House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

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Yay! I've always wanted to be a cool kid!

Last question, are all these latest models going to use the fused quartz stuff for the tank that you were talking about? (Recently had a lovely experience of a tank meltdown while using a lemonade ejuice.)

Yes. The Z-Atty will have the fused quartz tank with a Polycarb shipped as a backup...in case of breakage. Eventually, zen~ will have options for your tank material on his web site. Fused Quartz, Polycarb or Stainless Steel. Since there has been a broken fused quartz, he's sending out polycarb tanks so we will have a tank if the fused quartz should break. How cool is that? :)
 

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Well... I got my Zenisis-Mini and vaped it sooo much that I blame it for my new and only allergy I have ever had in my life. It appears that after two years of vaping I have finally developed an allergic reaction to PG. I typically vape 80/20 or 70/30 pretty much all the time at 3-4 ml a day. With my mini, I was easily doing 7ml the last two days. I would wake up with no problems, then by mid day itching hives on my legs, and by evening around my stomach. The would start out small and then grow and disperse, kinda like a ripple in a pond (my belly :) )

So today, I vaped nothing but VG (in a different PV). All is good. Dumped my Zen tank and setup a 325 mesh & coil, filled it with what I have left for a VG juice. All is good. Placed a decent size order from AVE... Wow I have a lot of PG/VG liquid to move on... maybe try it in a few days again...

Are you POSITIVE it's the PG and not a change in laundry detergent? I had that very thing happen to me when I changed to Gain (?) laundry detergent years ago. HORRIBLE hives from that stuff. Did you or (your wife) switch detergent?
 
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Are you POSITIVE it's the PG and not a change in laundry detergent? I had that very thing happen to me when I changed to Gain (?) laundry detergent years ago. HORRIBLE hives from that stuff. Did you or (your wife) switch detergent?

Yes I am sure. No changes in detergent, soap, anything... my eating habits are the same. I also noticed the more I vaped (evenings) the worse it got. Benadryl helped. Pretty sure it is PG, since I took that out of my routine this morning and am fine now. I am sure I will give PG a try again in a few days... but what got me worried was that I didn't have any PG free stuff around and thought I was gonna have to try DIY. Which I suck at.
 

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I read all domestic standards went monday, I dont have any tracking, anyone else??

Tracking numbers from that shipment became a mess because the clerk refused to put the freakin zip code on them...

BUT...

I Have figured some of them out, and yours will be in your PM box momentarily
 

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Yes I am sure. No changes in detergent, soap, anything... my eating habits are the same. I also noticed the more I vaped (evenings) the worse it got. Benadryl helped. Pretty sure it is PG, since I took that out of my routine this morning and am fine now. I am sure I will give PG a try again in a few days... but what got me worried was that I didn't have any PG free stuff around and thought I was gonna have to try DIY. Which I suck at.

That would definitely suck not having any VG to vape if you can't do PG! That's such a strange reaction to PG. I've never heard that before. I've heard of mouth/throat reactions before, but never hives on the body. I've gotta remember that one.
 

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Tracking numbers from that shipment became a mess because the clerk refused to put the freakin zip code on them...

BUT...

I Have figured some of them out, and yours will be in your PM box momentarily

I feel your pain.
I had one clerk that would put them on like religion, one that would hand me a pen, and one that would just zip through and ignore me completely until it was time to ask for money.
 

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Kar, I vape 16mg. I honestly think it was just to much over a couple days and will lay off it and come back to it in a few. I haven't broke out since (but am a little paranoid), and am vaping 16mg 100%vg now. unfortunately, I only have about 15ml of it left!!! ETA: Also, I am not fond of 100% VG. Though the vapor is CRAZY, especially in the Zenesis, the throat hit lacks, and vg dries me throat out fast and I get a lot of flem.
 
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I have new 2000 batteries on the way, using my 1600 while I'm waiting.

I'm still reading and hunting up videos.
I get the occasional dryish hit and just tip it sideways for a few.

Beautiful machine Mike.

I dripped and burned a few times, and then added my lemon/lime juice to the tank.
Less than half-way in case I did something wrong.
Vapor is plentiful, a little cooler than I would like, but I'm not ready to mess with anything yet.
Figure I'll get to it eventually.
I believe I read where more flavor will come through, and I'll wait for that as well.

Popped the cap off just to check and I do have some condensation, but no juice pooling.
I'm mostly just looking at it, it is enjoyable to just see it sitting there proudly on my desk.

It is a bit long for my little hands, but the button is still quite do-able by adjusting my "grip" lower.

So far, 0 problems.
Just wanted you to know your work is appreciated. The case and "zencessories" are also appreciated.
I like the neat little case and think it was a nice touch I haven't seen before.
It is also vaping better than anything else I have tried to date, and with very little effort on my part.
And... it doesn't make any of those annoying "vaping" noises. So many I have tried are loud one way or another.

Well done.
You have reason to be proud.
 

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On a side note.... I may have to change my vape style.
With most of my PVs, I hold the button, take a long slow drag, rinse repeat.
This seems to work better with shorter "bursts" rather than a 5 or 6 second constant burn.

Also, I have one drip tip that fits well.
Not a complaint, I will gladly buy more.
Anyone have any suggestions on drip tips?
 

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Ok... So here I go...I never really write reviews or really post anything of length. I actually suck at writing and just tend to ramble on...

First off this was my first rebuildable that uses a mesh wick. I have had others including bulli A2, Iatty, and Odysseus (yes i love my GG' s). I also like to tinker with my mods but not to the point where it consumes my whole day.

I was very skeptical at first despite everyone here saying that this would be a game changer even though they had never used one. So I did not have my expectations through the roof. I THOUGHT I had found that ever elusive vaping bliss with my GGTS and oddy.....boy was I wrong.

So I will talk about the build first-

I have the standard and the mini and I have never held a pv this solid. If it wasn't for the glass I think u could run over this with a car and it will be fine.

I did have some machine oil in mine no big deal as I clean everything first (as with every mod I ever owned). Order any mod from anywhere and u will find some type of debris or oil or an over excessive amount of noalox.

The finish is beautiful. The pics really do not do it justice. I do have some machine marks but really I don't care. I have had them on about every mod I have purchased including GG's and Super-T mods. They are not that noticeable and I will have my own wear and tear marks on them soon enough.

The button is the biggest thing I am getting used too. I have had bottom button mods before (empire and super t) but have never really liked them. I have had no firing issues with mine whatsoever. I did noalox the contacts as I always do and used a magnet to get connection without the spacer in the standard. To be honest I give the button a 7 out of 10. But Zen being Zen is fixing it and sending out a better one FOR FREE!!!

All in all I give the overall looks and build of both the standard and mini a 9 out of 10.

Now as far as the atomizer part of things-

I FREAKIN love it.

It does take some break in time. It will be harsh the first tank or 2. U will need to tinker some (adjusting coils, finding the right wick for your juice, etc...) to find your sweet spot. Once you get there it is great. I do not get dry hits I do not get flooding. All I get us consistent hits for the most part.

Rebuilding a coil with wick is very easy. It is the easiest rebuildable I have ever done.

The flavor of your favorite juice will be different with your than what you are used to in your atties and cartos as it is a different method. It will be cleaner.

As for throat hit- OMG. This thing hits hard. Excellent TH. NO need to worry about vv or ohms or watts or meters again. This has the best TH of any mod, atty, carto or anything I have ever vaped.

Most importantly FOLLOW the video instuctions. Zen made these VERY VERY easy to use.

I recently (2 days ago) sold off or gave aways every atty, carto, drip shield, dca, carto tanks, adapters, or whatever else you can think of on the classies. I no longer need to waste my money on those things because this is as good as it get.

So 10 out of 10 for the atomizer.

Overall I love these Zen. They are works of art and they indeed are game changers. They truly are wonderful. Keep coming up with things and I will buy them as I know many other will as well.
 
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I know I don't have my Zenesis yet, so you can take it with a grain of salt. I am saying this based on my own research and the information I was able to gather trying to write an article about the genesis.

For people who are vaping sludge like I do, I am going to let you in on a few tricks from someone who only vapes 100% VG with out dillution and uses SS Mesh wicks. Take about 1/4" less material then zen~ used in his 325. Also cut the little angle on the top. Do a couple of extra burns on the torch with the vg. Everything else is exactly as zen said.

100% VG pretty much needs a 305 to 307 mesh to reproduce ideal capalary action, at least according to the math I was doing for aerogel wicks ;)

Basicaly rolling the wick slightly looser will allow it to carry enough liquid fast enough with out over filling. it the reason for the extra burns is to junk it up a bit more, because you don't have the ideal capalary size and you are trying to utilize the space in between the turns of the roll, and the junk is going to help the wicking alot.

A couple of days ago, I changed out my wick and wrapped a new coil. I was getting it to produce vapor after some initial setbacks, but thought I could get more performance if I tried again in an attempt to fine tune it.

After going through many of the steps Karma listed here I have to say it's working even better than before. Here's a quick breakdown of what I did.

1--Cut 1/4 inch off the end of the 325 wick and re-roll.

2--Pinch both ends open--you want a straw or chimney wick.

3--Keep the wick as tall as possible without hitting the top cap.

4--Don't wrap the coil too tight. I had a hot spot on the top of the coil on the final warp as it went to the center post. I tried to loosen it up, but wound up just wrapping another coil. I used less tension when I wrapped that coil, and it's worked out much better. I also used a lighter to temper the Kanthal and take away some springiness.

5--Cheat a little bit. I thinned out my VG juice a bit with some PG. A couple of drops of distilled water would also work.

6--Take the top off and drip onto the coil. Pulse the switch to get the juice to sizzle. You don't want a dry burn. You want the juice to sizzle. Repeat. Repeat again. And again. And again. You can't do this too much. I did it at least a dozen times.

7--Okay, this one is bit extreme, but it worked for me and made break-in much easier.

With the cap off, turn the Zenesis upside down. In a few seconds, you'll see a bubble come out of the breather hole opposite the wick. It will soon be followed by more bubbles. After about 2 or 3 bubbles, juice will be building up on the very top of your open wick--which is now pointed at the ground. Turn it right side up, put the cap on and vape. It should be a pretty flavorful vape, but keep going and it gets better.

Keep repeating this process. You can keep the cap on because you know after 2 or 3 bubbles you are ready to vape. As the wick breaks in and capillary action increases, you'll go from 2 or 3 bubbles, to 2, to 1, to the occasional 1 after you vape it multiple times and it dries out.

If you are getting nothing but dry burn--particularly a hot dry burn with a metallic taste, you very likely need to look at your coil. There is a difference in flavor between a normal dry burn and a coil with hot spots. The coil-induced dry burn is drier, hotter and can have more of an "off" or metallic taste. A regular dry burn isn't nearly as hot, and while it lacks flavor, it doesn't have the same "off" taste of a coil with hot spots on it--at least to me.

So, that's what I did to get my Standard really performing. Now it just seems to keep getting better. I've had some vapes that have had more depth of flavor than anything I've ever tasted before.

Personally, I think if you vape both PG and VG, that you're better served starting off with PG juices and the installed 400 wick and coil test fired by Zen. You'll learn how it' supposed to behave before you attempt to change wicks for VG and wrap your own coil.
 
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