Great fix bud tank plug sounds like the trick. I had wondered about that.
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Zen~ stated early this morning that the fill hole should not be plugged since it was placed there by design to aid in wicking and drainage as well.
Edited to add: I found it:
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Great fix bud tank plug sounds like the trick. I had wondered about that.Hi ecitek,
My Mini has not been shipped yet, so I haven't tryied and experimented with it, but I do own some Genesis atomizers and some of them have a similar design to the attomizer part of the Zenesis. I was having the same liquid flooding the combustion chamber problem with one of them (The Line), it was not a design problem or defect on it, the flooding was due the top cap was not tight enough to the atty body, the effect was a pool of liquid inside the combustion chamber, and the liquid level on the tank decreased significantly.
I think there was some kind of siphon effect inside the combustion chamber, causing flood in it.
You could try putting an O-ring between the top cap and the body for testing purposes, we do not want to damage the tank over tightening the top cap.
Just an idea
I just finished watching Scott's new video on the gen V2 and he heats the Kanthal wire 3 times before wrapping. He didn't say why, (or I missed that part), but I imagine it's to find cold spots and to make it more pliable for wrapping because it's a "springy" type of wire the Kanthal is. Your thoughts?
coolest part of the video to me? The part where I realized I was actually understanding it, thanks to our Zen lessons. Oh, and the even more coolest part? The part where I realized that our Zenesis is even easier than the newest easiest V2.
I do like the cover over the tank though. I wonder what Zen has cooking in the lab.
here's Scott's video if anyone is curious as to what the heck I'm talking about.
coolest part of the video to me? The part where I realized I was actually understanding it, thanks to our Zen lessons.
Oh, and the even more coolest part? The part where I realized that our Zenesis is even easier than the newest easiest V2. I do like the cover over the tank though. I wonder what Zen has cooking in the lab.
here's Scott's video if anyone is curious as to what the heck I'm talking about.
I just finished watching Scott's new video on the gen V2 and he heats the Kanthal wire 3 times before wrapping. He didn't say why, (or I missed that part), but I imagine it's to find cold spots and to make it more pliable for wrapping because it's a "springy" type of wire the Kanthal is. Your thoughts?
coolest part of the video to me? The part where I realized I was actually understanding it, thanks to our Zen lessons.
I do like the cover over the tank though. I wonder what Zen has cooking in the lab.
here's Scott's video if anyone is curious as to what the heck I'm talking about.
watched it too.
He does it to take the "springyness" out of it. Makes it easier to wrap.
I am shocked that I actually understand the process now. I am not usually that bright.
It would be nice to have a device to try this on however.......
Thanks Tim, it certainly aids in wicking and drainage for sure, but I have my own experiences also. I want to lay my PV down without it draining and filling my top cap. I NEED to be able to carry it a loose pocket without filling the top cap, or this will only sit at home. I have a Line V1 and it doesn't do this when laid on its side. In fact it sat on its side on my kitchen table all night last night after Blackbird left. No leaking. None of my genisis atomizers do this unless they have a fill hole. I make my wick like a straw and use 80/20 pg/vg and am actually using 50/50 in a Line right now. This works for me. It may not work for you or anyone else. If it isn't wicking fast enough to keep up with my vaping, I cover the air hole and take a slight air pull, and my wick gets wet without filling my top cap.
I am only contributing. It's now my hybrid PV, and I will use it how I think it works best for me. YMMV. I respect Zen~ 100%, but we can have a difference in opinion on what works for us as individuals. BTW, it is laying on its side right now and is NOT filling my top cap.
cool , trial and error is what got us to the current level of vaping. waiting for zens new video to see new methods in wick building.
Hi ecitek,
My Mini has not been shipped yet, so I haven't tryied and experimented with it, but I do own some Genesis atomizers and some of them have a similar design to the attomizer part of the Zenesis. I was having the same liquid flooding the combustion chamber problem with one of them (The Line), it was not a design problem or defect on it, the flooding was due the top cap was not tight enough to the atty body, the effect was a pool of liquid inside the combustion chamber, and the liquid level on the tank decreased significantly.
I think there was some kind of siphon effect inside the combustion chamber, causing flood in it.
You could try putting an O-ring between the top cap and the body for testing purposes, we do not want to damage the tank over tightening the top cap.
Just an idea
I think you just NAILED IT. Zen should read this as well as it might be good in a Zen-Knowledgebase.
Here is what is happening on mine:
Pooling of liquid in the atty chamber under the cap. There is so much liquid that it leaks onto the O-ring and even out the seam onto my fingers. The liquid leaking causes 1) the cap to come off easily, 2) the constant mess, 3) and possibly the flooding itself.
Zen - maybe my whole set of problems can be solved by a slightly larger o-ring for holding the cap on. If what Ariel MX says is true, that could be the culprit of ALL of the problems I am having, which sounds completely legit. What do you think?
Also, Zen - would you prefer that we discuss these issues here, or somewhere else so that they can be "filed away"? Anything to help.
IMO, issues like this should ONLY be discussed in this thread. This is where everyone comes to for all Zenesis information. From those of us that have been here for a long time to newcomers, this is home.
Posting in another thread only means a lot of folks will miss the information or have a LOT of threads to follow. I for one don't want to have to follow 15+ threads to get information.
Just sayin'
I can't remember exactly what you suggested vs what Zen suggested (and I am too lazy to search it out right now) but here is what I did:
Tried 3-wraps on the wick. No help and 4-wrap seems to work better for me.
Tried the 400 mesh again. Just doesn't work as well with my thick juice as the 325 does, changed it back.
Tried running a paper clip down the center of the wick to tighten it in the hole. May have helped, but only a little.
I am leaning towards the fix that Ariel gave. Especially since my cap has always been "loose". It would explain a lot.
Heya zenfidels!#0016 checkin in!Its startin to live up to the expectations for it!I filled it with 5 ml(when Zen says 5ml's,he means 5 ml's )of vanilla strait(65/35 pg/vg) and proceeded with the setup Zen~ so thoughtfully installed prior to shipping it out.I knew the wick and coil would require some "gunking up" to get to the best performance,so I vaped about 3 ml's before frustration set in and I took the coil and wick off and tried the 325 wick and a new coil.Better,but still not optimal,so i covered the air intake hole in the cap about 1/2 and now it vapes like I was hoping it would!Once I get this last bit of vanilla vaped up,I think I'll load it up with some menthol.
A question for Zen~,Would it even be something to consider to make the air intake on the Ti. standard about 1/2 the size of the current hole on the standard?Maybe even make it user preference?It is really airy(to me) and a restriction seems to improve the draw and wicking from my limited experience.
And a little Zen pic for good measure.
A question for Zen~,Would it even be something to consider to make the air intake on the Ti. standard about 1/2 the size of the current hole on the standard?Maybe even make it user preference?It is really airy(to me) and a restriction seems to improve the draw and wicking from my limited experience.
And a little Zen pic for good measure.
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The video has been recorded, I will edit it later and get it posted late tonight.
Never stack batteries for high voltage in a zenesis PV... If this is your intention and you have already paid, please request a refund.
I am trying VERY HARD to get all domestic PVs shipped tomorrow and all Foreign shipments by the close of business Tuesday.
The switches on the standards have a quick temporary fix installed and the permant fix goes into production tomorrow. All switches for standards will be replaced free of charge.
There are no finish flaws on the PVs being shipped... Everything has been cleaned up.
I'll be back when the video is ready to post.
Never stack batteries for high voltage in a zenesis PV... If this is your intention and you have already paid, please request a refund.
I am trying VERY HARD to get all domestic PVs shipped tomorrow and all Foreign shipments by the close of business Tuesday.
The switches on the standards have a quick temporary fix installed and the permant fix goes into production tomorrow. All switches for standards will be replaced free of charge.
There are no finish flaws on the PVs being shipped... Everything has been cleaned up.
I'll be back when the video is ready to post.
To tighten your top cap. Cut some sewing thread form a spool. Take your top cap off. Wrap the thread into the o-ring, and force to go under the o-ring. two wraps. Tuck the ends. This will displace the o-ring a hair and synch up the top cap. Mine is rather tight. Since I plugged my fill hole, I can cover the air hole and take a draw, it is air tight. I also can pick it up by the top cap and shake, with no problems (mine is a mini, so do this over a pillow as you risk it otherwise).
It may be airy on purpose. If the draw is to tight it may cause major flooding. So tighter draw a buddy tank plug could be the solution.
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no reason to stack batts on geni mod anyway kinda like a dual coil setup why? just looking for trouble....
Also I was thinking, carto in a tank with bad seal= flooding
I posted measurements for the Katana on another thread but not for the Zenisis. I have a mini, but not a standard. I can measure it if need be and post the length x width though
I posted measurements for the Katana on another thread but not for the Zenisis. I have a mini, but not a standard. I can measure it if need be and post the length x width though
please do with DT and without....im pretty sure I have measurements down but I want to see what the average is so far and thank you!
tty soon..
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