is due to dry coils. The only other factor I can think of is bad cartos.

wyojoe, in order to delve into this 'mystery' further, I'm willing to send you one of my operational tanks (cleaned, of course) and let you evaluate it on your set up. PM me if you're interested.

 

[TinyTimberGal]

I still have the problem with the cartos not wicking (along with a few others I see). I've tried the fixes that were suggested so I'm still at a loss as to why. I don't have time to mess with them during the workweek, so I'll try again this weekend. Wish me luck.

 

[aziffel]

The carto holes match the max diameter of the piercing awl.



What you did makes sense, but the results are what is really puzzling me! I've read in this thread "one small hole", "a couple of holes", "tri-slots/tri-holes" (wonder where those came from...

), "two holes at the bottom and another half way up", etc. So those with flooding/burnt issues are wonderin' in da wilderness. I sure wish I had an answer!

In my mind, flooding is due to over fill and/or an air leak. Burning is due to dry coils. The only other factor I can think of is bad cartos.

I have used 1 slot,2 slots,1 punched hole and 2 punched holes.The only leaks I get are user error
or a air leak somewhere on the tank.The horizontal coil carto's seem to flood easier than the boge
(vertical coil),Dual coil carto's seem to flood easy too,It might be the filler material is looser(if that makes sense)I know when new,they absorb liquid faster than the boge's.
Not much help

 

[kinabaloo]

I still have the problem with the cartos not wicking (along with a few others I see). I've tried the fixes that were suggested so I'm still at a loss as to why. I don't have time to mess with them during the workweek, so I'll try again this weekend. Wish me luck.

You may have said earlier, but what cartos are you using ?

 

[wyojoe]

The carto holes match the max diameter of the piercing awl.



What you did makes sense, but the results are what is really puzzling me! I've read in this thread "one small hole", "a couple of holes", "tri-slots/tri-holes" (wonder where those came from...

), "two holes at the bottom and another half way up", etc. So those with flooding/burnt issues are wonderin' in da wilderness. I sure wish I had an answer!

In my mind, flooding is due to over fill and/or an air leak. Burning is due to dry coils. The only other factor I can think of is bad cartos.

wyojoe, in order to delve into this 'mystery' further, I'm willing to send you one of my operational tanks (cleaned, of course) and let you evaluate it on your set up. PM me if you're interested.

That is a very nice thing to offer me.THANKS-- My tanks are working good so I won't take you up on your very generous offer. I was just stating that mine works the best and very well with just one hole punctured , by turning the t-handle of the saddle valve all of the way in until it stops. I will try to make 2 holes again when I need to replace this one and see what happens. Have you tried just one hole at the bottom??

 

[wyojoe]

I have used 1 slot,2 slots,1 punched hole and 2 punched holes.The only leaks I get are user error
or a air leak somewhere on the tank.The horizontal coil carto's seem to flood easier than the boge
(vertical coil),Dual coil carto's seem to flood easy too,It might be the filler material is looser(if that makes sense)I know when new,they absorb liquid faster than the boge's.
Not much help

Your opinion helps because it makes us think. When I have a what I call a flooding problem, I mean it gets to much juice in the carto and then it gurgles and floods the coil therefor it looses vapor production because the coil is to wet. It will in time come out of the battery end, the carto is just to wet so you pull juice into the mouth piece.

 

[Iffy]

That is a very nice thing to offer me.THANKS--

Hey, I luv this team effort! When someone tries sumpin' and it works, then we all benefit. When it doesn't, it may $ave u$ a $tep.

Since ya don't seem to need my ol' tank, I'll offer one to the first person to PM me that has posted a flooding issue in this thread; as long as they post their findings. LMK.

Keysbum and I were very recently talkin' about how great these syringe tanks work; lotsa lotsa vapor, taste and carto life. I'm a huge eMDCC fan, but these puppies kick azz!

Have you tried just one hole at the bottom??

Ummm... errr... well... actually, I haven't. I just jumped to my Beta Ver 2.01, Rev C, Mod iii, Gen 'f'. Guess I should try the Alpha 1.00... huh?

Let ya know when I try it!

 

[Skeeterkck]

Made 2 more carto tanks tonight with the long SS 510 Dual Coil 1.5 + 0.2 cartos I used the 12ml syringes and so now I can vape for several days til I have to fill them up again I have tried the side hole thingy and it just doesn't work for me I do like it without the side fill hole This has been a very educating thread Just think, even a girl can do it too, yayyyyyyyy

Thank you my4jewels muah
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[wizard10000]

In my mind, flooding is due to over fill and/or an air leak. Burning is due to dry coils. The only other factor I can think of is bad cartos.

Joose surface tension? Maybe you can have a buncha small holes but not a big one?

 

[ricks]

Some people with a problem of flooding and gurgling might be because of the holes being too small. I find that if the draw is too hard, it might be drawing in too much liquid and not enough air???? Im just guessing.

Joose surface tension? Maybe you can have a buncha small holes but not a big one?

 

[Skeeterkck]

We have 5000 signatures, Yayyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
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[wizard10000]

Some people with a problem of flooding and gurgling might be because of the holes being too small. I find that if the draw is too hard, it might be drawing in too much liquid and not enough air???? Im just guessing.

I can only speak to my own flooding issue but the carto that flooded had a slot cut about a third of the way around the carto - maybe a little more. The one that doesn't flood I punched with a finishing nail.