vaping for 1 month and 18 days
Itaste svd with kanger protank
3.7volts at 2.5 ohms
100%vg 555 liquid
Itaste svd with kanger protank
3.7volts at 2.5 ohms
100%vg 555 liquid
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We'll take that as an abstention...
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I've added two other charts (Months vs Ohms and Ohms vs Watts), and added some random noise to months and watts. This just makes it less likely that two dots will overlap making one invisible. Not foolproof, but it helps a bit.
Good Eye.
My thought is if I am going to Give the ANTZ Data Miners my Data, I am going to make it Purposely Ambiguous.
And Pru, if you are Watching, How can You Sleep at Night?
I'm puzzled - in what way do you think anyone could use this data against vaping? It's hardly a secret that people do it for years...?
Trust me.
There are some people out there who spend their Time, and in Many Cases Our Tax Payer's Dollars, collecting Data from the ECF and Forums like it. And then run the Data thru the Spin-O-Matic 2000 to Derive the Results they Desire.
And some of these People do Not Understand concepts like the Fair and Ethical use of Statistics in the Promotion of Science.
I don't doubt that's true. But I don't think this poll contains anything especially surprising, or especially useful to propagandists (of either stripe).
Your decision though.
Your decision though.
I'm sure you are Right. And my Tin Foil Hat is just on Too Tight Today.
Sorry.
BTW - Have you happen to have Read this Thread?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ecf-postings-health-impacts-e-cigarettes.html
Or perhaps this Article?
http://www.ecigadvisor.com/media-an...udy-on-ecf-posts-grossly-misrepresents-facts/
Yeah, I have come across the estimable Dr Talbot... 
You could make a case for doing a preliminary paper on that data, something along the lines of "what symptoms appear to be worthy of proper statistical analysis using a representative sample". But trying to get prevalence out of that is crackpottery of the highest order.
No need to apologise though, it's a valid concern. But if people have an axe to grind and are going to mangle data to grind it, they aren't going to care where or in how easily digestible a form the data comes... I'm sure you could get membership lengths out of the forum API if you knew what you were doing, and didn't care how valid the results were.
You could make a case for doing a preliminary paper on that data, something along the lines of "what symptoms appear to be worthy of proper statistical analysis using a representative sample". But trying to get prevalence out of that is crackpottery of the highest order.
No need to apologise though, it's a valid concern. But if people have an axe to grind and are going to mangle data to grind it, they aren't going to care where or in how easily digestible a form the data comes... I'm sure you could get membership lengths out of the forum API if you knew what you were doing, and didn't care how valid the results were.
Ummm.... Not to Wreck that Warm Fuzzy Feeling and Maybe it wasn't Veiled Thinly Enough.
But I was Being Sarcastic.
Thanks.
And just to be Clear.
I'm not Upset with You or People who want to do what You are doing here. It is Fun to Make Graphs and to Plot things. I do it All the Time.
Who I am Mad with are those who Scan the ECF looking for Data that they can Twist Around to support their Agenda. It's an Abuse under the Name of Science and or Public Health.
Unfortunately, what you are doing here Could make it Very Easy for some of these Low Life's to do what they seem Bent On Doing.
Like what though? What could the data here, in this thread, make it easy to do?
The ECF survey asked how long people have been vaping for as I recall. Are they going to publish that? Is it a secret? Perhaps we shouldn't talk about vaping at all, it sounds dangerous...
The ECF survey asked how long people have been vaping for as I recall. Are they going to publish that? Is it a secret? Perhaps we shouldn't talk about vaping at all, it sounds dangerous...
One way I might Choose to Distort or Portray e-Cigarettes Perception Negatively would be to say that using e-Cigarettes leads to People becoming So Addicted to them that they Can't Quit. Then I site Data Collected on the ECF about People who Obviously Can't Quit e-Cigarettes because they have been using them Longer that the Average period it took for Most People to Quit Analogs.
I could list Many More. But I'm sure if a Person gave it some thought, that they could come up with their Own Subversions of the Data being Collect here.
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Hey, this is your Thread so you can do what you want with it. But I look at it from a Risk / Benefit Standpoint.
The Benefit: It's Fun to see a Graph about People Vaping Characteristics. Aside from being Fun, there isn't a Whole Lot of Benefit.
The Risks: Assist ANTZ to use the Statistic Data Points in their Ongoing Battle to Restrict or Ban e-Cigarettes. Entice Data Miners to Frequent the ECF looking for "Jack Pot" sources of Data. Make a Statistical Inference about a True Population that Some People may perceive is Correct, when it might Not Be.
So to me, it's a No Brainer. There Isn't a Compelling Reason to assume the Risk for So Very Little Benefit.
But like I said, It's your thread. Do what you think is Best not Only for You, but for All of Us.
The benefits are seeing how preferred electrical characteristics change over time. There's a theory knocking around that people prefer lower ohms because of a more even temperature as well - might be interesting to see how many people go for low resistance irrespective of power.
If you think your opponents are going to have trouble finding evidence that people vape for more than a few years, I think you underestimate them. Besides which, NRT is increasingly being OKed for long-term use, and most people don't seem to be trying to push e-cigarettes as a nicotine cessation method anyway, they're pushing them as an alternative to smoking.
But sure, if you don't want to vote then that's cool by me - I was never under any illusion that this would be a representative sample.
If you think your opponents are going to have trouble finding evidence that people vape for more than a few years, I think you underestimate them. Besides which, NRT is increasingly being OKed for long-term use, and most people don't seem to be trying to push e-cigarettes as a nicotine cessation method anyway, they're pushing them as an alternative to smoking.
But sure, if you don't want to vote then that's cool by me - I was never under any illusion that this would be a representative sample.
vaping a little over 2 weeks:
2.5 ohms at 5.5 watts (around 3.8 volts) on my vamo v2 with kanger pro tank.
1.9 ohms at 6.5 watts on my vamo v2 with vivi nova tank.
2.5 ohms at 5.5 watts (around 3.8 volts) on my vamo v2 with kanger pro tank.
1.9 ohms at 6.5 watts on my vamo v2 with vivi nova tank.
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Vaping almost 3 months now.
Usually vape most juices at 7-8 watts. Tend to prefer 2 - 2.4 ohm coils.
Usually vape most juices at 7-8 watts. Tend to prefer 2 - 2.4 ohm coils.
I've been vaping for 1.5 months. 9 watts on 2.0 ohms seems to be my preferred spot so far.
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