How long have you hardcore vapers been planning for the "Vapeocalypse"?

[Thrasher]

While it may be a little harsh or unreasonable to start. Does any one truly believe the govt will willingly toss all that potential tax money in the dumpster? ( im not referring to some local govts


I remember the first ban and all the package inspections. That lasted right up till the dock unions were getting ripped for the 3-4 week delay in accepting packages. And they said f this.



How will they stop a metal tube from china? Or wire from california.. rdas will become labeled for aromatherapy,
the only issue I see is nic, and in that the issue I see is the delay in switching to whatever packaging will get around regulations.


On a side note.
Wander into an alternative smoke shop and notice all the supplies that are similar. Where is the talk of banning them? Ego is an ego, they will take mine branded for vaping, but not the ones branded for dry leaf? Wheres the bans?????

Oh thats right,, the ban came out in the 80's and smoke shops now sell turkish water pipes for tobacco. Funny how long ago they banned h=@d shops and the devices they sold, yet I pass 5 or 6 in the 5 miles I drive to work.

 

[EvilZoe]

While it may be a little harsh or unreasonable to start. Does any one truly believe the govt will willingly toss all that potential tax money in the dumpster? ( im not referring to some local govts


I remember the first ban and all the package inspections. That lasted right up till the dock unions were getting ripped for the 3-4 week delay in accepting packages. And they said f this. Lol.



How will they stop a metal tube from china? Or wire from california.. the only issue I see is nic, and in that the issue I see is the delay in switching to whatever packaging will get around regulations.

They won't throw it away. They'll take over the industry and tax the hell out of what people need. They'll also regulate it to the point of uselessness, likely on recommendation of Big Pharma because THEY are the ones who REALLY stand to lose here.

 

[Thrasher]

They won't throw it away. They'll take over the industry and tax the hell out of what people need. They'll also regulate it to the point of uselessness, likely on recommendation of Big Pharma because THEY are the ones who REALLY stand to lose here.

And thats going to stop me from picking up a box mod at the flea market how exactly? I dont buy my gear at 7-11

Funny how everyone acts like cotton strips and resistance wire were invented by vapors.

And everyone needs to get off the panic bus, raw nic has been available for ages. What do you think was used to invent the stupid things?
So they tax 5 pawns to death, it will just become aromatheripy liquids, and just like soda with caffeine, they will claim nic adds to the flavor or some bs.

if bans were taken seriously here. People on terrorist no fly lists wouldnt be spraying mobs down with automatic weapons being sold over the counter.

 

[EvilZoe]

And thats going to stop me from picking up a box mod at the flea market how exactly? I dont buy my gear at 7-11

They'll make licensing for vape businesses far more expensive and they'll tax the hell out of supplies for maintenance. They'll likely create a complicated system of hoops for ejuice makers to jump through, as well.

You can bet your bottom dollar that they'll do NOTHING that doesn't make vaping the way we've become accustomed vastly more expensive and difficult to obtain. Their main goal is controlling the industry so as to direct the profits to the main corporate interests.

 

[Thrasher]

They'll make licensing for vape businesses far more expensive and they'll tax the hell out of supplies for maintenance. They'll likely create a complicated system of hoops for ejuice makers to jump through, as well.

You can bet your bottom dollar that they'll do NOTHING that doesn't make vaping the way we've become accustomed vastly more expensive and difficult to obtain. Their main goal is controlling the industry so as to direct the profits to the main corporate interests.

Your a sucker if your paying 15 bucks an oz (30ml)for eliqiud anyways, at 2000 bucks a gal already Your going to cry over a few dollars tax? Funny everyone cries about the potential tax (without even knowing what it will be, YET all the same people have no issues when the vape shop is bending them over in the name of profits)
Maybe its time people ween themselves off 6 dollar coils that eat 25 ml an hour.

Like I said, I saw the first round ban in 09. know what happened? Nothing.

 

[motordude]

To the op, I have slowly but surely been preparing since day 1.
Nic is what the government really wants total control over.
But I just like to be independent anyway.

 

[EvilZoe]

Your a sucker if your paying 15 bucks an oz for eliqiud anyways, at 2000 bucks a gal already Your going to cry over a few dollars tax?
Maybe its time people ween themselves off 6 dollar coils that eat 25 ml an hour.

People who are clueless or don't have the confidence or ability to learn how to make their own are the ones who pay that amount and willingly.

Not everyone feels comfortable with that aspect of it all.

 

[BreSha6869]

Your a sucker if your paying 15 bucks an oz for eliqiud anyways

Maybe its time people ween themselves off 6 dollar coils that eat 25 ml an hour.

All relative, my friend.

I am building my own coils and making my own juice because I enjoy doing so....I don't NEED to.

Many people making good money could give a rats @$$ about playing around with wire, cotton, concentrated nic, flavours and PG/VG to save a few bucks a day. Not worth many folks time or effort as they just want to avoid smoking.

To say everyone that pays $15/30ml for premade juice or buys premade coils is a sucker is ignorant IMO.

 

[EvilZoe]

All relative, my friend.

I am building my own coils and making my own juice because I enjoy doing so....I don't NEED to.

Many people making good money could give a rats @$$ about playing around with wire, cotton, concentrated nic, flavours and PG/VG to save a few bucks a day. Not worth many folks time or effort as they just want to avoid smoking.

To say everyone that pays $15/30ml for premade juice or buys premade coils is a sucker is ignorant IMO.

Perhaps he just didn't think it through and tossed off the comment glibly.

There are a LOT of people who simply feel that building their own coils or making their own eliquid is a science far beyond their own understanding and they won't want to try, especially if it is all commercially available from somewhere. Probably MOST people feel that way.

I mean, back when smoking was still the thing but it was getting really expensive, the majority of people merely switched to cheaper brands rather than buy tobacco, papers, and perhaps a stuffer to make their own and save a TON. They just didn't feel up to making their own or felt they didn't have time or interest and it was worth it to them to pay more and buy premade.

 

[tj99959]

When I started vaping the FDA was involved in a lawsuit, customs was seizing shipments, and the end of vaping was looming over our heads. That was 5 years ago, and the threat has never gone away. So from the start I figured that if I wanted to continue to vape I would need to at least learn how to be "self reliant". That meant learning how to build my own mods & atomizers, and DIY my own liquids.

However now I'm like crxess, and I have enough "stuff" to last a lot longer than I'll be around.

 

[Thrasher]

All relative, my friend.

I am building my own coils and making my own juice because I enjoy doing so....I don't NEED to.

Many people making good money could give a rats @$$ about playing around with wire, cotton, concentrated nic, flavours and PG/VG to save a few bucks a day. Not worth many folks time or effort as they just want to avoid smoking.

To say everyone that pays $15/30ml for premade juice or buys premade coils is a sucker is ignorant IMO.

And its fine but to...

A.
complain about potential future costs when you have already chose the expensive path and dont even know the outcome of said future plans.

B.
rufuse to search out a cheaper alternative, NOW, while you DO still have time...(how do people today not know how to search the web?).



To me,
means you shouldnt be complaining.
About anything.
I never said you had to diy.i said your a sucker for paying way too much so stop assuming what I meant.

Long ago there was a guy on here selling SS mesh vivi nova heads. Alteratives do exist. To think everything will suddenly vanish is just overreacting I think.

Its funny, the guys in town charging 9 per 30 dont seem to have issues making plenty more juice for sale. 3 dollar tax doesnt seem as bad as adding it to a 19 dollar glass bottle version.

Sooo. Lets try and stop attacking little billys opinions and focus on the op question.

How are you preparing?.

Im not, as I made the choice to not get strung up on supplies and devices that require dependancy on outside specialty suppliers just to function properly.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

I'm down to 100ml or so, my plan is to order more some time this week

 

[WillyZee]

if bans were taken seriously here. People on terrorist no fly lists wouldnt be spraying mobs down with automatic weapons being sold over the counter.

do you even know what you're talking about?

as for the OP's question ... I am totally prepared for a vapocalypse

I am ready for nothing to be available

 

[Thrasher]

Yes I do..

A suspected terrorist.
On the USA no fly list walked into a dealer and purchased a fully automatic weapon.then killed some folks, Happened last month.

Did you know.. the terrorist who destroyed the world trade center got his drivers license and official papers weeks AFTER he flew into the building.

I cannot buy a working automatic here, but I can go online TODAY, and order every single part from one website even, and build it in my living room. Some ban huh?

Yet somehow im supposed to cower in the corner believing these same govt bodies are smart enough to stop vaping. Let me stop laughing, hold on.

Funny, they banned lead in gas. But I can buy this...

Oh right lead was banned from gas in the 70's...

... stop vaping? Please...add a few hassles? Sure, but stopping it? Ok sure.

 

[DavidOck]

When I started I felt a personal need to have enough of everything to never be without the means to vape, i.e. NOT smoke. Yep, subscriber to the "backups for the backups".

Soon became aware of all the legislative crap that would / could result in me going back to cigs, so started building my box a long time ago. Now, mostly replaceable battery mods, and while regulated is what I primarily use, a few mechs in that box. Along with 6 liters of 100mg nic in the freezer.

They'll make licensing for vape businesses far more expensive and they'll tax the hell out of supplies for maintenance.

Already started, and by fiat, not law. The County Health Department has, effectively, closed all vape tasting in the county I live in, effective Jan.1. The decree? No second hand vape. So shops have to put in expensive ventilation, and most can't afford it. If they blend their own, they need to pay a hefty annual fee and have their "kitchen" inspected - for another fee...

It's NOT just the feds, eurozone and national governments out to get us.

Their main goal is controlling the industry so as to direct the profits to the main corporate interests.

Yep, big pharma and big tobacco. British NHS is now prescribing ecigs for quitting, but ONLY ONE product from - you guessed it, BAT!

 

[Plumes.91]

Maybe its time people ween themselves off 6 dollar coils that eat 25 ml an hour.

hahaha i love it.

fact is prices will rise and the middleclass will feel the crunch.
fact is prices will rise and the middleclass will feel the crunch.
fact is prices will rise and the middleclass will feel the crunch.

sorry, had my dragon speech-to-text program running while listening to my favorite broken record. we're bound to see some nasty sht go down in the coming years, we aren't safe from sht we dont want to happen, happening. mods and rbas may be safe thru loophole, but purchasing nicotine WILL change. I cant order salvia or jwh-018 online anymore, even china refuses to ship research chems for the most-part, apart from the odd deep internet site on silk road. if they wanted to F us, they could make bottles illegal and force us into buying prefilled cartos with no skin off their backs, it'd certainly make NJOY happy. i cant predict whats gonna go down with e-liquid in bottles, but at the very best situation, the prices will go up.

 

[BreSha6869]

And its fine but to...

A.
complain about potential future costs when you have already chose the expensive path and dont even know the outcome of said future plans.

B.
rufuse to search out a cheaper alternative, NOW, while you DO still have time...(how do people today not know how to search the web?).



To me,
means you shouldnt be complaining.
About anything.
I never said you had to diy.i said your a sucker for paying way too much so stop assuming what I meant.

Long ago there was a guy on here selling SS mesh vivi nova heads. Alteratives do exist. To think everything will suddenly vanish is just overreacting I think.

Its funny, the guys in town charging 9 per 30 dont seem to have issues making plenty more juice for sale. 3 dollar tax doesnt seem as bad as adding it to a 19 dollar glass bottle version.

Sooo. Lets try and stop attacking little billys opinions and focus on the op question.

How are you preparing?.

Im not, as I made the choice to not get strung up on supplies and devices that require dependancy on outside specialty suppliers just to function properly.

What the hell are you talking about?

Read my OP. Nowhere did I say that I am paying $15/30ml or $6/coil. I am absolutely prepared not that I am overly concerned.

And yes, to call 99% of vapers SUCKERS because they spend $15 for a 30ml of juice or buy $6 coils is completely ignorant.

 

[Boden]

09'

Vapepocolips... Yeah... Happens every year about this time since we invented vaping as it exists today.

My opinion... Meh

 

[Thrasher]

Opinions man, opinions. Never once claimed you personally did anything.

relax No need to get rude and call me ignorant.....

 

[r77r7r]

As a newbie, just curious as to how long many of you have been stockpiling nic, buying tanks and coils, etc.

Things still might work out great for all of us, but this wishful thinking doesn't seem to be shared by many on ECF.

Things are looking bad globally for vapers and I am curious if many folk have been fearing the worst for years or is this a recent trend.

Cheers!

The FDA panicking has been around before I arrived here. Many runs on nic base and such. I believe we're going to go thru Something, but I don't stockpile or anything.