How bad is getting juice inside? How careful should you be?

[exodus454]

So as psyched as I am to finally get my grubby little hands on a BP I was just wondering something. I've just been occupying my time reading up on anything and everything BP related until the glorious day when it shows up.

How careful does one have to be with getting juice in it? I gather from reading that the chassis is open at the switch and wheel, and sealed with an o-ring in the connector. Is juice sitting in to connector something I need to be concerned with? Say there's an apocalyptic juice spill, I'm guessing juice in the chassis via the wheel or button is really bad for it? Would it be a bad idea to clean it out with iso alcohol every so often as preventative maintenance?

I just wanna do everything possible to avoid screwing it up and give my buzz a good long life. Right now with my e-power and egos I don't really care about juice spills - but they also have cones on them and were cheap so I'm not all that conscientious about it. I also almost never clean out the battery connectors unless something starts misbehaving, so they usually have some juice sitting in there for extended periods. And all my batteries still work!

That said though, I've also gotten a LOT better about not spilling juice since I started vaping but every once and awhile I'll not be paying attention and grossly overfill a carto

So how careful do you have to be?

 

[TexasT]

LOL, I'm not sure I really know the answer to your full question ... but one thing you might consider is taking the carto off of your device and then refill it. That way you can blow out any excess, clean the threaded end and then put it back on. I generally (gently) stick a round toothpick in the hole that runs down through the carto before refilling. This keeps juice from just running straight through the carto.

TT

 

[908Tracy]

I bought a few shorty sealed 510-510 adapters.(use one at a time of course, but have a spare on hand as well) The juice into the units skeered the bejesus out of me, and well, I just don't want to go there, so I took every precaution I could think of. lol HTH!

 

[Bovinia]

Ex, I'm so glad that you are educating yourself! TexasT and Tracy just gave you some of the best advice. A little juice spill is no biggie as long as you clean it up. I use a paper towel or kleenex to clean out my connector each day, but I rarely have any juice drips in it. You can wet the paper towel with a little iso if you want, but be sure the connector is dry before you use your BP again.

If you are using cartos, you may want to consider trying a tank. It sure beats having to top off every hour or so

Keep those questions coming! The only dumb question is the one left unasked!

 

[Ruppy]

Mike seals the boards on the pros. While its not good to get juice in them, A little bit is probably not going to damage your device. The top is , for the most part, sealed. The orings will keep the majority of the liquid out. As they wear they lose elasticity and eventually leak. Juice will seep inside. Mostly the boards will survive but it can also get in the button.

AVOID over tightening cartos and atties. This compresses the orings and can allow liquid past. It also reduces the life of seals.

Some juices are slightly conductive. From my month long experiment, this is almost always due to additives and flavorings. PG and VG in and of themselves are not conductive to any measurable extent.

Long story short, dont let juice fear rule your life! LMAO. Clean up leaks when you can and perform regular maintenance on your ecig (clean your connector). I also take my cap off once a month and clean the underside and disassemble the cap. (bare in mind I can resolder my connector or perform simple repairs if I mess something up) Maintain your device to the extent you are comfortable with or capable of.

Disclaimer: I am in no way responsible for damage done to your device if you decide to disassemble it

 

[exodus454]

See? Now here I felt kinda silly asking such basic questions, but I just learned quite a bit!

I think I might look into getting one of those sealed adapters! As much as I'd like to say I'll just take the carto off every time I fill it - I also know myself well enough to not expect such things from myself haha. I did get one of the M1A1's but since I'm new to the whole tank game I'm almost expecting to make at least one good mess with it.

I'm also glad to hear the board is sealed, that eases my mind quite a bit. I'll have to consciously not crank the carto down too. With the terrible threads on my e-power you gotta muscle it on sometimes. It's disgusting actually, so I'll have to get out of that habit.

Also never would have thought some juices can be conductive! That's some food for thought right there. Maybe I'll go clean all my other connectors now!

I'm sure the top cap will come off to take a peek at some point. Soldiering isn't a big deal, got all the supplies and know how to cross that bridge. I'm the person that all my friends come to saying "I broke this, can you soldier it for me?". And don't worry Ruppy, I won't blame anyone if I break something!

 

[Ruppy]

See? Now here I felt kinda silly asking such basic questions, but I just learned quite a bit!

I think I might look into getting one of those sealed adapters! As much as I'd like to say I'll just take the carto off every time I fill it - I also know myself well enough to not expect such things from myself haha. I did get one of the M1A1's but since I'm new to the whole tank game I'm almost expecting to make at least one good mess with it.

I'm also glad to hear the board is sealed, that eases my mind quite a bit. I'll have to consciously not crank the carto down too. With the terrible threads on my e-power you gotta muscle it on sometimes. It's disgusting actually, so I'll have to get out of that habit.

Also never would have thought some juices can be conductive! That's some food for thought right there. Maybe I'll go clean all my other connectors now!

I'm sure the top cap will come off to take a peek at some point. Soldiering isn't a big deal, got all the supplies and know how to cross that bridge. I'm the person that all my friends come to saying "I broke this, can you soldier it for me?". And don't worry Ruppy, I won't blame anyone if I break something!

I posted a cap removal pictorial in the removing the top cap thread

 

[BuzzKill]

The Juice never used to be conductive , about 1 yr ago they started showing up ?? I have NO IDEA what they are putting in them ??? we did a test with some RY4 and soaked the PCB in the juice and ran it for 2 days BUT that was a non conductive juice ! we do seal the PCB but they have from time to time gotten soaked and quit on us ( from conductive juices ) , the most common problem is juice in the switch ( that can be replaced at a low cost ) and we are looking into sealing it as well now,.

 

[jacquelyn]

I have never had a problem. I also had a tank leak on my bp... Just whip it off. Also a lot of tanks with out a 510-510 conncector have not been fitting on my bp... Not sure why.

 

[5cardstud]

As Mike and Ruppy said they're sealed but if it does get gunked up just do the alcohol bath and that will clean it out. I always put the bottom carto condom on mine when re-filling them to keep the juice where it should be. I cut one down (shorter) for filling the cartos that are in tanks.

Soldiering isn't a big deal, got all the supplies and know how to cross that bridge. I'm the person that all my friends come to saying "I broke this, can you soldier it for me?". And don't worry Ruppy, I won't blame anyone if I break something!

Soldering on these PCBs is a little tougher as they are machine soldered and the wires and soldering joints are very small and fragile. Plus you first have to get the PCB unglued and out of the tube without breaking it.

I have never had a problem. I also had a tank leak on my bp... Just whip it off. Also a lot of tanks with out a 510-510 conncector have not been fitting on my bp... Not sure why.

Center post not making contact is usually the culprit. I used to pull them up a bit but the adapter was easier.

 

[exodus454]

Really makes me wonder what in the juice is conductive, that's a little strange. If you guys ever get sealed switches together i'd love to get my hands on one.

So i guess from what i'm reading here the buzz holds up pretty well to to juice most of the time and that if you aren't a ..... about it everything should be fine!

Edit - haha since when is m o r o n censored??

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[exodus454]

As Mike and Ruppy said they're sealed but if it does get gunked up just do the alcohol bath and that will clean it out. I always put the bottom carto condom on mine when re-filling them to keep the juice where it should be. I cut one down (shorter) for filling the cartos that are in tanks.


Soldering on these PCBs is a little tougher as they are machine soldered and the wires and soldering joints are very small and fragile. Plus you first have to get the PCB unglued and out of the tube without breaking it.

That cutting the condom idea is a pretty good one, i might have to steal that.

I have done pcb soldering in the past but honestly i'd rather steer clear of it.. Huge PITA. And i'd rather not break my new buzz juuuust yet

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[BuzzKill]

Just try to avoid big spills and you should be fine !BTW a total PCB rebuild is just $35 so IF you did wash it etc., it is low cost to fix.

 

[exodus454]

Just try to avoid big spills and you should be fine !BTW a total PCB rebuild is just $35 so IF you did wash it etc., it is low cost to fix.

Good to know! $35 isn't bad at all.. Hopefully i never have to take you up on that though

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[5cardstud]

Edit - haha since when is m o r o n censored??

We don't have any ...... on notcig forum. Just those that know and the ones like you and me that learned and now know.
The only stupid question is the one not ask.

 

[exodus454]

We don't have any ...... on notcig forum. Just those that know and the ones like you and me that learned and now know.
The only stupid question is the one not ask.

Fair enough! Although I'll be the first to admit when I'm guilty of such things. I also wasn't sure if it was ecf or tapatalk that censored it.

But you're right, the only way to learn is to ask questions!

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[Bovinia]

We have some of the most knowledgeable, friendly people here in our Notcigs family, and we love sharing what we know and helping others

I'm a tinkerer by nature myself. Most people know the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." My motto is, 'If I can't fix it, it won't be any broker than it already was" LOL

 

[exodus454]

I'm a tinkerer by nature myself. Most people know the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." My motto is, 'If I can't fix it, it won't be any broker than it already was" LOL

So true!

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[TexasT]

Just try to avoid big spills and you should be fine !BTW a total PCB rebuild is just $35 so IF you did wash it etc., it is low cost to fix.

I had a rebuild done on the PCB in my old copper colored Buzz (sounds more masculine than "peach..") and it was like a brand new Buzz. I thought "this is great. Now I have two Buzz's." My copper colored one and my new blue Buzz Pro!

Then my wife took the old one off of me (she calls it "peach" colored) ... and just left me with the Buzz Pro.

Now I only have one again.

Darn it.

TT