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Which Z-Atty would you recommend for this Zen?

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Is that a 7.4v device? If so, I wouldn't bother.

And I did sent you 2 Zen~ With no reply :D

How many PM's do I have to reply to? And why on EARTH do you place an order on the site, as a "test run" only to have me cancel it?

The answer is NO

A 20ml syringe will work if you need an emergency replacement for your tank. Also, Zen is working on poly tanks for those who keep breaking the quartz.

I'm hating poly tanks entirely... stainless is looking better everyday, and they are in production for July delivery, or sooner. Poly basically sucks.

Soooooo stoked... I can't wait the suspense is killing me.... This button needs to say in stock! ;D

The button isn't going to say "In Stock"... it's going to say "Add To Cart" and it will happen after the eCommerce is working, and My patience is wearing thin with the merchant services guy that has been telling me 2-3 days for 2-3 weeks.

ob... diy isnt and exact sort of thing. i think zens coffee and pepper analogies are wonderful and spot on to how it is. season to taste. you remind me of my friend, who follows directions on ramen or box macoroni and cheese...i just don't get it lol. you need to seriously stop thinking and following directions and just throw a few drops of this in and a few drops of that. my best recipies come from doing just that. when i cook with spices i don't measure the spices, i just add a dash of this and a dash of that, try it and if it needs more i add more. if you truly want an idiot proof way of making juice go to DIY-Flavoring-Alcohol Base | E Liquid Flavoring-Alcohol Base - E Cig : Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes | eGo Tank 2.5% on almost all flavors....add 2.5% and you are done! this translates into 1 drop per ml, couldn't be simpler

Yeah, "percentage" is gonna be a banned word soon. I can see it coming.

is it insane that I am considering a precise + just for one of my z-atty-p's?

Yes.

Wow! This thread is getting more and more like an all-in-one vapers' guide to the galaxy... Just don't panic...

Anyway, I've tried some of the VZ super-flavors last night and they are shockingly good IMHO. Mixed a peach-tobacco that is pretty good, maybe the first acceptable vape I was able to mix! :) These VZ flavors actually work well with Zen's method, being it that one drop is really lots of flavor.

What I really wanted to know, though, is if anyone knows if the Z-Atties will be available tomorrow as well? And does "tomorrow" mean tonight ? :) You'll be happy that I am still on the fence about getting a whole new PV (more for you!) but I really want a Z-Atty. It would be my first, and my first Genesis-style ever; I really need to get one!!!

Z-Attys will NOT be on the site until the pre-orders are filled... and I never said they would be!

Zen:

I see people not from the USA asking questions about how to pay when your site is freed from the ecommerce issues. I myself have the same question and it might be good to make a sticky or put it in the frequent asked questions section to prevent to answer it over and over again. Thank you in advance and as you are having customers from everywhere in the world, I am sure it will be beneficial to many.

How will I do a "sticky" in a suppliers thread? Monty, everybody is asking how to pay... it's not just people out of the USA... but I'm actually starting to see why people don't ship out of the country, people have been doing "test transactions" on my site... they buy it as a COD and place the order... I pack it in anticipation of the PayPal invoice being paid... then they cancel.

It's really fun... then I have to restock the items, some of which need custom packing, then I have to adjust the website quantities back to where they belong... all with a smile on my face because the customer is always right, even when he's a complete ..... and has no respect for my time... You should try it some time... it's a laugh a minute.

Hi. Are the payments sorted on HOH yet? I hear it is just going to be cash on delivery which is no good to me as I am in the UK. Can anyone confirm? Probably been mentioned somewhere but I have been at work. Thanks.

Do people read ANYTHING? I'm starting to doubt it! If a person puts an item in the cart and goes to checkout... they see at the top of the page the following, IN BOLD LETTERS, by the way: "The only payment method we have at the moment is PayPal, and to use that, please go all the way through the checkout procedure and it will process the order as COD. We will send you a PayPal invoice within 36 hours. Once the payment has been received, we will ship your order."

Is there ANY question as to what that means?

I'm gonna blow an aneurism here shortly.

Well, neither Ob nor Bumpi are from upstate NY, so your premise is flawed from the beginning. :D

Yet I am from upstate, and a PROUD pervert!

Hey how come that guy got his mini on the 27th:mail:...i payed for my on the the 13th and i am still miniless!:glare:
Is miniless a word?:facepalm:

How many times did he change HIS order? Compare that to your situation.

"Powered by ANY 18350 LiIon Protected or IMR Cell"

This is in the Mini description... I've read all the battery threads I can find and still a bit confused. Which battery do you use in you mini and why.... And generally how long are they lasting between charges. (I realize this is highly flexible and dependent on how heavy it's being used.)

I've seen some 18350 700maH bats and some 18350 1200maH bats... The 1200's are going to last longer right? At what cost though, or what's the trade off... Safety?

That's an error I need to correct... the Mini uses ONLY an IMR AW battery... nothing else.

I think Zen was taken undue advantage of by the Fates. He based his delivery dates on a belief in a well run Universe, without taking into consideration Murphy's Law which states that 'if it can go wrong, it will go wrong'.......I speak from experience of Mr Murphy as I have had a long and not unremarkable association with him........LOL

Mr Murphy and Mr Numbnutz are in a tie for my two least favorite people at the moment.

Good to know that this thread can go down that slippery slope w/o my help! I'm thinking that if I fill up Zen's inbox with XXX pms it won't get me a ZAP faster, but I may try it!

I would have to say it would be worth a shot... ya never know.

5mls of 70pg/20 vg

Capella strawberries and cream experiment:
1 drop - nothing
2 drops - nothing
3 drops - maybe something but can't tell what
4 drops - same as 3

putting my tank and carto back on the provari and watching game of thrones.

Capellas is REALLY muted and diluted flavors... keep adding drops.
Still looking for those PM's :lol:

This was a bad day in Zen Land... PM's were at an all time high asking what I will be putting on the site tomorrow... and eCommerce isn't working yet... everybody is counting down as though I have not indicated the mighty IF ECOMMERCE IS WORKING at least a dozen times...

Emails from the same people with the PMs are always fun as well... oh... and text messages from people to my cell phone... all day long.

Here are exact quotes from a few of my text messages today... The names have been changed to protect the clueless...

Message 1: (this is for real...)

Customer: Hai... u wan sell me limited tomorow?

Zen~:I'm sorry, the Limited has been sold out for 7 months

Customer: When B back?

Zen~:Never, they are sold out.

Customer:OIC... when be back again?

Zen~:Never... they are no longer being made, I'm sorry.

Customer:They not 4sail tomorrow?

Zen~:No, they are sold out and will not be made again.

Customer:I don understand... When back instock?

Zen~:Sorry, they are discontinued. No more. Gone.

Customer: Until when?

Zen~:Eternity... They are no longer being made... I have to run... thanks for your interest.

Customer: Ok, when will Limited be back?

Zen~: Have a good day...

Message number 2:

Customer: I see the only way to pay for the Z-atty-Pro when it goes on sale tomorrow will be COD and that doesn't work for me, will you accept PayPal?

Zen~:The COD option IS PayPal... put the item in the cart and select COD... when you've completed the transaction I will send a PayPal invoice.

Customer:Why are you sending an invoice if it's COD?

Zen~:It's not COD... that's how I'm doing the PayPal transactions

Customer:Then why are we doing COD... can't we just do PayPal?

Zen~:It is PayPal... there's no COD... we are using the COD payment module to initiate a PayPal transaction.

Customer:But I can't Pay COD I want to use PayPal

Zen~:Fine we can do that. We will use PayPal, but can you do me a favor and select COD first, then I'll convert it to PayPal for you, OK?

Customer:Great! thanks.

Zen~:There is one issue. The Z-Attys are not going on sale tomorrow. They will be at least a week or two.

Customer:I thought they were going on sale tomorrow, I've been waiting a long time for one.

Zen~:I'm sorry, thanks for your interest.

Customer:When will the Zatty be in stock?

Zen~:In a couple of weeks, I have to run... thanks!

Customer:NP... what time do they go on sale tomorrow?

Zen~:They don't go on sale tomorrow. Take Care, I have to run.

Customer:You didn't answer when?

Zen~:II did, they won't be on sale for a couple of weeks... sorry to cut you short, but I have to run, have a great day.

Customer:OK thanks, I guess I will just have to keep hitting refresh until they are available.

Zen~:Yep, that should do it. Bye

Message 3: (My personal favorite)

Customer:Are you Zen~

Zen~:I am known by many names...

Customer:hahahahaha u funny guy

Zen~:How can I help you?

Customer:U Zen?

Zen~:Yes... and you are?

Customer:When will the Minis be on the website?

Zen~:As soon as ecommerce is working.

Customer:It's working. I just place about 6 orders, everything works fine.

Zen~:Oh cool, thanks for your orders, I just finished packing those, just waiting for your PayPal invoice to put postage on them.

Customer:I don't want hose orders, I was just checking out the site. It works great! When will the Zen Mods be on sale so I can get one.

Zen~:You don't want the orders you placed?

Customer:No, I wanted to do a few dry runs so I make sure I have the order thing all worked out, and to see how long it would take to place the orders.

Zen~:You don't want all this stuff you ordered?

Customer:No hahahahaha sorry you packed them, but I didn't pay, so, why did you pack the stuff?

Zen~:Well, because you ordered it.

Customer:So what time will the Mini go on the site?

Zen~:Put it on product notifications, and you'll get an email telling you when they are in stock.

Customer:I won't get the email, I made up an email address when I made my account.

Zen~:So you never got the PayPal invoice?

Customer:hahahaha no

Zen~:Look, I have to run and now I have to restock this stuff you ordered, have a good day.

Customer:hahahaha bye Zen, I can hardly wait to get my mini.

Zen~:bye, enjoy the rest of your day.
 

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Thanks for repeating my post Zen. I did post another message a little further down stating that it doesn't matter and it was just what someone told me whilst I had been at work, he had got the wrong end of the stick. I myself have been reading your posts but don't have a blow by blow account 24/7 as I work too.

I also didn't pm you about it, just posted here so as not to bother you.

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Is that a 7.4v device? If so, I wouldn't bother.



How many PM's do I have to reply to? And why on EARTH do you place an order on the site, as a "test run" only to have me cancel it?

The answer is NO



I'm hating poly tanks entirely... stainless is looking better everyday, and they are in production for July delivery, or sooner. Poly basically sucks.



The button isn't going to say "In Stock"... it's going to say "Add To Cart" and it will happen after the eCommerce is working, and My patience is wearing thin with the merchant services guy that has been telling me 2-3 days for 2-3 weeks.



Yeah, "percentage" is gonna be a banned word soon. I can see it coming.



Yes.



Z-Attys will NOT be on the site until the pre-orders are filled... and I never said they would be!



How will I do a "sticky" in a suppliers thread? Monty, everybody is asking how to pay... it's not just people out of the USA... but I'm actually starting to see why people don't ship out of the country, people have been doing "test transactions" on my site... they buy it as a COD and place the order... I pack it in anticipation of the PayPal invoice being paid... then they cancel.

It's really fun... then I have to restock the items, some of which need custom packing, then I have to adjust the website quantities back to where they belong... all with a smile on my face because the customer is always right, even when he's a complete ..... and has no respect for my time... You should try it some time... it's a laugh a minute.



Do people read ANYTHING? I'm starting to doubt it! If a person puts an item in the cart and goes to checkout... they see at the top of the page the following, IN BOLD LETTERS, by the way: "The only payment method we have at the moment is PayPal, and to use that, please go all the way through the checkout procedure and it will process the order as COD. We will send you a PayPal invoice within 36 hours. Once the payment has been received, we will ship your order."

Is there ANY question as to what that means?

I'm gonna blow an aneurism here shortly.



Yet I am from upstate, and a PROUD pervert!



How many times did he change HIS order? Compare that to your situation.



That's an error I need to correct... the Mini uses ONLY an IMR AW battery... nothing else.



Mr Murphy and Mr Numbnutz are in a tie for my two least favorite people at the moment.



I would have to say it would be worth a shot... ya never know.



Capellas is REALLY muted and diluted flavors... keep adding drops.
Still looking for those PM's :lol:

This was a bad day in Zen Land... PM's were at an all time high asking what I will be putting on the site tomorrow... and eCommerce isn't working yet... everybody is counting down as though I have not indicated the mighty IF ECOMMERCE IS WORKING at least a dozen times...

Emails from the same people with the PMs are always fun as well... oh... and text messages from people to my cell phone... all day long.

Here are exact quotes from a few of my text messages today... The names have been changed to protect the clueless...

Message 1: (this is for real...)

Customer: Hai... u wan sell me limited tomorow?

Zen~:I'm sorry, the Limited has been sold out for 7 months

Customer: When B back?

Zen~:Never, they are sold out.

Customer:OIC... when be back again?

Zen~:Never... they are no longer being made, I'm sorry.

Customer:They not 4sail tomorrow?

Zen~:No, they are sold out and will not be made again.

Customer:I don understand... When back instock?

Zen~:Sorry, they are discontinued. No more. Gone.

Customer: Until when?

Zen~:Eternity... They are no longer being made... I have to run... thanks for your interest.

Customer: Ok, when will Limited be back?

Zen~: Have a good day...

Message number 2:

Customer: I see the only way to pay for the Z-atty-Pro when it goes on sale tomorrow will be COD and that doesn't work for me, will you accept PayPal?

Zen~:The COD option IS PayPal... put the item in the cart and select COD... when you've completed the transaction I will send a PayPal invoice.

Customer:Why are you sending an invoice if it's COD?

Zen~:It's not COD... that's how I'm doing the PayPal transactions

Customer:Then why are we doing COD... can't we just do PayPal?

Zen~:It is PayPal... there's no COD... we are using the COD payment module to initiate a PayPal transaction.

Customer:But I can't Pay COD I want to use PayPal

Zen~:Fine we can do that. We will use PayPal, but can you do me a favor and select COD first, then I'll convert it to PayPal for you, OK?

Customer:Great! thanks.

Zen~:There is one issue. The Z-Attys are not going on sale tomorrow. They will be at least a week or two.

Customer:I thought they were going on sale tomorrow, I've been waiting a long time for one.

Zen~:I'm sorry, thanks for your interest.

Customer:When will the Zatty be in stock?

Zen~:In a couple of weeks, I have to run... thanks!

Customer:NP... what time do they go on sale tomorrow?

Zen~:They don't go on sale tomorrow. Take Care, I have to run.

Customer:You didn't answer when?

Zen~:II did, they won't be on sale for a couple of weeks... sorry to cut you short, but I have to run, have a great day.

Customer:OK thanks, I guess I will just have to keep hitting refresh until they are available.

Zen~:Yep, that should do it. Bye

Message 3: (My personal favorite)

Customer:Are you Zen~

Zen~:I am known by many names...

Customer:hahahahaha u funny guy

Zen~:How can I help you?

Customer:U Zen?

Zen~:Yes... and you are?

Customer:When will the Minis be on the website?

Zen~:As soon as ecommerce is working.

Customer:It's working. I just place about 6 orders, everything works fine.

Zen~:Oh cool, thanks for your orders, I just finished packing those, just waiting for your PayPal invoice to put postage on them.

Customer:I don't want hose orders, I was just checking out the site. It works great! When will the Zen Mods be on sale so I can get one.

Zen~:You don't want the orders you placed?

Customer:No, I wanted to do a few dry runs so I make sure I have the order thing all worked out, and to see how long it would take to place the orders.

Zen~:You don't want all this stuff you ordered?

Customer:No hahahahaha sorry you packed them, but I didn't pay, so, why did you pack the stuff?

Zen~:Well, because you ordered it.

Customer:So what time will the Mini go on the site?

Zen~:Put it on product notifications, and you'll get an email telling you when they are in stock.

Customer:I won't get the email, I made up an email address when I made my account.

Zen~:So you never got the PayPal invoice?

Customer:hahahaha no

Zen~:Look, I have to run and now I have to restock this stuff you ordered, have a good day.

Customer:hahahaha bye Zen, I can hardly wait to get my mini.

Zen~:bye, enjoy the rest of your day.

Holy freakin' sheeeeeeeeet!
I'm so sorry.
C.B.
 

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I think my head would expload.... Sorry your having such a crap day M.




Is that a 7.4v device? If so, I wouldn't bother.



How many PM's do I have to reply to? And why on EARTH do you place an order on the site, as a "test run" only to have me cancel it?

The answer is NO



I'm hating poly tanks entirely... stainless is looking better everyday, and they are in production for July delivery, or sooner. Poly basically sucks.



The button isn't going to say "In Stock"... it's going to say "Add To Cart" and it will happen after the eCommerce is working, and My patience is wearing thin with the merchant services guy that has been telling me 2-3 days for 2-3 weeks.



Yeah, "percentage" is gonna be a banned word soon. I can see it coming.



Yes.



Z-Attys will NOT be on the site until the pre-orders are filled... and I never said they would be!



How will I do a "sticky" in a suppliers thread? Monty, everybody is asking how to pay... it's not just people out of the USA... but I'm actually starting to see why people don't ship out of the country, people have been doing "test transactions" on my site... they buy it as a COD and place the order... I pack it in anticipation of the PayPal invoice being paid... then they cancel.

It's really fun... then I have to restock the items, some of which need custom packing, then I have to adjust the website quantities back to where they belong... all with a smile on my face because the customer is always right, even when he's a complete ..... and has no respect for my time... You should try it some time... it's a laugh a minute.



Do people read ANYTHING? I'm starting to doubt it! If a person puts an item in the cart and goes to checkout... they see at the top of the page the following, IN BOLD LETTERS, by the way: "The only payment method we have at the moment is PayPal, and to use that, please go all the way through the checkout procedure and it will process the order as COD. We will send you a PayPal invoice within 36 hours. Once the payment has been received, we will ship your order."

Is there ANY question as to what that means?

I'm gonna blow an aneurism here shortly.



Yet I am from upstate, and a PROUD pervert!



How many times did he change HIS order? Compare that to your situation.



That's an error I need to correct... the Mini uses ONLY an IMR AW battery... nothing else.



Mr Murphy and Mr Numbnutz are in a tie for my two least favorite people at the moment.



I would have to say it would be worth a shot... ya never know.



Capellas is REALLY muted and diluted flavors... keep adding drops.
Still looking for those PM's :lol:

This was a bad day in Zen Land... PM's were at an all time high asking what I will be putting on the site tomorrow... and eCommerce isn't working yet... everybody is counting down as though I have not indicated the mighty IF ECOMMERCE IS WORKING at least a dozen times...

Emails from the same people with the PMs are always fun as well... oh... and text messages from people to my cell phone... all day long.

Here are exact quotes from a few of my text messages today... The names have been changed to protect the clueless...

Message 1: (this is for real...)

Customer: Hai... u wan sell me limited tomorow?

Zen~:I'm sorry, the Limited has been sold out for 7 months

Customer: When B back?

Zen~:Never, they are sold out.

Customer:OIC... when be back again?

Zen~:Never... they are no longer being made, I'm sorry.

Customer:They not 4sail tomorrow?

Zen~:No, they are sold out and will not be made again.

Customer:I don understand... When back instock?

Zen~:Sorry, they are discontinued. No more. Gone.

Customer: Until when?

Zen~:Eternity... They are no longer being made... I have to run... thanks for your interest.

Customer: Ok, when will Limited be back?

Zen~: Have a good day...

Message number 2:

Customer: I see the only way to pay for the Z-atty-Pro when it goes on sale tomorrow will be COD and that doesn't work for me, will you accept PayPal?

Zen~:The COD option IS PayPal... put the item in the cart and select COD... when you've completed the transaction I will send a PayPal invoice.

Customer:Why are you sending an invoice if it's COD?

Zen~:It's not COD... that's how I'm doing the PayPal transactions

Customer:Then why are we doing COD... can't we just do PayPal?

Zen~:It is PayPal... there's no COD... we are using the COD payment module to initiate a PayPal transaction.

Customer:But I can't Pay COD I want to use PayPal

Zen~:Fine we can do that. We will use PayPal, but can you do me a favor and select COD first, then I'll convert it to PayPal for you, OK?

Customer:Great! thanks.

Zen~:There is one issue. The Z-Attys are not going on sale tomorrow. They will be at least a week or two.

Customer:I thought they were going on sale tomorrow, I've been waiting a long time for one.

Zen~:I'm sorry, thanks for your interest.

Customer:When will the Zatty be in stock?

Zen~:In a couple of weeks, I have to run... thanks!

Customer:NP... what time do they go on sale tomorrow?

Zen~:They don't go on sale tomorrow. Take Care, I have to run.

Customer:You didn't answer when?

Zen~:II did, they won't be on sale for a couple of weeks... sorry to cut you short, but I have to run, have a great day.

Customer:OK thanks, I guess I will just have to keep hitting refresh until they are available.

Zen~:Yep, that should do it. Bye

Message 3: (My personal favorite)

Customer:Are you Zen~

Zen~:I am known by many names...

Customer:hahahahaha u funny guy

Zen~:How can I help you?

Customer:U Zen?

Zen~:Yes... and you are?

Customer:When will the Minis be on the website?

Zen~:As soon as ecommerce is working.

Customer:It's working. I just place about 6 orders, everything works fine.

Zen~:Oh cool, thanks for your orders, I just finished packing those, just waiting for your PayPal invoice to put postage on them.

Customer:I don't want hose orders, I was just checking out the site. It works great! When will the Zen Mods be on sale so I can get one.

Zen~:You don't want the orders you placed?

Customer:No, I wanted to do a few dry runs so I make sure I have the order thing all worked out, and to see how long it would take to place the orders.

Zen~:You don't want all this stuff you ordered?

Customer:No hahahahaha sorry you packed them, but I didn't pay, so, why did you pack the stuff?

Zen~:Well, because you ordered it.

Customer:So what time will the Mini go on the site?

Zen~:Put it on product notifications, and you'll get an email telling you when they are in stock.

Customer:I won't get the email, I made up an email address when I made my account.

Zen~:So you never got the PayPal invoice?

Customer:hahahaha no

Zen~:Look, I have to run and now I have to restock this stuff you ordered, have a good day.

Customer:hahahaha bye Zen, I can hardly wait to get my mini.

Zen~:bye, enjoy the rest of your day.
 

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Zen~, that is why they don't let me deal directly with customers. I wouldn't have made it 25% of the way through message chain #1 before going postal. They say patience is a virtue. Clearly, I am not a virtuous person.

- Tim

I would have just deleted it about 1/4 of the way down.
 

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You should plaster the following message in huge, bolded type across every page on your site:

"There is currently NO E.T.A. on Zenesis APVs and Z-Attys. Select the "Notify me of updates..." option on the product page of each product your are interested in and you will be emailed as soon as they become available on the site. All emails, PMs, and message board posts asking when they will be available will be ignored."

:lol:

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Experiment Part 2
5 drops - no difference
6 drops - sweeter but no distinguishable flavor
7 drops - hint of strawberry
8 drops - about the same a 7
9 drops - a little strawberry on inhale, not so much on the exhale, no cream flavor
10 drops - light strawberry flavor on inhale and exhale, no cream as of yet

I plugged some #'s into a calculator and I think one drop = 1%. Will continue this tomorrow. Goodnight everyone.
 
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