How long does a 30ft spool of wire last you?

[Robert Cromwell]

You're being pedantic to score some kind of point.
NO raw wire that we use will ever be unavailable or overpriced.

Could vape vendors gouge on price? Sure.
Will they when it's available elsewhere for todays pricing? Not if they're smart.

"coils", whether factory heads or rolled by some counter monkey... are not what we were discussing.

Under they rules if the wire is labeled with vape implications or it is sold by a vaping exclusive place then it WILL be restricted/controlled. Because it's intended use is for vaping. Same with batteries. If you buy batteries from Lightening Vapes or somesuch they will be restricted/controlled. Or if they are labelled as something vape. If you buy them from say Orbtronics or such they will be fine.


However if you buy say Temco wire instead of Lightening Vapes then you are correct.

Anything sold with the intent to use for vaping will be restricted/controlled.

 

[cheech226]

the regs will no doubt hurt the vape shops. but wire and batteries are used for all kinds of things, heck even my vtc mini is just a vw power supply that also reads resistance.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

the regs will no doubt hurt the vape shops. but wire and batteries are used for all kinds of things, heck even my vtc mini is just a vw power supply that also reads resistance.

Yep you will still be able to buy wire and batteries as long as it is not from a vape shop nor marked as intended for vaping.

 

[sofarsogood]

I put just 1.5% flavoring in my DIY so coils hardly gunk up so it's easy to get a couple weeks or more from a coil but I might rewick several times in between. I'll generally cut 8" of 28 guage stainless to do a build so 30' x 12" = 360" / 8" = 45 coils x 2 weeks = 90 weeks / 52 weeks = a bit less than 2 years. I bought my wire from Fasttech in a 50m spool. I think it was 5 or 6 dollars.

The problem with the "regulations" is the Federal Drugs Administration can make any rule any time for any reason. They can say that if you buy an unregulated item after the deadline, then use it for a regulated purpose, it becomes regulated and you are breaking the law.

Governments are protecting their money. That's always been more important than our health. The high water mark of public health these days is Flint Michigan.

Consider that people are being injured by loose batteries with unprotected terminals and by mishandled mechanical mods. The Consumer Product Safety Commission could issue warnings for those specific threats like they do for other products. We pay taxes for that, right? But they decline to do that because they want people to get hurt so there is a better case to make against e-cigs.

 

[DebbieNY]

Consider that people are being injured by loose batteries with unprotected terminals and by mishandled mechanical mods. The Consumer Product Safety Commission could issue warnings for those specific threats like they do for other products. We pay taxes for that, right? But they decline to do that because they want people to get hurt so there is a better case to make against e-cigs.

There was a very short (maybe 15-20 seconds) news story on one of the local NYC stations about a month or so ago that reported a guy's pants going on fire due to e-cigarette batteries...

At not one point during the story did they address how/why they caught on fire, nor did the reporter talk about how to prevent it (battery safety). All that report basically said to the general public was that 'e-cigs are dangerous!'

 

[sofarsogood]

There was a very short (maybe 15-20 seconds) news story on one of the local NYC stations about a month or so ago that reported a guy's pants going on fire due to e-cigarette batteries...

At not one point during the story did they address how/why they caught on fire, nor did the reporter talk about how to prevent it (battery safety). All that report basically said to the general public was that 'e-cigs are dangerous!'

News organizations may report a story the way government wants the story reported to earn favors, like access, inside information, etc. Corruption is overwhelmingly legal acts. It seeps into every crack and crevice and a lot of the time we are so used to it we don't reaize it's corruption. In nations with long traditions of corruption it's the most important factor in the way of any sort of progress. Corruption is a disease of civilization.

 

[Rickajho]

Under they rules if the wire is labeled with vape implications or it is sold by a vaping exclusive place then it WILL be restricted/controlled. Because it's intended use is for vaping. Same with batteries. If you buy batteries from Lightening Vapes or somesuch they will be restricted/controlled. Or if they are labelled as something vape. If you buy them from say Orbtronics or such they will be fine.


However if you buy say Temco wire instead of Lightening Vapes then you are correct.

Anything sold with the intent to use for vaping will be restricted/controlled.

And this is where the insanity begins and hopefully ends - the attempt to regulate "intentions". Good luck with that one standing up in Court challenges.

 

[sofarsogood]

And this is where the insanity begins and hopefully ends - the attempt to regulate "intentions". Good luck with that one standing up in Court challenges.

The most important elected officials we vote for are judges. If they allow prosecutors and police to get away with crap there is going to be crap. Judges are nothing more than attorneys with a steady paycheck. The German leader Bismark said the American Constitution is 'the greatest invention of men'. I agree but it's all down hill from there.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

And this is where the insanity begins and hopefully ends - the attempt to regulate "intentions". Good luck with that one standing up in Court challenges.

Ohh there are already precedents set in court on that.
with tobacco products, illegal drug stuff, etc.

 

[stormjib]

It's not going to be illegal to use any of this stuff, at least not right away. What will be prohibited is selling stuff. Possession won't be a problem.

 

[BreSha6869]

Yep you will still be able to buy wire and batteries as long as it is not from a vape shop nor marked as intended for vaping.

And this will be a huge problem for B&M survival.

If I need wire (UD/Lightening type stuff), I will gladly pay $8-10 for 30' for convenience at a B&M. Wholesale is just over $2 for this wire, so it is a hugely product segment.

Take away high margin wire, cotton, batteries and tools and you migt as well outlaw vape stores completely.

 

[TheRussianVaper]

I make coil build videos so for me personally a 30ft spool lasts for a few days. If its for clapton and not cores then 1 day.

 

[Jim_ MDP]

I make coil build videos so for me personally a 30ft spool lasts for a few days. If its for clapton and not cores then 1 day.

That sounds about right.

Educate me here... how many feet of wrap wire gets used up on one foot of Clapton?
Of various sizes of course, different core and wrap choices will make for quite a range.

 

[TheRussianVaper]

That sounds about right.

Educate me here... how many feet of wrap wire gets used up on one foot of Clapton?
Of various sizes of course, different core and wrap choices will make for quite a range.

I dont have the slightest to be honest, I just use them and the spools disappear.

 

[Jim_ MDP]

Fair enough.

 

[Robvapes]

Deffinetly can go through a lot when learning how to Clapton. But so worth it.

 

[Taowulf]

I went through 200' of 34ga making coils for myself and a couple friends recently...in two days or so.

So it depends on the wire.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Watch for sales on vape branded wire in the future. they will at some point be selling off all the wire with vape branding on it.

 

[r055co]

Depends, if you're just making basic coils I'd guess a couple of years. But I prefer Fused Claptons and do mess about with trying weird combinations. So I've got spools of 1000ft for wrapping wire and 250-500 of the core wire.

 

[Lizard King]

I bought 3 spools, each 30 feet, four months ago. I might need another spool of 28 awg next month. So....short answer - 30ft of wire lasts me a good long while.

I only make my own coils.