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Yeah, I've found as I decrease the nicotine, I just vape more liquid. The increased volume keeps me at about the same daily nicotine intake, just ends up varying the volume of liquid I vape each day.
I've been vaping a good number of years now, not even sure how many. No desire to stop nicotine. But next time I mix up some juice, I'm slowly increasing the nic amount. At this point, would prefer to vape less ejuice, even if the daily nic amount remains constant. Was at 3mg/day, 15-18ml. Thinking I'm probably going to end up around 4.5mg, maybe below 10ml of juice each day.
Used to mix up a liter of liquid at a time. Now, only mixing 240ml and changing the nic concentration to see how the juice consumption varies and find where I want to be. I'm fine with the nic consumption, would just prefer to be vaping less juice and less often during the day. I find with higher nic juice, I don't chain vape like I currently do, and can go longer without vaping.
Try Swedish Snus. When I get tired of vaping, I just stick a pouch in for a couple of hours. Also, this works well when I'm busy doing some chore/project where vaping would be a hassle.
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I've said this in another thread on this topic and it's true here.
The fact that we can reduce the amount and concentration of nicotine is proof that this substance is not "more addictive than [insert narcotic of choice here]."
We build tolerance to addictive substances. We need more over time, not less.
The fact that we can reduce the amount and concentration of nicotine is proof that this substance is not "more addictive than [insert narcotic of choice here]."
We build tolerance to addictive substances. We need more over time, not less.
Well this thread isnt at all what i thought it was going to be, you taking suggestions on how to debase yourself
But well, while im here...i guess i can pivot my response to what the topic turned out to be....
I started at 16mg 3.5 years ago, dropped to 12mg at about 6 months, stuck on that for eons until 2 weeks ago when i went to 8mg
My friend, my first convert, started vaping about 4 months after i did, at 18mg, dropped to 12mg 6 months later, dropped to 10 a few months later, dropped to 6 for a year and a half and then went to 0mg nic last year and continues to vape 0mg nic to this day....
But well, while im here...i guess i can pivot my response to what the topic turned out to be....
I started at 16mg 3.5 years ago, dropped to 12mg at about 6 months, stuck on that for eons until 2 weeks ago when i went to 8mg
My friend, my first convert, started vaping about 4 months after i did, at 18mg, dropped to 12mg 6 months later, dropped to 10 a few months later, dropped to 6 for a year and a half and then went to 0mg nic last year and continues to vape 0mg nic to this day....
I haven't touched any tobacco product that's smokable or chewable since I quit smoking and started vaping 8 years ago. I dropped my nic level down from 24mg juice to 3mg in the last few years and the juice consumption went up. Recently, I mixed up some 12mg and 6mg juice. Vaping the 12mg all day and the 6mg at night cut my daily juice volume in half (over the 3mg juice). Instead of two 4.5ml tanks a day I'm vaping about 1 tank.
At 12mg I can even hit my mod hard a few times and then go into a restaurant for an hour and eat without stealth vaping every few minutes.
It's not the nic that's so bad for us, but the tars in cigarettes were killing our lungs. A little nic is good for jump starting the brain.
At 12mg I can even hit my mod hard a few times and then go into a restaurant for an hour and eat without stealth vaping every few minutes.
It's not the nic that's so bad for us, but the tars in cigarettes were killing our lungs. A little nic is good for jump starting the brain.
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I started at 24mg last August. Had my first smoke free day in January. Didn't quit smoking but I quickly went to 2-3 cigarettes per week. I began to reduce my nicotine at that point - from 24 to 18 to 15. I now vape at 12mg and haven't had a cigarette for 24 days. I hope to be lower in a month or so. Zero is the goal, but I can't see giving up vaping. I smoked for way too long.
Love seeing you racking up those smoke free days, know it isn't easy.
Thanks. It actually hasn't been hard. When I started out vaping and trying to reduce, the first 24 days were much harder than what I am doing now. I still remember well the struggle to smoke only 10-12 per day. Once I was at 2 or 3 a week (since Feb.) the only barrier was psychological. And I should add that I am a total chain vaper. I am not going to worry about that now.
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when i started vaping everything 24mg,some even higher ,
when i finally made the switch i was still at 24mg,within 8 months i was down to zero and loving it
i did go back up to 3mg,just for the contrast to make the juice taste better ,nothing else
when i finally made the switch i was still at 24mg,within 8 months i was down to zero and loving it
i did go back up to 3mg,just for the contrast to make the juice taste better ,nothing else
Not so for me. The last feet hit the floor AM cig is the one I missed the most and was the hardest to stay away from.
Giving up the AM cigarettes was difficult. But I managed to reprogram myself to do just that. My final problem was a weekly meeting with a friend, who is a heavy smoker, for drinks, conversation and whatever. I finally reprogramed myself for that situation. Now it is all on me.
Same here....I'm at 24mg after 7 years vaping and have tried lower, but not satisfying. For me I will vape till I die or quit from 24mg
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If the cigarette urge hits, keep some 24mg around for those times. Higher nic is much better than buying a pack.
For me, the hand to mouth habit was worse than the soothing effects of smoking. Adjusting nic level to satisfy my nic needs was key in staying off the cigs. I smoked my last one in early 2011 after dropping from 2 PAD to about 6 cigs a day in early 2010. I could have quit completely in the first month or two of vaping, but I thought I needed a cigarette after meals or with a cup of coffee. I was wrong! I could have quit those last few cigs shortly after starting to vape 24mg juice.
I just didn't know how easy it would be as long as I was vaping high nic.
Agreed, it was much harder for me to go from 25-30 cigarettes per day to 10-12 than it has been to go from 2-3 per week to 26 cigarette free days. And I am not even vaping super high nic - I am at 12mg. In my case, I was dual using for 9 months. But my cig use got so low that in the end all I had to work out was the psychological dependencies.
Nicotine isn't the bad part about smoking. The dangerous stuff was the tars and hundreds of chemical products of combustion we inhaled. I don't worry about nic levels so much. I vaped 24mg juice for years after quitting and starting to vape. Taper off when you no longer think about smoking. I wouldn't do it immediately.
I started to taper off the nic in year 3 of vaping. Shortly after that I began to DIY my own juice and could control the nic level. I experimented and dropped from 24mg down to 3mg and stayed there for a couple of years. Now, I'm vaping 6mg at night and 12mg mixes in the day and have reduced my daily juice consumption to half of what I vaped at 3mg.
Find the sweet spot in nic that keeps you off the cigs. It's different for everyone. You'll find the point where you vape lower nic levels, but go through more juice to satisfy the need for nic. The optimum nic level is where you are satisfied and aren't constantly hitting the vape to stay there.
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Like building coils!
I started high, way back in the day, like 24mg on the cigalikes of 2010. I quickly went down in strength, then down even more as the technology advanced...eventually went down to 0 nic but wasn't satisfied. Currently I DIY mix 2-3mg {with a small bottle of 6mg for some of my older low powered gear) and this seems to be my sweet spot.
Harm reduction such as vaping vs cigarettes doesn't necessarily mean elimination. If vaping at 0mg, or 3mg, or 40mg keeps you off cigarettes then that's still a big win.
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