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How much juice do you vape/day? How to calculate vaping to smoking(nicotine intake)?

Discussion in 'General E-Liquid Discussion' started by HighlanderNorth, Aug 27, 2012.

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  1. HighlanderNorth

    HighlanderNorth Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2012
    Mid Atlantic USA
    There are 2 questions here:

    1. How many ml's of e-juice do you vape on average per day?

    2. How do you calculate/compare nicotine intake when still smoking analogs vs. how much nicotine you are "consuming" through vaping each day?

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    I used to smoke L&M menthol because they tasted just as good as Newport or Marlboro menthols as far as I was concerned, and they only cost about $4.40 - $5.10 per pack vs. $6.25 - $6.75 per pack for major brands. The L&M 100 menthol I smoked come in somewhere around .9-1.0mg nicotine, but is that per cigarette? I rarely would smoke an entire cigarette, unless I had gone without a smoke for quite a while, but usually I smoked between 1/2 - 3/4 of a cigarette, so on average it was probably 3/5 of a cigarette each time I smoked. I smoked about 15-20 cigs per day for over 20 years.

    On Thursday, the first full day of vaping for me, I only used 1ml of e-liquid in my Ego-T all day. But then in the past couple days, I've been using about 2ml per day. But I have noticed something that wasnt mentioned in the Ego-T manual. The little cap on the end of the 1.1ml plastic tank will start to leak into the atomizer, and down onto the battery, threads, etc. Thats because the little cap is punctured by the hollow spike at the top of the atomizer inside the cone, and after you've removed and replaced the tank a few times for filling, the hole in the cap becomes enlarged and e-liquid then leaks outside of the spike and down through the atomizer, often flooding it out.... Thats has caused some of my extra e-liquid use. But I still think I am using about 1.5 - 2ml/day now. So I have now ordered 40 more caps.

    I vape 12mg/ml nicotine ratio in my e-liquid, and the LAST thing I want to do is to increase the amount of nicotine I'm using each day vs. how much I used when smoking. If necessary, I will drop my nicotine level in my e-liquid to 8-10mg/ml.

    Some seem to vape like 4-6-8-10ml per day, and I think I've seen some using 18-24mg/ml nicotine in their e-liquid, so thats a WHOLE LOT of nicotine! Thats way more than those people used when smoking I bet.....

    So whats you daily e-liquid use, and whats your nicotine ratio now versus when you smoked? How do you calculate that?
     
  2. Caridwen

    Caridwen ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 15, 2011
    This might help a little

    Beginner Tutorial - 2

    Short answer, no real way to determine. We don't know precisely how much we absorb vaping. We absorb nicotine differently vaping.

    You just need to listen to your body. We're all smokers/ex-smokers we know when we've smoked enough. Same with vaping.

    Quote from tutorial

     
  3. Caridwen

    Caridwen ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 15, 2011
    Different devices (high voltage/vv mods, LR cartos/attys) use more e-liquid.
     
  4. ninfreak

    ninfreak Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 18, 2011
    burkesville, kentucky
    i use 15 on a low day....my zenesis eats juice like crazy. on an ego with a stardust i may go through 5 mls in a day....shows you the gap in vaping performance lol.
     
  5. damthisisfun

    damthisisfun Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2012
    Katy, TX
    I wonder the same thing. I came across the following:

    https://www............/shopping/shopcontent.asp?type=density

    I agree there is no way to accurately state how much nicotine is absorbed via an e-cig. I used to smoke a pack of Marlboro lights/day. Based on this article I was getting abt 14mg nico per day. Currently I vape 18mg of e juice.
    Assuming the low end of 50% absorption, I get 18(mg/ml e juice) * 0.5 (50% absorption) = 9 mg/ml of e juice.
    14 (mg of analog nico) / 9 mg/ml = abt 1.6mls - this is the amount I should vape.

    I vape between 2.5 - 3 mls per day. No wonder I sometimes feel a little dizzy and have palpitations - am oding. Need to either cut down or use 12mg juice.......does any of this make sense? Or am I totally off......
     
  6. HighlanderNorth

    HighlanderNorth Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2012
    Mid Atlantic USA
    If thats true, and we only take in about 50% of the nicotine in e-liquid, and I used to intake about 14mg of nicotine from smoking per day, and I am now using about 1.5 - 2ml per day of 12mg/ml, then I am getting approx. 9 - 12mg per day, so I am a little lower than when I smoked, which is where I want to be...
     
  7. damthisisfun

    damthisisfun Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2012
    Katy, TX
    it is all a theory - but I know I was definitely oding - have ordered some nico free e juice so I can vape more.....lol....
     
  8. HighlanderNorth

    HighlanderNorth Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2012
    Mid Atlantic USA

    Thats a great idea. I have found a flavor I like, and I am tempted to vape too much of it, so I should do the same! If you change your mind and need some more nicotine, you can always add a little, or you can mix the no-nicotine liquid into some 18mg nicotine liquid to weaken it some.
     
  9. damthisisfun

    damthisisfun Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2012
    Katy, TX
    FYI - I read somewhere or one of the veterans here told me (cant remember which - getting too old) - some 0 mg nico juices dont have a lot of flavor or TH - depending on what % PG/VG and the device u have.......but then again like u said - add a little 18mg to 0 mg and vapeON..........lol
     
  10. Caridwen

    Caridwen ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 15, 2011
    Zero nicotine e-liquid is all flavor. That's pretty much all it is except for base. You won't get the desired TH that you would with e-liquid with nicotine.
     
  11. damthisisfun

    damthisisfun Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2012
    Katy, TX
    See I told ya I was getting old - lol - it was no TH - thank you Cari
     
  12. Caridwen

    Caridwen ECF Moderator Senior Moderator Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 15, 2011
    New members are often overly preoccupied with the nicotine strength. It's natural, it's a new endeavor. Unfortunately this is why many people have problems quitting cigarettes. It's not satisfying the urge.

    Better to vape higher in the beginning to transition off cigarettes. Most people naturally drop a few levels after that without trying. As I said, if you listen to your body you'll be fine. It's also very much easier to lower nicotine than increase it.
     
  13. HighlanderNorth

    HighlanderNorth Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2012
    Mid Atlantic USA

    I'm actually surprised at how easy it's been to quit smoking this time(I've quit 2 other times since the 80's). I am not Jonesing for a cigarette at all, and I'm not eating all the time, or depressed. I've tried this with nicotine cessation devices before like Nicotrol inhalers, but I still obsessed over wanting a cigarette. Not this time......

    Plus, I came into this thinking I was going to need the maximum nicotine levels, and even bought some e-liquid with my first order that was 36mg/ml! But I found out quickly that 12mg/ml is where I need to be, but even so, I still feel a bit dizzy and have gotten temporary headaches when I took too many vapes of 12-18mg e-juice. Too many vapes for me can be just 4-6 in 5 minutes too! Not always but some times thats too much.
     
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