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House Panel Approves FDA Tobacco Oversight

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  1. Tallulah

    Tallulah Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 13, 2008
    Chicago IL USA
  2. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2008
    Port Charlotte, FL USA
    I so wish they'd listen to the Indiana representative calling for harm reduction. Control of tobacco should either be in a special agency -- Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms -- or with the Department of Health and Human Services. After all, they claim smoking is America's biggest health problem.

    But what this legislation is saying in its implication is that nicotine is a drug needing regulation by the Food and Drug Administration. If that's so, what of e-smoking's future and our drug delivery devices for nicotine?
     
  3. jennydotz

    jennydotz Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 14, 2009
    West Virginia, USA
    Tallulah--THanks for posting the news
     
  4. MonkeyMonk

    MonkeyMonk Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2009
    Ugh! Certain parts of that article are more troublesome than others.
     
  5. jamie

    jamie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jun 3, 2008
    USA
    I believe this is the bill in question - H.R. 1108: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1108

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h1108:


    Snips from the article:

    March 4 (Bloomberg) -- Decade-old legislation authorizing the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to regulate the $80- billion-a-year tobacco industry cleared a House panel, where Democrats said broad support may speed approval this year.

    The House Committee on Energy and Commerce passed the legislation, the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, in a 39-13 vote today in Washington. The same measure was passed by a 3-to-1 margin in the full House of Representatives last July before stalling....

    The bill, backed by industry leader Altria Group Inc. and President Barack Obama, would restrict tobacco marketing to young people, add larger warnings to cigarette packages, and require the FDA to police ingredients and the introduction of new products.

    All of the Democrats at the panel’s meeting voted in favor of the legislation, and they were joined by six Republicans. The measure now moves to the full House.

    “The American Lung Association urges the full House to quickly pass this important bill..."

    Representative Steve Buyer of Indiana instead proposed a new "Tobacco Harm Reduction Center" within the U.S. Health and Human Services Department to encourage ways to reduce harm from smoking, including a shift toward smokeless products.

    Smaller tobacco manufacturers Reynolds American Inc. and Lorillard Inc. also oppose the legislation, saying restrictions would perpetuate the dominance of Altria’s Philip Morris USA... also fears the FDA won’t do enough to encourage development of less-harmful tobacco products

    Regulation would be funded through fees paid by companies. The legislation wouldn’t allow the FDA to ban tobacco entirely.
     
  6. smokingclam

    smokingclam Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 6, 2009
    Punta Gorda, Florida
    The bill, backed by industry leader Altria Group Inc. and President Barack Obama, would restrict tobacco marketing to young people, add larger warnings to cigarette packages, and require the FDA to police ingredients and the introduction of new products.


    I don't like the part about new products stated here. Even though they are not tobacco products will we fall under this?:(
     
  7. Josh

    Josh Full Member

    Wow, what a time for me to join this forum... 8-o

    I watched the live broadcast earlier today, and agree with Bob's comment about the congressman from Indiana... although it did seem like he was fighting an uphill battle against the majority. From what I observed, most of the committee had already made up their minds about the bill, and were ready to push it back to the house to vote on.

    And yeah, the bill is essentially HR 1108 -- resubmitted as HR 1256. I realize as a newbie, I can't post links, but it's on THOMAS, and I'm sure someone can easily find it and post the link.

    I'm keeping a watchful eye on this... means a lot to me since I just got my first vaporizer just a few weeks ago :(
     
  8. NumerousOne

    NumerousOne Full Member

    Feb 23, 2009
    Everywhere
    Actual wording from the bill.... Look for yourselves.

    "(5) to vest the Food and Drug Administration with the authority to regulate the levels of tar, nicotine, and other harmful components of tobacco products;"

    Just go to the following link GovTrack: H.R. 1108 [110th]: Text of Legislation, Referred in Senate and do a find (Ctrl-F) on "nicotine" without the quotes, to see all the new rights it proposes they should give the FDA in regards to nicotine. One of concern is already hired.

    Personally I'm going to write my congressman, I think if the tobacco industry is going to be regulated at all, it needs to be by an entirely new agency that will actually suggest smokeless alternatives to smoking and get people off cigarettes safely. Basically if this bill is passed the already overworked FDA has the right to control the tobacco industry. Since their game is public health and tobacco is detrimental to health, tobacco, tar, and nicotine would obviously be banned. Might as well throw alcohol in there (like it worked during the prohibition).

    Write your congressmen, ask them to oppose the bill.

    Push e-cigarettes till they become mainstream and the problem will take care of itself.

    I'll post a link shortly, that will give you the e-mail of your local congressman and possibly a pre-written letter, by yours truly :), contesting the bill.
     
  9. TribbleTrouble

    TribbleTrouble Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2009
    Rio Rancho, NM
    This subject bums me out more than this horrible economy.[​IMG]
     
  10. dc2k08

    dc2k08 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    May 21, 2008
    .ie
    source
     
  11. Tallulah

    Tallulah Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 13, 2008
    Chicago IL USA
    ‘(3) LIMITATION ON POWER GRANTED TO THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION- Because of the importance of a decision of the Secretary to issue a regulation--

    ‘(A) banning all cigarettes, all smokeless tobacco products, all little cigars, all cigars other than little cigars, all pipe tobacco, or all roll-your-own tobacco products; or

    ‘(B) requiring the reduction of nicotine yields of a tobacco product to zero,the Secretary is prohibited from taking such actions under this Act.

    I've said it before on this forum and I'll say it again, THIS is why Philip Morris is supporting this bill. It's also why I think the proposed legislation may be a double-edged sword for us. On the one hand, we may be saved from having nicotine banned outright; on the other, it may be the bloody road on which Big Pharma rides in to slay us.
     
  12. dc2k08

    dc2k08 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    May 21, 2008
    .ie
    I think joel nitzkin said it best:

    we are a pathetic bunch us nicotine addicts, having to spend time worrying about bullsh1t like this. actually does make me want to quit nic completely and spend my time taking something useful.
     
  13. Sun Vaporer

    Sun Vaporer Moved On ECF Veteran

    Jan 2, 2009
    Florida
    TB is right on point here--as reiterated from the bill ---The literal reading is once again bad news on the door step for us -- Specifically Sec. 918 as set forth here-- is our device in fact going to be considered "An Innovative Product" --See below in relevent part..............
    H.R.1256

    Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (Introduced in House)

    `SEC. 918. DRUG PRODUCTS USED TO TREAT TOBACCO DEPENDENCE.


    • `(a) In General- The Secretary shall--
      • `(1) at the request of the applicant, consider designating products for smoking cessation, including nicotine replacement products as fast track research and approval products within the meaning of section 506;
      • `(2) consider approving the extended use of nicotine replacement products (such as nicotine patches, nicotine gum, and nicotine lozenges) for the treatment of tobacco dependence; and
      • `(3) review and consider the evidence for additional indications for nicotine replacement products, such as for craving relief or relapse prevention.
    • `(b) Report on Innovative Products-
      • `(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 3 years after the date of enactment of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, the Secretary, after consultation with recognized scientific, medical, and public health experts (including both Federal agencies and nongovernmental entities, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, and the Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco), shall submit to the Congress a report that examines how best to regulate, promote, and encourage the development of innovative products and treatments (including nicotine-based and non-nicotine-based products and treatments) to better achieve, in a manner that best protects and promotes the public health--
        • `(A) total abstinence from tobacco use;
        • `(B) reductions in consumption of tobacco; and
        • `(C) reductions in the harm associated with continued tobacco use.
      • `(2) RECOMMENDATIONS- The report under paragraph (1) shall include the recommendations of the Secretary on how the Food and Drug Administration should coordinate and facilitate the exchange of information on such innovative products and treatments among relevant offices and centers within the Administration and within the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and other relevant agencies.
     
  14. Tallulah

    Tallulah Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 13, 2008
    Chicago IL USA
    Caffeine to make you work hard, alcohol to get the angst out of your system, like a good little worker bee. Weed is out of the question because it makes you not give a good ......n about the structure of the honeycomb. I honestly don't know where nicotine fits into this picture, except that some .......s won't be happy until they control every aspect of your nasty, short, and brutish life.
     
  15. Lithium1330

    Lithium1330 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 22, 2008
    Mexico
    Yes DC this sucks, lets just grow our own tobacco and vaporize that and send goverments to hell.

    We will not have health issues and they will not have big taxe's money.
     
  16. kylewinther

    kylewinther Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 26, 2009
    Los Angeles
    all of this is ludicrous, why doesn't the FDA test it first instead of straight up baning it?
     
  17. jamie

    jamie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jun 3, 2008
    USA
    Regarding the legislation, esp. for letter writers, two documents from AHEAD with proposed modifications (note these are pdf):

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    June 2008 (Revised January 2009)

    MAKING SCIENCE-BASED REDUCED RISK TOBACCO PRODUCTS A PART OF EFFORTS TO REDUCE DISEASE AND DEATH FROM TOBACCO

    CONSTRUCTIVE AND RATIONAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE FINDINGS AND SECTION 911 OF HR 1108


    http://www.tobaccoatacrossroads.com/articles/FDARecs-(Jan%202009).pdf

    ---------------------------
    REFORMING NATIONAL TOBACCO POLICY

    A Rational Approach For the Comprehensive Reform over the Production, Processing, Manufacturing, Sale, Distribution and Marketing of Tobacco and Tobacco Products

    Finding Civil Solutions in an Uncivil Environment

    January 2009


    http://www.tobaccoatacrossroads.com/articles/NationalTobacPolicy2009111thCong.pdf

    ---------------------------


    Here is the status on tobacco issues via search at The Hill:

    http://search.thehill.com/search?ie=&site=thehill_com&output=xml_no_dtd&client=thehill_frontend&lr=&proxystylesheet=thehill_frontend&oe=&q=tobacco&btnG.x=0&btnG.y=0
     
  18. Sun Vaporer

    Sun Vaporer Moved On ECF Veteran

    Jan 2, 2009
    Florida
    Delight--it is ludicrous--the way the laws are written, the burden of proof falls on the manufacture/maker/distibuters to show by way of application for approval and studies that their product is safe to be approved. So the FDA does not have to do anything but sit their and, absent application and supporting saftey data--it can rear its head anytime it wants and pull the product---Sun
     
  19. NumerousOne

    NumerousOne Full Member

    Feb 23, 2009
    Everywhere
    Be the change you expect in the world....

    I don't fret at possibilities or look to far into the future, I asked for a safe alternative to smoking have received it and will now support it.

    Personally I've registered with govtrack.com and will keep abreast on this and other issues that can affect me.

    I am currently writing my local congressmen about my feelings on the situation, will refrain from participating in negative outcome threads in the future, and will continue to propose this as a smoking alternative and possible path to quitting to everybody I know.

    I will post my letter when I'm done. I need to get back to work.

    God Bless....
     
  20. jamie

    jamie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jun 3, 2008
    USA
    Awesome post. Thank you NumerousOne.
     
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