I've been using some slotted and punched boges in my tank, and I can only really get a day's use out the carto before the taste starts getting bad. They still vape really well, it's just the taste that drives me crazy. After about three days use in the tank (~10mL), I HAVE to toss the carto, it's just too much hassle to mess with...not a good enough vape to justify using it any longer.
how do YOU vape your Boba's?
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It's going to be tough. I always get the best flavor out of my BB at around 9 to 10 watts. To get an average hit of 9 watts with a VMod XL, you are going need a good high drain battery (AW IMR 18650 2000mah) and a 1.5 ohm atomizer. My advice would be to order a selection of 1.5 ohm atomizers from Avid Vapor and see which one works best for you. I suspect you'll end up with a custom HH.357 Long Barrel 1.5ohm with the 100% VG wicking option.
I vape my Bobas out of a boge 3 ohm carto at a little less than 5 volts. Never had a wicking problem aand i usually get a week per carto before the flavor and draw get crappy.
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I vape the Boba with my apollo tube at 4.5-5.5 volts on a 3ohm boge most of the time. So far, I've found that I'm replacing the carto every day. But I have a theory. When I let my tank sit upright overnight, while I sleep, it quickly becomes unvapable the next morning because it takes too much effort to take a drag - have to drag way too hard for it to be worth it. The last carto I went through lasted me like two days but I laid the carto down on its side while I slept. Actually, that last carto never did 'die' but I kind of ruined that carto's vaping appeal while experimenting - accidentally filled it with some disgusting banana flavor, got my carto's mixed up.
I've got some 2 ohm attys on the way. I'm going to try to vape boba's at around 10-12 watts on the tube soon to see how that works for me.
I've got some 2 ohm attys on the way. I'm going to try to vape boba's at around 10-12 watts on the tube soon to see how that works for me.
Old reliable is my REO Grand with HH357s at 1.5.
Now I've got something else going.
This is the Zenesis Gen Atty Hybrid. SS 325 mesh wick and kanthal coil. The depth of flavor is amazing. It tastes "cleaner" than anything I've ever used before. It rocks once you get it dialed in, and after a few days, I've got mine dialed in.
Now I've got something else going.
This is the Zenesis Gen Atty Hybrid. SS 325 mesh wick and kanthal coil. The depth of flavor is amazing. It tastes "cleaner" than anything I've ever used before. It rocks once you get it dialed in, and after a few days, I've got mine dialed in.
Lava Tube at 5.5v, MadVapes DCT with 3.0 ohm single coil triple punched carto. No wicking or flooding problems!
I tried BB for the first time 2 days ago. I don't want to forget that initial taste/sensation because it was not what I was expecting and it's not close to what I'm tasting now, so I want to document it. It was as if I was on top of a smoker at peak power and my mouth was the vent for the smoker - and the smoker was full of nuts. Quite simply, overpowering. Those were the only 2 flavors I could pick up. I am not a connoisseur of burning woods/charcoal, but it was a distinct smokey taste/smell that I've encountered before (mesquite, hickory?). I had to put it down. Being a newb, i am not really aware how much things can change in vaping. I kinda expected some kind of continuity, consistency, as with cigarettes. i figured it was't my type of juice.
Now this is where I could kick myself - I forgot what type of setup/device i first smoked it through. I am forced to vape everything right now through hardware from a starter 808 kit or the eGo-T @ 3.3V (yes, I know, bad purchase). All I can tell you is that i remember giving it a 2nd chance the next day on my eGo. Same taste and sensation, possibly slightly dulled. I force myself to vape the whole tank because i want to get back to my Gorilla Juice asap.
I do some late night browsing through videos and see numerous people smoking BB and picking up cereal, graham cracker, cinnamon, some kind of indistinguishable nut, coconut, etc. I am thinking WTF!!!!????
So I direct drip it into my USB power cig this morning and....I think I'm losing my mind. Again - WTF!!!!????
I am not going to try and describe what BB tastes like this morning. All you need to know is that it is bringing a huge smile to my face. I am fascinated and focused on my polar opposite experiences with this liquid. I fall back to my scientific posture of "what's changed?" from my beginning experience to right now. Beyond not remembering the setup that I first encountered BB's on, I know the experience is vastly different between my eGo-T and my USB power rig. Reading a lot of posts on device power lately, so that's where I'll start. The eGo-t is operating in the 3.3V range and the USB is operating at 5.1V. I am not using LR atomizers so on the eGo I am smoking BB in the 3.6 W range and on the USB rig in the 8.7 W range
I refuse to accept that any liquid can change so dramatcially in 24-48 hrs. I also think the best vendors know everything about their juice, including how long to steep it or if it needs to steep at all. If i was a vendor that had an awesome, original recipe and trying to build my brand, would I sell it prematurely? Heck no, I wouldn't. I would rather let it age and tell all my customers it's out of stock.
This is why I am starting to become a believer that power has a VERY large part to play in one's vaping experience and pleasure. It might not be the only variable the equation, but in my limited experience, I'd say it's at least squared (^2 - that type of squared).
I am convinced that there is at least as much complexity to being a juice critic than a wine/food critc. Screw FoodTV - i need VapeTV.
Veterans - please tell me if I'm wrong...
Watch out, world! Now I am into it...
A sidenote to Ben - it might be helpful to have a suggested vaping wattage next to all your brews on your website for newbs like me. But then again, that's what this post is for. It could mean the difference of a first-time customer and a long-term fan.
Now this is where I could kick myself - I forgot what type of setup/device i first smoked it through. I am forced to vape everything right now through hardware from a starter 808 kit or the eGo-T @ 3.3V (yes, I know, bad purchase). All I can tell you is that i remember giving it a 2nd chance the next day on my eGo. Same taste and sensation, possibly slightly dulled. I force myself to vape the whole tank because i want to get back to my Gorilla Juice asap.
I do some late night browsing through videos and see numerous people smoking BB and picking up cereal, graham cracker, cinnamon, some kind of indistinguishable nut, coconut, etc. I am thinking WTF!!!!????
So I direct drip it into my USB power cig this morning and....I think I'm losing my mind. Again - WTF!!!!????
I am not going to try and describe what BB tastes like this morning. All you need to know is that it is bringing a huge smile to my face. I am fascinated and focused on my polar opposite experiences with this liquid. I fall back to my scientific posture of "what's changed?" from my beginning experience to right now. Beyond not remembering the setup that I first encountered BB's on, I know the experience is vastly different between my eGo-T and my USB power rig. Reading a lot of posts on device power lately, so that's where I'll start. The eGo-t is operating in the 3.3V range and the USB is operating at 5.1V. I am not using LR atomizers so on the eGo I am smoking BB in the 3.6 W range and on the USB rig in the 8.7 W range
I refuse to accept that any liquid can change so dramatcially in 24-48 hrs. I also think the best vendors know everything about their juice, including how long to steep it or if it needs to steep at all. If i was a vendor that had an awesome, original recipe and trying to build my brand, would I sell it prematurely? Heck no, I wouldn't. I would rather let it age and tell all my customers it's out of stock.
This is why I am starting to become a believer that power has a VERY large part to play in one's vaping experience and pleasure. It might not be the only variable the equation, but in my limited experience, I'd say it's at least squared (^2 - that type of squared).
I am convinced that there is at least as much complexity to being a juice critic than a wine/food critc. Screw FoodTV - i need VapeTV.
Veterans - please tell me if I'm wrong...
Watch out, world! Now I am into it...
A sidenote to Ben - it might be helpful to have a suggested vaping wattage next to all your brews on your website for newbs like me. But then again, that's what this post is for. It could mean the difference of a first-time customer and a long-term fan.
Michael,
First off I wanted to congratulate you on winning the AveJuice Milestone but more than that, wanted to thank you for the generous thing you did for others with your prize.
I was not one of the recipients although I did receive enjoyment watching the happy people post about what they ordered. I would never dare to take advantage of your generosity when I already have a stockpile of my own which I frequently share with others as well. Now that we have that out of the way, I think that I may be able to offer you some insight.
Different voltages using various types of atties and cartoz will always result in a slight to dramatically different taste. Also having the right amount of juice in the atties and cartoz will also make a big difference as too much juice can just boil causing you to hold down the power for a longer time thus just cooking the juice. The same can be said for the complete opposite as for not having enough liquid can give you that burnt wick/coil taste which we all dread. What you want is to have a very slight gurgle when using an atty but never so much that the juice spatters and fails to produce adequate vapor.
Just recently, I have started using atomizers again after a 2 year layoff, prior to that I was a strict carto user. All that changed when I reluctantly thought I would give those expensive $22 HH.357 atomizers a try. Although I hate encouraging people to try them because of the price, I have to admit that they are far the cleanest tasting atomizers of all time. Prior to this, I tried Bauway, Boge, SLB, Joye, Hybrids, Dual coils, 306's and even some rebuildables like the Mark-T, you name it and I have probably tried it and they were all mediocre at best. Every one of those atties had their weaknesses, some were too hot, muted the flavor, had a chemical wick taste, flooded, leaked etc which is why I took the plunge and bought an HH.357.
Now please, I don't want to encourage any of you to go out and buy a HH.357 because not only is the $22 price tag somewhat ludicrous, I cannot guarantee that they will last as long as some others and don't want anyone being disappointed. I am strictly stating my opinion on what I think is the cleanest tasting atty of all.
Another thing to note, I find no changes in Boba's as time goes on as far as steeping goes but if that seems to work for others then by all means, steep your juice. Picking the right voltage/atty combination is much more important and will play the biggest varying factor. If you do not have a variable voltage device, you might want to consider getting a $45 "Kick" drop in device that regulates the watts(heat). It can work in most metal mods that take a 18650 battery, I use mine in Reo Grand. When using the Kick, you would replace your normal 18650 with a 18490/18500, the Kicks short length will make up the size difference. The great thing about this is that you can boost a higher resistance atomizer so that your 18500 3.7volt battery device feels like a 6volt one.
Please let me know if there is anything that I may have left out as I will gladly try and help you out.
ps, I gave up a long time ago trying to decipher what Boba's tasted like, all I know is that I love and cannot live without it.
Keith
This is what a Kick looks like inside my Reo Grand.
Keith,
That thing is awesome. Looks almost like you can stick in 30 ml bottle of Boba's you get in the mail and have a party. Simplicity at its best - power supply, huge tank, your kick, and what looks like a voltage regulator dial on top. Another gentleman recommended an REO to me. I am within one answer to a question in another thread of ordering a Provari, though. Who knows, maybe i'll get both and figure out which one I like best. Thanks for the kind words. Sorry to everyone for hijacking this thread. Maybe I should move that post somewhere else because it's not really a Boba's review. Here is my Boba's review:
IT'S DAMN GOOD! (disclaimer: somewhere in the 8-10W range)
That thing is awesome. Looks almost like you can stick in 30 ml bottle of Boba's you get in the mail and have a party. Simplicity at its best - power supply, huge tank, your kick, and what looks like a voltage regulator dial on top. Another gentleman recommended an REO to me. I am within one answer to a question in another thread of ordering a Provari, though. Who knows, maybe i'll get both and figure out which one I like best. Thanks for the kind words. Sorry to everyone for hijacking this thread. Maybe I should move that post somewhere else because it's not really a Boba's review. Here is my Boba's review:
IT'S DAMN GOOD! (disclaimer: somewhere in the 8-10W range)
Hey Keith - did you have to alter your reo to make it kick-patible? I see that it's the polished finish? Is that right? I had thought I that I read somewhere that the polished finish required ground wire mod mumbo jumbo... I've been growing addicted to my mini and I've got a kick just sitting in my bag waiting for more grand's to drop. It's a bit of a shame!
Madsen,
The only thing that I did was to throw the Kick in, only in some cases where a good ground cannot be made due to the anodizing process will you ever need to lightly sand the side wall. Not really a big deal since no one will ever see it anyways and the sanded spot only needs to be as big as a pea.
Michael,
The device you see there called the Reo Grand with Kick on top of the battery, it carries a 6ml bottle, uses a 18650 alone or a 18490/18500 with Kick, is a bottom fed mod that doesn't waste any juice, has a juice catch collector built in which feeds the excess juice when needed and doesn't leak. Robert, the creator of this Mod is also a strict AveJuice user and ironically, Ben is also a Reo Grand user.
You wanna talk about a match made in Heaven? Top mod paired with the top juice which why I believe that great minds think alike.
Lol, that is soooo funny. I got my younger brother into vaping and sent him your way for his first juices. I told him to start out using cartos and that he would want to get a syringe. He freaked out on me and said, "I'm not getting a syringe!!" I was like, ok then, it'll make your life a lot easier, AVE's stuff is pretty thick. He said he didn't care and would not be using a syringe. Fast forward a few weeks and I asked him if he was ready to pick up a syringe. He said he wasn't going to shoot it up. I lol'd. I was like, umm, yeah, use it to fill your cartos, genius! He genuinely thought I meant main-lining the stuff.
I was fortunate enough to grab a tobacco AVE sampler pack on the classifieds, received it today and immediately filled up a carto with Boba's cause I had to see what the hype is about. Wow, it is really tasty but I'm not yet getting the bran cereal or raisin notes that others seem to mention. I saw vanilla cola mentioned and that's probably the best way I could describe the most prominent flavor I'm getting. Still a complex flavor I can't seem to describe, and I'm sure it'll change as I continue to vape it.
Unfortunately all I have at the moment is an e-power kit (3.7v). I'm using the smoktech 1.7 ohm single coils which are great cartos for lower power devices. I'm not quite getting the TH of my other juices which are 100% PG or 80/20 (PG/VG), but the vapor production seems on point. I've got a Provari mini arriving on Monday that should definitely help to unleash the full potential of the juices I got today. Definitely looking forward to trying all of the flavors out to find my "go-to" juice. I'd like to take advantage of the sale but I'm probably gonna hold off until I can try out all the flavors on the Provari to get a better idea of what my favorites will be.
Unfortunately all I have at the moment is an e-power kit (3.7v). I'm using the smoktech 1.7 ohm single coils which are great cartos for lower power devices. I'm not quite getting the TH of my other juices which are 100% PG or 80/20 (PG/VG), but the vapor production seems on point. I've got a Provari mini arriving on Monday that should definitely help to unleash the full potential of the juices I got today. Definitely looking forward to trying all of the flavors out to find my "go-to" juice. I'd like to take advantage of the sale but I'm probably gonna hold off until I can try out all the flavors on the Provari to get a better idea of what my favorites will be.
knivesout,
The kids at AVE are pretty good about running sales regularly. Suspiciously good if you ask me. There will probably be another sale sooner than later
The kids at AVE are pretty good about running sales regularly. Suspiciously good if you ask me. There will probably be another sale sooner than later
Thanks for the info! I just got back into vaping recently and saw so much about AVE that I had to try em. I'm tempted to order now, but maybe by the time I can settle on a favorite juice or two there will be another sale. Hoping to get a little more TH and flavor with the Provari, but other than the TH, I'm very impressed so far. VG juices seem to be less "drying" to me than PG, have others noticed this? I really like that aspect to VG and think that the TH could probably be improved with some fine tuning of voltages. Is it monday yet?
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