How long does a 60 ml last everyone?
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Just no.Regardless of the mix, the less volume of liquid inhaled, the less risk.
Your statement is only true, if you compare equal juices and vapingstyles.
As I said above and flavorings aside, temperature plays a critical role.
At higher temperatures carcinogens are created that aren't even there when vaping at lower temperatures.
So a high temp MTL vape with low juice consumption poses a significantly greater risk for your health than a low temp DL vape that ploughs through juice.
Was an opinion, just like the rest of my post...perhaps your correct and it's not a big deal. It's even possible that inhaling vapor could be totally harmless, I honestly dont know..so its definitely not something I read , but just my opinion but when I look at a thick , sweet, sticky juice compared to a thinner, less sticky liquid, I just imagine it being something that can potentially have more affects....I still feel even vaping that much juice , it's still better than smoking by a long shot, so whatever it takes to keep from smoking is best. For myself, smoking is behind me, I know for sure I would never ever smoke again, so I dont look at it as , "well I'm not smoking, so im better off anyways" but I look at it as " I know vaping is still something that's got to be affecting me somehow, so why not try and do as less as possible ". I just dont think it's a good train of thought to think that no matter how much one inhales doesnt matter whatsoever. I know most here think vaping is far less dangerous then smoking, which it is, and believe that there can be certain risks with vaping , which there can be and believe that's the way we should think about it, I dont think we should be thinking it's not a big deal to vape as much as possible. I think its important for new vapors to realize it's only harm reduction and i dont think its good for them to think it doesn't matter and that they can vape all they want without harm...
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I have that freedom all day, every day, even at work. I vape like I smoked; from the moment I wake up in the morning until I go to sleep at night, but I still only go through about 5ml a day.
Yes if your talking about vaping at dangerous heat levels, then perhaps, but if vaping average and safe margins in any style, then it simply comes down to inhaling vapor .
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Takes me forever and a day to get through 60mls, probably 1.5-2 months. I tootle puff 50mg nic salts on a 1.1ohm single coil @ 17 watts.
Sorry you misunderstood. The comment was in reference to liquids, between PG and VG and stress on the lungs. To clarify, regardless of the PG/VG ratio you use on your specific setup, inhaling higher volume of that mix carries higher risk. I believe that is obvious.
Someone a Long time ago said...
"Alle Dinge sind Gift, und nichts ist ohne Gift, allein die Dosis macht dass ein Ding kein Gift ist."
Dangerous heat levels? 200°C isn't that hot when it comes to vaping. Some people would even call it a cool vape
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What's funny about this -.- ?
After a year now, I'm returning from 80/20 to 50/50, menthol + apple/tangerine @ 0.16ohms huehue^^
If vaping wasn't bad for us, the progressives in San Francisco and Turkmenistan wouldn't be banning it, that's my motto. /s
I know there's many opinions on this and tbh we just dont know much of anything. I post my feelings here, but they can be totally wrong for sure. I just find it interesting how most other addictions are considered worse, the more you do, but not vaping.....if one smokes , eats, drinks, does drugs, etc., there is no doubt that doing those in moderation is far better then doing more, but in vaping its not really discussed or thought of like that.....who the heck knows, maybe it will be found that vaping is actually good for your health, but to me I feel the least I vape, the better and believe that is normal to feel that way....
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Really? It seems like every thread has a Sanctimonious Spencer. Nicotine is like caffeine: self-regulating. If it's not discussed enough for you, know that the thought is always in the back of our minds but we give each other the benefit of the doubt considering the alternative. Most long-time vapers have reduced their intake.
Just from a Numbers perspective...
If one Vapes around 50ml a Day, that is a little over 1 Liter of e-Liquid in 3 Weeks.
If this e-Liquid is an Average Flavored retail e-Liquid, and if an Average retail e-Liquid is made up of 12 ~ 15% Total Flavoring(s)/Sweetener, that's around 130ml of Flavoring(s)/Sweetener being Vaped in 3 Weeks.
Or about 2.25 Liters of Vaped Flavoring(s)/Sweetener per Year.
Forgetting about the Nicotine for a second, that seems like a Lot of Flavoring and Sweetener.
If one Vapes around 50ml a Day, that is a little over 1 Liter of e-Liquid in 3 Weeks.
If this e-Liquid is an Average Flavored retail e-Liquid, and if an Average retail e-Liquid is made up of 12 ~ 15% Total Flavoring(s)/Sweetener, that's around 130ml of Flavoring(s)/Sweetener being Vaped in 3 Weeks.
Or about 2.25 Liters of Vaped Flavoring(s)/Sweetener per Year.
Forgetting about the Nicotine for a second, that seems like a Lot of Flavoring and Sweetener.
Scientists can tell you the quality of the air on anywhere on the planet, what toxins and pollutants the air is made up of and measurement of each pollutant.
They can tell you exactly what the composition of tobacco cigarette smoke is and the fumes out the back of a car exhaust pipe, but vaping - "we just dont know" - Its unknowable "only time will tell"
Pretty sure its really quite knowable and its knowable right now.
They can tell you exactly what the composition of tobacco cigarette smoke is and the fumes out the back of a car exhaust pipe, but vaping - "we just dont know" - Its unknowable "only time will tell"
Pretty sure its really quite knowable and its knowable right now.
Don't know how relevant that may be as the percentage of actual flavoring relative to a flavoring's base can vary significantly. As you said, Sola dosis facit venenum.
Good luck.
Seems to me we haven't been discussing the amount of nicotine anyone uses, but rather the amount of juice.
Don't know how relevant that may be as the percentage of actual flavoring relative to a flavoring's base can vary significantly. As you said, Sola dosis facit venenum.
Good luck.
It is as Relevant as to how close one's e-Liquids Flavoring(s)/Sweeteners and one's ml's/day numbers are to what was Posted.
But perhaps More Relevant is/was the Concept that the Harm might Not only come from Nicotine. Or VG/PG thermal breakdown. Or... . Or any 1 Component of Vaping.
And whereas Many (including Myself) believe that Vaping is Significantly Less Harmful on the Population Level as compared to Smoking, that does Not mean that the Same level of Harm extends to the fringes of the Usage Distribution.
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