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I could not even if I wanted to. I have too much invested in this place. I mean literally invested with the great number of these that I have ordered.
anyways, it is good for everyone to have a punching bag to get out their aggressions.
Thanks. love ya!
I could not even if I wanted to. I have too much invested in this place. I mean literally invested with the great number of these that I have ordered.
anyways, it is good for everyone to have a punching bag to get out their aggressions.
Thanks. love ya!
LOL dude, you're far from being a punching bag... you're the twist in this thread that would in some peeps lives be otherwise boring ;D
That settles it. I'm staying (while the vote is still in my favor)
Zen groans and sighs at the same time
I love you guys. Your never getting rid of me.
Zen groans and sighs at the same time
I love you guys. Your never getting rid of me.
That was the most backhanded compliment I have ever heard.
Thanks I guess.
I even have love for you too.
just sayin bro.... even when and if what ya say may not be fitting for the thread, it keeps it fresh and interesting 
it doesnt ever mean i don't like what ya have to say and I would never ask you to be any different 
it doesnt ever mean i don't like what ya have to say and I would never ask you to be any different
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You are 100% correct here as far as my setup goes. You can actually use nichrome or kanthal in any guage you like. I prefer 32ga kanthal a-1 for it's durability. I can burn my coils for upwards of a minute at a time and they do not blow unless there is a short somewhere on the coil. Because of this I can be really lazy because I routinely get around 3 months to a coil with dry burning and rapid quenching in water as I see fit
Others prefer different gauges or nichrome instead of kanthal, but for me kanthal is king
You are 100% correct here as far as my setup goes. You can actually use nichrome or kanthal in any guage you like. I prefer 32ga kanthal a-1 for it's durability. I can burn my coils for upwards of a minute at a time and they do not blow unless there is a short somewhere on the coil. Because of this I can be really lazy because I routinely get around 3 months to a coil with dry burning and rapid quenching in water as I see fit
Others prefer different gauges or nichrome instead of kanthal, but for me kanthal is king
I also agree....i have a cr@p-ton of kanthal 32ga A-1 i've been using and prefer it over all else....... I PIF'd to friends of mine, the 34, 36 and 38ga kanthal and nichrome I had, which I either recieved with my other rebuildables, or bought samples to try....
ok just caught up got home after a 12hr shift OB I got your back the hoard of torch and pitchfork wielding fanatics dont stand a chance!
@ zen any closer to the coil video ??
@ zen any closer to the coil video ??
I have a honest to goodness question for you Zen.
You have mentioned in the past that those with the limited's would have first right of refusal on the future limiteds in order to keep their collection complete.
If one were by some miracle to aquire one from one of the original people, would those same rights apply to the new owner?
Also, if one were lucky enough to get not the first, but the second, would that person then have first shot at the then future models?
I do not have access to the first for those wondering, just curious about the rules.
I hear ya Shaitaan. I appreciate what you are saying. When we do finally meet one day, the first drink is on me.
vaptamist
that goes for you too my friend.
You have mentioned in the past that those with the limited's would have first right of refusal on the future limiteds in order to keep their collection complete.
If one were by some miracle to aquire one from one of the original people, would those same rights apply to the new owner?
Also, if one were lucky enough to get not the first, but the second, would that person then have first shot at the then future models?
I do not have access to the first for those wondering, just curious about the rules.
I hear ya Shaitaan. I appreciate what you are saying. When we do finally meet one day, the first drink is on me.
vaptamist
that goes for you too my friend.
The mesh does play a part in TH as well. The coarser the mesh the greater the TH. #400 mesh will give much less TH than #325. The #400 mesh can have a hard time wicking up thick juice, but since most thick juices are a high% VG, the TH is not very harsh with #325.
If you really want kick in the chest TH you could try a 90% or better PG juice with #300 mesh. If you are brave enough to try that, remember one thing....you have been warned
You are 100% correct here as far as my setup goes. You can actually use nichrome or kanthal in any guage you like. I prefer 32ga kanthal a-1 for it's durability. I can burn my coils for upwards of a minute at a time and they do not blow unless there is a short somewhere on the coil. Because of this I can be really lazy because I routinely get around 3 months to a coil with dry burning and rapid quenching in water as I see fit
Others prefer different gauges or nichrome instead of kanthal, but for me kanthal is king
+1, another who agrees. I use it exclusively and have used other gauges and varieties of nichrome or kanthal. 32g A-1 Kanthal is king here. The durability goes a long way. I just rebuilt an A-2 coil 32g kanthal that sees daily use for work, because well, because I felt like it... The coil/wick was 6 weeks old. My genisis is on 6 weeks also, seeing daily home use, which is all day on weekends.
sorry kinda off topic sorta ok so here is a funny one just loaded some Mutts fire & ice into the Frankenatty I made the wife took it away from me now Im back to crappy cartos...and gotta get her a Zen too she was like ok when do I get mine...
sorry kinda off topic sorta ok so here is a funny one just loaded some Mutts fire & ice into the Frankenatty I made the wife took it away from me now Im back to crappy cartos...and gotta get her a Zen too she was like ok when do I get mine...
well bro, it looks like ya better get your 'other half' one also
...ya dont want to end up landing in the dog house...
The mesh does play a part in TH as well. The coarser the mesh the greater the TH. #400 mesh will give much less TH than #325. The #400 mesh can have a hard time wicking up thick juice, but since most thick juices are a high% VG, the TH is not very harsh with #325.
If you really want kick in the chest TH you could try a 90% or better PG juice with #300 mesh. If you are brave enough to try that, remember one thing....you have been warned
that is true.... the capillary action, you will have less 'thinner' juice wicking up that #325 mesh, making it a warmer, stronger throat hit... but it also gives way to the chance of tasting burnt as well, for that same reason.... I myself would prefer not to chance that...I will take the improved flavor production using the 400 mesh over the 325 with the thinner juices and forego possible problems with burnt taste in my vapor thanks
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on another note, preparing for my zen standard and also my march mini and atty's, I've PIF'd a few more carto tanks and brand new cut carto's to go with em, to some co-workers that I had introduced to vaping...all 3 have successfully quit the analogs within the last 2 months
I'm thinking that people should wait to see how they like the included mesh selection before trying other things... I've tried it ALL... Thus my recommendations...
No matter what your experiences may be with other genesis atomizers, the Zenesis doesn't behave in exactly the same way as many others. You'll see when you get it.
I've experimented with everything from 200x200 on up to 500x500... the 325 and 400 mesh works the best and is very predictable... We're not trying to turn people into genisis tweakers... this is all about doing what works, and is predictable.
Stick with the 32 A1 wire and the included mesh and you'll be successful at this.
Unsolicited Dragon Hint... There MAY be an occasion with a Dragon where you would use a different gauge of wire for certain circumstances, but not on a regular basis.
No matter what your experiences may be with other genesis atomizers, the Zenesis doesn't behave in exactly the same way as many others. You'll see when you get it.
I've experimented with everything from 200x200 on up to 500x500... the 325 and 400 mesh works the best and is very predictable... We're not trying to turn people into genisis tweakers... this is all about doing what works, and is predictable.
Stick with the 32 A1 wire and the included mesh and you'll be successful at this.
Unsolicited Dragon Hint... There MAY be an occasion with a Dragon where you would use a different gauge of wire for certain circumstances, but not on a regular basis.
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