Really...you see no resemblance?
I've never seen that type dispenser. The ones we have here look like this..
HOW has the Provari not been cloned?
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I've never seen that type dispenser. The ones we have here look like this..
That is correct. But Mike didn't design the kick or the DNA30, the protection on the ZNA30 is what he built in and he admits he copied directly off of the ProVari.
Ask David, he's the one who brought it up. I was just answering his question. And I'll watch the videos this evening, okay.
Edit: So they copied the reverse battery protection off the ProVari? Do I still need to watch the instructional video?
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You make great points. I did not buy a ProVari based on looks. For me to buy a ProVari clone, it would need to perform like a Provari. They would have had to copy the chipset. And even then, there are other chipsets that "do more".
For me, buying a ProVari was a "whole package" decision. The Fit and Finish, the consistency of vape, the rugged build, the survivability as attested by scores of users, and finally the fact that you can get it repaired.
A Chinese clone could not provide any of that.
I like what you said though....Just because it's Chinese made does not mean it's garbage. I have two HCigar Kayfun clones and they are well built and well performing.
Plenty for you is incredibly sub-par for me. Make no mistake, I was chasing after an actual emulation of a strong cigarette hit, and even then something with more kick. A .6Ω coil on a mech hits hard and fast from a fresh 4.2V down to 3.7V when it's time to change batteries. That's 30W down to 23W. No cloud chasing, and NO primer puffs and multiple mouth to lung inhales. It's a simple 2 sec burst of actual plentiful, flavorful, and warm vapor. Your NOT getting this short burst of efficient vapor production from your 5.2V on a 3Ω atty. That's simple physics.
Not everybody is trying to 10sec lung hit a volcano with sub-ohm. There's a specific type of vape experience and performance that exists with sub-ohm resistances and the wattage needed to make it happen.
The Provari will never be able to fire this set-up.
Words worth quoting again so you can digest that you actually said this.
I love you to, man.
Refer to my answer above, I also elaborate some more:
Even if you can fire a .9Ω coil on a Provari, that sub-ohm coil needs power that isn't bottlenecked at 15W and 3.5 Amps. It's a different and specific kind of vape performance you get with sub-ohm. You don't really know what anybody's talking about, because you haven't experienced it.
I'm not talking about scorching hot cloud chasing. I'm talking about an RDA with proper airflow, that produces a greater amount of flavorful vapor with a more realistic short draw, like one from an actual cigarette.
Much like the setup member zapped says he enjoys above, I was using standard resistance cartomizers in an IB tank for a good 6 months. Same as him/her; 3Ω cranked to around 5V and above. I was well on the path of investing in something like a Provari. It was fine and dandy until I tried something that IMO was substantially better.
That killed any desire to obtain a Provari for me. It simply cannot handle the options out there today, and sub-ohming/high wattage vaping is a legitimate option, not just a cloud chasing trend.
Well said Dirk, let's hope member zapped follows your advice there, agreed?
Ask David, he's the one who brought it up. I was just answering his question. And I'll watch the videos this evening, okay.
Fantastic! I really do suggest anyone with the slightest inkling watch the videos, Provari owners alilke. Mike really is a mad genius! The coating alone on his products is like something from a Star Trek flick. If Provape had had interest with collaborating with Mike I think we would have seen some really stellar devices. I think Mike mentions something about that in the video, or I'm confusing it with one of the others, anyhoo...
Fair enough, I add PG if I want more throat hit, and I don't mind holding the button down for 7 seconds. I can see why some people wouldn't want to do that. There's a lot of people out there who don't like large mods, either. Nothing against them either if they are happy with a 650 mAh eGo, let them be happy.
The ProVari isn't for everyone.
I'm still waiting for a REOVari.
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Exactly my point. You represent the majority of ProVape buyers and the Chinese business model does not service that.
Plenty for you is incredibly sub-par for me. Make no mistake, I was chasing after an actual emulation of a strong cigarette hit, and even then something with more kick. A .6Ω coil on a mech hits hard and fast from a fresh 4.2V down to 3.7V when it's time to change batteries. That's 30W down to 23W. No cloud chasing, and NO primer puffs and multiple mouth to lung inhales. It's a simple 2 sec burst of actual plentiful, flavorful, and warm vapor. Your NOT getting this short burst of efficient vapor production from your 5.2V on a 3Ω atty. That's simple physics.
Not everybody is trying to 10sec lung hit a volcano with sub-ohm. There's a specific type of vape experience and performance that exists with sub-ohm resistances and the wattage needed to make it happen.
The Provari will never be able to fire this set-up.
Words worth quoting again so you can digest that you actually said this.
I love you to, man.
Refer to my answer above, I also elaborate some more:
Even if you can fire a .9Ω coil on a Provari, that sub-ohm coil needs power that isn't bottlenecked at 15W and 3.5 Amps. It's a different and specific kind of vape performance you get with sub-ohm. You don't really know what anybody's talking about, because you haven't experienced it.
I'm not talking about scorching hot cloud chasing. I'm talking about an RDA with proper airflow, that produces a greater amount of flavorful vapor with a more realistic short draw, like one from an actual cigarette.
Much like the setup member zapped says he enjoys above, I was using standard resistance cartomizers in an IB tank for a good 6 months. Same as him/her; 3Ω cranked to around 5V and above. I was well on the path of investing in something like a Provari. It was fine and dandy until I tried something that IMO was substantially better.
That killed any desire to obtain a Provari for me. It simply cannot handle the options out there today, and sub-ohming/high wattage vaping is a legitimate option, not just a cloud chasing trend.
Well said Dirk, let's hope member zapped follows your advice there, agreed?
thank you for bringing the noise. I'll admit I was skeptical of subohm till I tried it. now I'm hooked. A well set up subohm with the right coils will give flavor like many hear couldn't imagine. My first good build blew me away, watermelon candy flavor so rich and juicy it was like I was eating a million jolly ranchers.
That being said it really isn't for everyone. Its an entirely different vape, and its frustrating at times. But speaking for myself, I can't go back.
Of course I have two MVP 2's and I love them. There's something to be said for Inexpensive, easy to replace, all in one,
I watched the first video about a week ago...They were in the waiting room/ lobby of the new store? Sitting around -both vaping on the zna30. I didn't hear him say much about provari other than they were"Battery guys"
I'll have to watch Part Deux asap.
Plenty for you is incredibly sub-par for me. Make no mistake, I was chasing after an actual emulation of a strong cigarette hit, and even then something with more kick. A .6Ω coil on a mech hits hard and fast from a fresh 4.2V down to 3.7V when it's time to change batteries. That's 30W down to 23W. No cloud chasing, and NO primer puffs and multiple mouth to lung inhales. It's a simple 2 sec burst of actual plentiful, flavorful, and warm vapor. Your NOT getting this short burst of efficient vapor production from your 5.2V on a 3Ω atty. That's simple physics.
Not everybody is trying to 10sec lung hit a volcano with sub-ohm. There's a specific type of vape experience and performance that exists with sub-ohm resistances and the wattage needed to make it happen.
The Provari will never be able to fire this set-up.
Words worth quoting again so you can digest that you actually said this.
I love you to, man.
Refer to my answer above, I also elaborate some more:
Even if you can fire a .9Ω coil on a Provari, that sub-ohm coil needs power that isn't bottlenecked at 15W and 3.5 Amps. It's a different and specific kind of vape performance you get with sub-ohm. You don't really know what anybody's talking about, because you haven't experienced it.
I'm not talking about scorching hot cloud chasing. I'm talking about an RDA with proper airflow, that produces a greater amount of flavorful vapor with a more realistic short draw, like one from an actual cigarette.
Much like the setup member zapped says he enjoys above, I was using standard resistance cartomizers in an IB tank for a good 6 months. Same as him/her; 3Ω cranked to around 5V and above. I was well on the path of investing in something like a Provari. It was fine and dandy until I tried something that IMO was substantially better.
That killed any desire to obtain a Provari for me. It simply cannot handle the options out there today, and sub-ohming/high wattage vaping is a legitimate option, not just a cloud chasing trend.
Well said Dirk, let's hope member zapped follows your advice there, agreed?
We want the Funk.....
Another good point - the itaste line is very popular like the Provari or DNA in that they use a different frequecy in their chipset than all the standard 33.3 pv's.
Natural selection at work..... Based on some of the people I am exposed to on a daily basis, human kind is due for a good culling.
Brawndo: It's got electrolytes....It's what plants crave.....
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