How are LR attys compared to normal ones in terms of life-span?

[Seventh]

I hit the one week mark today (woo!) and got a pair of LR atty's from Vaportalk in the mail for my 510. They are MUUUCH better than the regular ones, albeit a bit more expensive.

How long does the average LR last compared to a normal atomizer, though? At $10/ea they're a bit steep, but they make an already great PV quite a bit better! I'm using the normal 510 battery, if that matters.

Cheers!

 

[hairball]

I suggest you don't use them on a regular 510 battery. The MOSFET switch in your battery can't take the heat and electrical pull that these LR's require. Alot of people use them on eGo/Riva batteries but have the same killing of battery issues. I would suggest you look at purchasing a 3.7v device with removable batteries. A good one that I own is an Icon by Puresmoker.com. I'm sure there are tons more 3.7v mods out there that are more capable of running your LR's.

 

[billo]

You paid way too much.

Eastmall has them for $4 each if you order a few, but they're in China so shipping is about $16.

Liberty-flights also has the Eastmall (EM) for about $4 but only $3 shipping.

I originally ordered 20 EM LR atty's. 1 was bad out of the box. The remainder are lasting an average of 21 days each.(6 to 32 days at the extremes.) I've used about half of them.

You have to be careful not to let them dry out. These measure 1.8 ohms, so they're not exceptional low resistance.

Incidentally, I'm probably not going to use the rest of my LR's because I just got an eGo-T (with the standard 2.2 ohm atty)
and it puts out TWICE the vapor of the standard eGo with the LR atty ! You've got to try this !

 

[Timothy Cullen]

yeah eastmall is great if your trying to save money no offense we all are. but nothing beats a cisco spec 306 or 510 they just work and stay working for just about ever. ask anybody thats used them and its gonna be yes. ive used the eastmall 510's and they work great especially on my wetbox but they dont hold a flame to a cisco. but thats just my 2 cents

 

[cyberwolf]

Lifespan of the LRs is definitely shorter, but actual mileage varies. I look for an average of about three weeks, too. On regulars I was disappointed if they didn't last two months. Vapemasters has genuine Joye for $5.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I strongly second hairball on this one. DO NOT use LR atties on your regular 510 battery. It will kill it! LR atties should only be used with batteries that are at least 450mAh or greater. You'll need at least a Riva/eGo type battery. LR atties are also meant to be used with dripping. They run hotter and must be kept wet. Carts can't wick fast enough to keep them wet. A dry LR atty is a dead LR atty.

 

[muzichead]

I suggest you don't use them on a regular 510 battery. The MOSFET switch in your battery can't take the heat and electrical pull that these LR's require. Alot of people use them on eGo/Riva batteries but have the same killing of battery issues. I would suggest you look at purchasing a 3.7v device with removable batteries. A good one that I own is an Icon by Puresmoker.com. I'm sure there are tons more 3.7v mods out there that are more capable of running your LR's.

I was under the impression that the EGo is a 3.7v battery. All my research came up with that......

 

[Hrtbrkr1965]

I was under the impression that the EGo is a 3.7v battery. All my research came up with that......

The EGO is a 3.7 but the OP Said they were using a regular 510 battery which gives the impression of a small battery as in joye 510 and not a 650 mah ego! Lr atties are bad news for small batteries!

 

[Seventh]

Correct, I was using it with my 510 battery (since it's a 510 atty). Thanks again for the input!

I have an eGo-T as well, but the battery doesn't even come close to fitting on the 510. Can I just order an icon battery and use it with these 510 LRs? Or is there a 3.7+ 510 battery out there?

Edit: It's probably also worth noting that I take maybe 10 puffs of my 510 a day, if that. It's just my morning vape, and once in a great while in the evening (if that matters at all).

 

[Rainygirl]

Thanks for asking that question because I was wondering the same thing.

 

[AttyPops]

1. An eGo is really 3.2 or 3.4 volts, since it is modulated. The mods that use 3.7 v batteries directly are the reference to 3.7 volts (like hairballs post).
2. Like hairball said, LR atties can kill an eGo just like they can kill a regular battery. YMMV as they say. The bottom line is that they stress the mosfet/circuitry in the device. Many mods don't have MOSFETs or use more robust parts. It's the atty ohms that make the difference. The lower the resistance, the more current it "allows" through. Thus, the hotter it gets per vape. A 2.0 Ω atty will stress it less than a 1.5 Ω atty, for example.

Interestingly, the smaller batteries are more limited in the amount of amps they produce, thus may actually be somewhat self-limiting. I'd be interested to know how many NEW regular 510 batteries have been killed with LR atties. Share your real-world experiences?

3. LR atties are "hotter" than regular atties. Thus, shorter life span. YMMV with this too. Depends on how hot you get it. That's why WomanOfHeart said "A dry LR atty is a dead LR atty." The liquid keeps it cool.

I was confused by the icon battery question. The LR atty fits a 510 battery. Will fit an eGo, or 3.7 v 510 mod.

I find 1.5 Ω LR atties too hot for "true" 3.7 mods (9.13 watts). I like 2.0 Ω better (6.8 watts).

 

[Seventh]

Thanks for asking that question because I was wondering the same thing.

Haha no problem, I have been searching and hate to be That Guy, but I couldn't find a definitive answer. It's amazing just how much better the LR atty works compared to the standard ones, but now I'm afraid to use it!

 

[s6a6n6d6m6a6n]

Like womanofheart said, anything over 450mAh, which is the eGo or Riva from the 510 family should work good with LR attys.
I've had several people report day and night difference when using LR vs. standard 510 attys in the vapor and TH department.

LR attys here are $14.99 for a pack of 5

 

[Seventh]

Like womanofheart said, anything over 450mAh, which is the eGo or Riva from the 510 family should work good with LR attys.
I've had several people report day and night difference when using LR vs. standard 510 attys in the vapor and TH department.

LR attys here are $14.99 for a pack of 5

Looks like that place is in China. Unfortunately, I have to buy from a US-based shop. Long story short, I work for the government, and anything overseas is considered dealing with a foreign national. (I can still do it, it's just a bunch of paperwork and such).

Thank you though.

Edit: So 510 atty's will fit on a non-tank eGo? (My apologies if this is a stupid question..)

 

[AttyPops]

Nooooooooo! See post 11 and post 2. LR (1.5 Ω) atties will kill the eGo. It has very little to do with the mAh, and everything to do with the circuit design overheating. Although, the more mAh the battery is, the easier it is to get it to supply over-amps. There are tons of posts on here about killing eGos. Use a 2.0 ohm atty if you must!

 

[Seventh]

Nooooooooo! See post 11 and post 2. LR (1.5 Ω) atties will kill the eGo. It has very little to do with the mAh, and everything to do with the circuit design overheating. Although, the more mAh the battery is, the easier it is to get it to supply over-amps. There are tons of posts on here about killing eGos. Use a 2.0 ohm atty if you must!

Gotcha. Thank you!

So my question is, I now have a bunch of LR atty's that fit my 510.. What the hell should I be picking up to use them with? I'm googling batteries and such, but most everything comes up with info/sales of the atty's, and not actual batteries themselves.

 

[AttyPops]

Gotcha. Thank you!

So my question is, I now have a bunch of LR atty's that fit my 510.. What the hell should I be picking up to use them with? I'm googling batteries and such, but most everything comes up with info/sales of the atty's, and not actual batteries themselves.

Well, that's a fair question. lol. Now, understand that people DO use 1.5 Ω atties with eGo type devices. They just risk frying the batteries. Also, the battery (actually circuit) failures are born out in real world experience. However, some people "puff" less, or maybe there is some difference in manufacturing. IDK. But you have a choice:

1) Use them with regular 510 batteries... won't perform as well due to the small battery, but if you fry it, it's only $10.00 Oh, and even crappier battery life-per-charge.
2) Use them with eGo batteries, and "risk it". Performs well. $20.00 ish if it fries.
3) Use them with 3.7 volt mod. A bit too hot for me IMHO, but won't fry.
4) Bite the bullet and get a vv mod, dial it down to say, 3.4 volts.
5) Switch out the atties, put these in the "emergency bin".

How many is in a "bunch"? BTW, I find that regular atties last me at least a month. I change it after a month, and put the still working one "in the bin". I don't use the 1.5 ohm atties (for reasons stated above) so IDK how long they would last.

BTW, "LR" is a range. The worst culprits are the 1.5 ohm atties. The 2.0 ohm atties are still considered "LR". The only way you can really tell the Ω for the atty is to test it with a multi-meter. They vary a bit due to manufacturing. Many suppliers list a rage.

Also, the MadVapes forum had, I think, the original post about LR atties killing eGo devices. Who knows when a design change will be incorporated into the eGo units so they don't fry so easily. Maybe they already have changed it. They have new button-logic now to shut them off after 5 quick presses. So... maybe they are more robust too. We can only hope.

 

[BsgD68]

yeah eastmall is great if your trying to save money no offense we all are. but nothing beats a cisco spec 306 or 510 they just work and stay working for just about ever. ask anybody thats used them and its gonna be yes. ive used the eastmall 510's and they work great especially on my wetbox but they dont hold a flame to a cisco. but thats just my 2 cents

Hey Timothy, I've got a Precise on the way and was wondering where I could find these cisco specs you are referring to. All of the vendors that I checked just say something like " Low Resistance Atomizer".