How did you choose your SECOND everyday vape?

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evan le'garde

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How did i choose my second everyday vape ?.

Once the overall balance had come together i just got more of the same. Durable, mouth to lung RTA's.

Looking at what's available today, and seeing as most new tanks are sub ohm - drop in coil style - i don't see a way for those who choose to sub ohm with drop in coils to find something durable.

Rebuildables, those which have a build deck, are more durable and are designed to last and are more expensive.

The problem with drop in type tanks is that sooner or later the manufacturer stops making those coils.

What's needed is an industry which manufactures tanks which feature re-buildable drop in coils. Maybe a few are rebuildable !, but aren't supposed to be. The industry is far too focused on survival rather than providing vapers with durable, high quality hardware.

Even if just one or two manufacturers decided to make rebuildable sub ohm tanks, those with giant diameter drop in coils, it would provide some vapers with a choice to get their hands on some long lasting hardware.

As it is, the industry exists purely for the industry's own benefit. And what people/vapers want isn't on their (the industry) list of priorities.

So, maybe, put some serious thought into what it is you want from a backup tank.
 
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I would throw out one slight bit of caution. When I first started I did much like all the other adice here of get a second just in case. I built up a pretty good selection of stuff with duplicates. However, my vaping style and preferences have evolved, and I now have backups of stuff I no longer use.

That's not do terrible as none of it was expensive or "high end". I would remain cost conscious at the beginning. Don't rush to buy the expensive whatever because it's the best in class right now. It may very well be, but if you don't vape like that anymore you have an expensive drawer of stuff. Granted you could sell some, but as the goal is to stop smoking and not setting up an eBay shop for vape gear, keep it middle of the road until you know what you are likely to still value down the road.

Yes, buying quality is good so you're not replacing stuff that breaks every few months, but particularly at the beginning you may be replacing stuff in a few months because your taste changed. It's like just because you have a juice that tastes really good today, or even all week, you shouldn't necessarily buy 2 liters of it.

Exercise restraint. Have decent equipment that works for you that's not known for being junk with flashing lights and a manicure attachment, but don't buy a high end item off the bat. There is decent middle of the road gear that will work fine for long enough to get you away from cigarettes. Then, as you already said, you can go all shiny if you're into it, or keep it utilitarian because that's all you need to stay off smokes and you're not going to make this a major hibby/part of your life. Some of us are really into it, but not everyone else will be, and more important, don't have to be to realize the primary function of vaping, stopping you from smoking.

Now, having stated the do as I say, go get an additional line of credit and knock yourself out buying anything that catches your eye for more than 5 seconds. Yes, I'm a bad role model.
 

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Good thread Pokeroo.

Once I found a setup I liked a second one was acquired. Yeah I had other different stuff but that one unit I always migrated to was definitely going to need a backup like it.

Eventually I evolved to something more suited for my tastes and of course...a backup was purchased. I mean, we all drive vehicles with a spare tire, right?

If my primary gear (and it's backup) fail I can always revert to the former stuff. I also keep the backup handy with a different flavor and rotate back and forth to thwart off the eventual numb tongue thing.
 

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I would throw out one slight bit of caution. When I first started I did much like all the other adice here of get a second just in case. I built up a pretty good selection of stuff with duplicates. However, my vaping style and preferences have evolved, and I now have backups of stuff I no longer use.

That's not do terrible as none of it was expensive or "high end". I would remain cost conscious at the beginning. Don't rush to buy the expensive whatever because it's the best in class right now. It may very well be, but if you don't vape like that anymore you have an expensive drawer of stuff. Granted you could sell some, but as the goal is to stop smoking and not setting up an eBay shop for vape gear, keep it middle of the road until you know what you are likely to still value down the road.

Yes, buying quality is good so you're not replacing stuff that breaks every few months, but particularly at the beginning you may be replacing stuff in a few months because your taste changed. It's like just because you have a juice that tastes really good today, or even all week, you shouldn't necessarily buy 2 liters of it.

Exercise restraint. Have decent equipment that works for you that's not known for being junk with flashing lights and a manicure attachment, but don't buy a high end item off the bat. There is decent middle of the road gear that will work fine for long enough to get you away from cigarettes. Then, as you already said, you can go all shiny if you're into it, or keep it utilitarian because that's all you need to stay off smokes and you're not going to make this a major hibby/part of your life. Some of us are really into it, but not everyone else will be, and more important, don't have to be to realize the primary function of vaping, stopping you from smoking.

Now, having stated the do as I say, go get an additional line of credit and knock yourself out buying anything that catches your eye for more than 5 seconds. Yes, I'm a bad role model.
I couldn't agree more with this. For me, I no sooner had 5 KM3's, then discovered the Doggy and haven't touched them since. Not only do your preferences change the first months/years you vape, but products evolve....better stuff hits the market. I mean, right now, we're still in the steep climb of Moore's Law for vape equipment. So it doesn't make sense to me to have a drawer full of tanks or mods, just in case (but temper that thought with concern about the FDA). I'd bet that at least half the regulars on this forum have hundreds of dollars of stuff that'll never be touched again. For me, I do have stuff I'll likely never use again, but not that much.
 

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I never went out of my way to get back ups exactly, it's just that over the years I've accumulated new tanks and batteries and so on when I've fancied trying something new. As others have said there's so many options out there it always seemed a bit boring to buy something I already have one of.

I've never got rid of any of the refillable setups I've had since moving on from the cigalikes I used to actually give up with.
Even then I tend not to think of the older ones as backups but different options especially as I like both MTL and DTL vaping depending on my mood.
 

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The first and most used setup is an MTL setup. A Therion or SL class mod with a Nautilus coil tank, like a Kabuki or Triton mini. Or an MTL RTA, like a Kayfun, Berserker or Ammit.

The second is a DTL setup, a more complex choice. A Paranormal, Q mini, or Gen3 mod, with a tank able to use mesh X1 coils, like the Prince (Big) Baby, an Ello, or a Cerberus.

Some backups, embodied as Juul, Fit, Minifit, Breeze 2, hanging in the shirt pocket.

Again, it is very average. Being vape my hobby, I sometime carry more than the necessary.
 
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stols001

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The first time I quit, the shop chose for me. It was back when things were limited.

The second time I quit I chose my second setup based on ECF advice. I showed up with a sub0hm setup and I'm a MTL vaper. The forum did not steer me wrong.

Now ask me about my LAST setup which, numbers wise, oh I have NO CLUE.

Anna
 
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The reason I'm asking is that I think I've found my first really great vape, good enough that I think it's going to help me quit cigarettes completely. Now I'm terrified at the thought of it dying, not to mention that I have only one mod. So I'm curious at everyone's thought process when they were at this point in their vaping careers.
I went from 808 carto to RDA's and bought several backups. I'm happy with my first RDA setup and still vape the first RDA purchased.
 
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I began vaping in January last year. My 1st mod was a Wismec Reuleaux RX2/3 and it still works, but I don't use it anymore. I chose it because with 3 batteries this mod has enough power output capability to cope, also in terms of battery life, with chain vaping at high wattages, and, if it would turn out to be overkill for how I was going to like to vape, then I could always decide to use the mod in 2-battery configuration instead of 3 so this was the ideal choice for a "starter" mod to begin comparing different wattage ranges. My 1st atomizer was a Wotofo 25mm The Troll RDA 2, with a pair of handmade Nichrome 80 fused clapton coils to start at 80 watts. I chose it because I already knew beforehand that factory premade coils are not for me, and RDAs are easy to learn to rewick as well as are easy to switch to a different nicotine strength pretty much immediately to line up the strength with my constantly varying urge to chain vape that I was experiencing back at the time (counting drops from 2 different bottles of different nic strengths). Also, by conveniently pulling the drip tip out of the Troll RDA 2, the wicks would become visible so it was easy for me to keep them saturated instead of having to suffer the consequence of not yet being experienced enough to properly rewick too much.

My 2nd mod was a Wismec Reuleaux RX300 and it also still works (as does my identical backup of it). I chose it because, before the 1st month of my vaping career was over, I had managed to build my own pair of staple staggered fused clapton coils (no joke) by using a drill and a couple of fishing swivels so, as a result from that, I had bumped the wattage up to 140 watts and was still chain vaping just like I had been chain vaping before that, and was still using my 25mm Troll RDA 2 with this new, vastly better flavor producing (and clouds........) coil build, with the wide bore drip tip still also. The RX2/3 simply didn't have enough punch to cope with this particular coil build, i.e. the flavor performance upgrade was not there until after I moved to the RX300. It was a .11 ohms build, and was eating through a full dozen of fully charged brand spanking new Sony VTC5A batteries per day like it meant absolutely nothing at all.
 
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For the most part I have doubles of all of my pod mods. Although I had to break out my back up sourin drop after dropping it and having one of the pins somehow fly out.

My sub ohm backup is a pico with the 22mm version of the 24mm moonshot I use on my old Sigelei 100 watt. I actually found after a while that I prefer the 22mm moonshot, so as of now I have no back up for it.
 
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I buy new mods and tanks as I find deals on them. I don't really need any more hardware, I just sense the need to have backups for my backups. I continue to buy carefully and only choose those mods that fit my style and the ECF crowd uses and blesses.

I have this largely unfounded, but possible fear that one day the FDA will crack down and squash the vaping industry to help out big tobacco (to prevent states from losing more tobacco tax revenue). If that should happen, I'm golden with DIY and lots of mods and tanks.

I plan to never need to go back to smoking. I enjoy low levels of nicotine and would hate to lose vaping.
 
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