I'll ask John at Wizzard labs how many times he has seen runs on nic. I'm guessing around 10 by now.
How long have you hardcore vapers been planning for the "Vapeocalypse"?
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Being self reliant isa good thing, makes the Bureaucrats irrelevant, and best of all it isn't that hard.
A few wraps of resistay wire CV around a 2-3 mm screwdriver shaft. Trap the leads under screw heads of in post holes. Cut off the long leads wick with hemp dibersy, cotton or Dacron. Juice the wick and assemble and you're ready to vape.
DIY juice . get an ejuice calculator and plug in a few numbers.
Ml bottle you want to make. Mg per ml, and VG/PG ratio of your nic.
Total ratio of VG PG you want in the bottle of juice.
VG PG ratio of your flavor s. The % of flavor you want to be flavor.
After the calculator has this data it will spit out a formula.
x x mls FLAVOR, nicotine, PG and VG.
Have all of the bottles in front of you..
The way I do it is use blunt tip syringes.
I measure the flavor with a syringe for each thing. The nic syringe has a big red X on the syringe so it is never used for anything else.
I open one bottle vatva time measure the amount needed. Dumo the syringe in a container of water put the lid on the bottle and set the bottle on the floor. This way I never put something in twice.
The last thing that I put in my juice was the nic.
Put the bottles away clean all of the syringes but the nic syringe. Set the syringes to dry and clean my nic syringe so the. Other syringes do not become contaminated with nicotine.
When clean cand dry put my nic and nic syringe away separately then put my clean syringes away.
Personally avoid those places (other than the ones that also sell clothing and gag gifts then just avoid the smoke department) but that brings up a question. Can any of the dry leaf hardware be modified to handle liquid? Know that some of it existed as early as 2003. Took some computer classes at a technical college that year and first or second week noticed a young man next to me looking up vaporizers for 'other stuff'. My second thought after "this guy is an idiot" as we had just been warned not to search porn or anything illegal, was "hmm, wonder if that would work with tobacco?" Today know they can work with tobacco but that is not what we want...
For that mater I remember steam vaporizers back in the 60s. Held about a half gallon of water and the one in our house had a small built in cup for holding Vicks Vapor Rub (or something legal as my parents were not into 'other stuff') right beside where the steam emerged. 110 volts AC so it would not be portable but they existed long long before the 2007 deeming date.
I started vaping in Feb. '13. I think it was by April or May of that year that I decided I needed to know how to be more self-sufficient. I started learning how to rebuild coils, use mechanicals and DIY liquids. I built a little box mod just to prove to myself that I could do it. At the start of 2014, I was still buying some coil heads and vendor liquids, by the end of the year I was 100% DIY and rebuilding. 2014 also was my stock-up year, with emphasis on nic, but also just enough hardware that I felt I could get by on what I had if regulations got bad without much warning. 2015 was the year of coasting on what I already had and watching and waiting for the FDA to do their worst. There have been some really good sales in the last 2 weeks, so I will be fully stocked up on RTAs and RDAs as soon as the orders arrive. Over the next few months to a year, I hope to purchase a few more replaceable battery regulated mods and then I'm done.
Nic: I ordered my first liter of 100mg base on 12/31/2013, about two weeks after I quit a 36 year habit that had been at 2 PAD for well over a decade. I had pretty much given up the very idea of quitting, and experimented with vapes to see if I could perhaps cut back some. Well, vaping helped me cut back alright -- to zero over the space of four days. A couple of weeks later, I decided there was no effing way I'd ever let anyone take this MIRACLE away from me.
Having that liter in the freezer made me feel reasonably secure until the Deeming Proposal was published in the spring of 2014. Then I ordered another, and I've continued to do that every couple of months since. I now have enough nic in the freezer to last me the rest of my life, and I think any vaper who doesn't have at least a few liters in their freezer is a fool. Even if commercial juice somehow survives the FDA, you can bet your boots that state and local goobermints are gonna impose confiscatory taxes on it, see Chicago as an example.
Yes, I understand that some people have managed to reduce or even eliminate their nic consumption. I haven't, nor do I have any desire to.
Yes, I understand not everyone wants to DIY. I didn't either when I started buying nic, but I figured if push came to shove, I'd learn. What got me into it is when I discovered that most vendor juices are absurdly over-flavored, which leads to rapid coil-gunking and flavor fatigue. So I started cutting most of the juices I was buying 50/50 with unflavored. From there, it wasn't much of a leap to buy a few bottles of flavorings and add that unflavored base.
Tanks: Tanks are complicated and have lots of stuff to break or otherwise keep them from working right. By 6 months in, I had switched to bottom-feeding RDAs. They vape as well or better than any tank, and they're dirt simple. To say I've accumulated a few would probably be an understatement.
Coils: I don't buy coils, I buy spools of wire. Not because I can't afford coils; money is not a constraint for me, I just don't wish to be dependent on availability of pre-made coils. I'm not too worried about the future availability of wire or wicking material, although the I've not made much of a dent in the box of medical-grade rayon balls I got a year and a half ago, nor any of my spools of wire.
Nicotine used to be freely available as an insecticide, but it's been taken off the market for that purpose within the last few years. Besides, who wants to vape insecticide-grade nic after having using better? Nicotine is still the choke point where they will have us cornered.
Considering my fanancial situation, which most ECF regulars know, I do not have a liter of nic. However, I have brainstormed, and, I have no qualms with packing a lip with snus while vaping, should nicotine liquid become unavailable. basically the same damn thing as receiving your nic from the vape. you get the smoking/mouth fixation experience, with a lip packed w/nicotine. easy as that.
Yeah, I was like that with cigarettes. It didn't matter to me what they cost 'cause what I was spending on them (around $100 a week!) had no material effect on my finances. But cigarettes didn't have a sword hanging over them, and if they did, I would have set to learning to grow my own tobacco and finding a way to smoke it anyway.
Uhm.. You're being penny wise and pound foolish. Ponder what a liter of nic costs and how long it would last you. $50-60? How many tins of snus will that buy you, and how long will they last you?
I have a liter of 100mg nic, and a little less than 500 ml of 50mg nic. I still have more to buy since I mix for my mother in law. If she couldn't get any she would go back to smoking. She was the one who turned me onto vaping. I started May 2013, and have been smoke free ever since. I really feel sorry for the people who just cannot believe what is going to happen to us after the fda regs go through. Read it. This is for real.
That is the one thing when my husband read the fda deeming was that it looks like they are going to lump head shop accessories in it too.
That is the one thing when my husband read the fda deeming was that it looks like they are going to lump head shop accessories in it too.
I need to beef up my stock of hardware though. Going to start looking at clones and have mechs in storage because they're cheaper. I don't have a lot of money for hardware. I'm on disability. Although, I think there will be people making them and selling them black market style.
States are losing way more money feom vaping because they are not getting as much money from the master settlement agreement. Taxing vaping products does not compare to what they get from that settlement. States even take out loans on what they are supposed to get from that agreement. Billions of dollars.
I was thinking the same. I am paying about $100US for my 100mg litres of nic, so you folks in the US are lucky as $50/l is not uncommon.
If I didn't have the $$$ for nic, I would borrow it. You don't need gallons, either.
I bought 2.5l for around $250US and at 6mg strength, I have enough nic for over 40,000ml, or 80,000ml at 3mg strength. Considering I only vape 2000-3000ml a year, do the math. The only real costs moving forward are flavourings and bottles if needed. A year supply of VG/PG for me is $20-30. Peanuts.
Even if a person doesn't currently DIY and is serious about vaping, they should absolutely look into it or at least freeze some nic.
A $10-15 30ml bottle lasts me almost a week. I can afford that and would continue buying ready made juice if I wasn't worried that I might soon be paying double or triple that once taxation is finalized. I can't afford $30-50 30ml bottles and even though many on ECF are going way overboard with the stockpiling, I can almost guarantee we won't be paying $10-15 for a 30ml at a B&M in the next few years.
Just my $0.02 in any case.
I started stocking up before I was completely of the smokes last year at this time.
Hah! I never finished the carton I bought a few days before I started vaping. I ended up giving away several packs a few months later, but there's still an unopened pack in one of my desk drawers.
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