How safe do you think Ejuices really are?

[Izan]

I have been trying to put it in perspective.
When I was a RYOer, I can remember handling pound and pounds of tobacco.

By contrast, I vape at most 5 ml a day, about 1.8L MAX per year.
Less then a 2 litre soda bottle full PER YEAR. I don't think I consume anything else in such small quantities. meh...
Okay.. I feel better now.
Many Many many more important things to worry about.
(like my gorram 91%)

Thanks
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[vape-addict]

Same here brother. I still can't believe what people pay for vendor juices. It's mind boggling.

I keeps vendors in business e-juice is there highest profit without them you would have to buy your hardware from health cabin or fasttech and wait weeks to get it.

 

[JulesXsmokr]

the question was a "burning concern of a question" - sounds like, and sorry if I am wrong, the OP already believes that the ejuice makers are not up to what they think is their standard.
Professional - well, they have a business, and some sort of license for what they are selling and producing. (so, in a broad sense, yes)
Quality controlled lab ? sounds like you have to have gov't. inspectors there to constantly watch a batch being made. Unrealistic demand for mixing already FDA approved ingredients.
A clean acceptable food prep area, approved ingredients, and subjectable to spot inspections, like what restaurants go through is probably the only thing to worry about. This is not rocket science here.

 

[AgentAnia]

Have you ever seen the inside of a tobacco barn or a cigarette manufacturing plant? Visited a food processing plant? (As a previous poster pointed out, look up the FDA-approved parts per million of rodent feces and insect parts in the packaged food you buy.) Have you ever bought a jar of homemade jam at that lovely little country store? Did you inspect the kitchen it was made in?

Kudos on switching from smoking to vaping. But get real!

 

[jimbol]

While I don't go inspect labs (yep, looks like a lab to me...); I do try to buy from folks like Halo, Johnson Creek, and others that maintain lab conditions. I look for reviews that reassure me of this and I appreciate seeing the ingredients (albeit without the proportions) listed on the web sites. As for the inhaling; well like others I started smoking over 4 decades ago so I've inhaled a lot of junk. When I walk out from my office I’m inhaling all kinds of stuff from cars to factories so I’m not too concerned about inhaling pharmaceutical grade PG/VG and other fluids.

 

[Train2]

After my snarky China post, I figured I'd return with something more helpful to the OP.
If you are truly concerned with cleanliness and health procedures of your juice vendor, you can start by shopping with a vendor that's a member of AEMSA. It's a juice vendor organization that promotes clean/safe procedures and all the members have agreed to what I consider very well thought out high standards.
You can review the standards, and see all the members on the AEMSA website. There are about 15 vendors that have gone to the trouble to become Certified - kudos to them.

 

[john333]

I DIY and it does make me feel I have better control over what goes in my eliquids. By the way, the best tobacco flavors in both taste and purity comes from Hangsen, a Chinese Company. Their manufacturing facility is state of the art and considered the best in the world. And no I wont argue about it. It's true.

 

[sachavaca]

I mix my own and no I dont do it in a sterile lab, taste fine too me and it is safer than smoking. you do have the option of stopping cold turkey or purchasing Pharmaceutical nicotine delivery system if thats what you want.

 

[snork]

After my snarky China post, I figured I'd return with something more helpful to the OP.
If you are truly concerned with cleanliness and health procedures of your juice vendor, you can start by shopping with a vendor that's a member of AEMSA. It's a juice vendor organization that promotes clean/safe procedures and all the members have agreed to what I consider very well thought out high standards.
You can review the standards, and see all the members on the AEMSA website. There are about 15 vendors that have gone to the trouble to become Certified - kudos to them.

And even then, if you really want to know, really deep down beyond a seal made out of colored pixels downloaded from the Internet, you'll need to visit them.

 

[bribo54]

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[AngiBe]

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Thx for the info..which ecig, juice, is it a cart, clearo,volts, nic level and so forth were tested? Which cig/brand? Regular, lights, menthols, filter, non filter? Passing out this kind of info is great, but would be more effective with all variables used.

I don't think anyone is doubting cigarette smoking is worse, but questioning how safe vaping is and can we all make it even safer so Big Brother/BT don't take control over it.

 

[sonicdsl]

Join CASAA.... CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association

Tons of information there, as well as an action network devoted to furthering Tobacco Harm Reduction.

See the links in my signature for their forum and how to join.

 

[FeistyAlice]

In general, my thinking is that it's probably not quite as safe as breathing fresh air, but considerably safer than cigarettes. And that's probably still true even if one particular ingredient turns out to be carcinogenic.

Not singlinly out you but the words "fresh air." Air being "fresh" and long term safe is questionable in most heavily populated modern societies. Uraban, suburban, heavy traffic air is not what I consider "fresh air." Off gasing of building products and furnishings and cleaning products and other products and insectices and herbicides, etc., etc., are some of the things that most peeps fail to consider when speaking of "fresh air."

I'll take my chances and feel pretty confident that my vapors are many times safer to inhale than what the majority of people, in "industrialized" countries/areas, breath in round the clock.

On of my pet peeves is complete banning of public smoking in urban areas outside. (I haven't smoked in 3 yrs.) Gets my goat when someone living near a busy street or highway, who opens windows to let "fresh air" in, freaks when someone smokes, a few feet from door, outside the building they work or live in. Crazy.

Feisty Alice



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[Smokachino]

Not singlinly out you but the words "fresh air." Air being "fresh" and long term safe is questionable in most heavily populated modern societies. Uraban, suburban, heavy traffic air is not what I consider "fresh air." Off gasing of building products and furnishings and cleaning products and other products and insectices and herbicides, etc., etc., are some of the things that most peeps fail to consider when speaking of "fresh air."

I'll take my chances and feel pretty confident that my vapors are many times safer to inhale than what the majority of people, in "industrialized" countries/areas, breath in round the clock.

On of my pet peeves is complete banning of public smoking in urban areas outside. (I haven't smoked in 3 yrs.) Gets my goat when someone living near a busy street or highway, who opens windows to let "fresh air" in, freaks when someone smokes, a few feet from door, outside the building they work or live in. Crazy.

Feisty Alice



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LOL! You beat me to it. I'm near Dallas, too, and don't know if I've ever breathed "fresh air".

I make my own juice now, but was honestly never worried about vaping juice from any vendor. IMO walking my dog outside is more hazardous.

 

[FeistyAlice]

LOL! You beat me to it. I'm near Dallas, too, and don't know if I've ever breathed "fresh air".

I make my own juice now, but was honestly never worried about vaping juice from any vendor. IMO walking my dog outside is more hazardous.

Howdy neighbor. I'm out in the woods near Joe Pool Lake surrounded by State Park, City and County and Audubon Habitats, 25 miles from Dallas, 30 from Fort Worth; some of the cleanest air in the metroplex, especially filtered somewhat by the trees BUT when winds are coming from south a lot of stuff comes in from the cement factories a few miles south of us. I take some solice in the fact that our home and furnishings are old, little carpet to off gas and what we do have is very old, we don't use insecticides, herbicides, and harsh products inside or out, and most cleaning products are like vinegar and baking soda or relatively "green" and mostly free of fragrances and additives that are allergens or worse. The house stays pretty closed up and we have all kinds of air filtering but I do spend a lot of time outside.

When I walk into most "clean" houses I usually start itching and develop headaches from furnishings and products used. My number one migraine trigger is frangrances and odors so I'm really sensitive to many thigs most peeps don't even think about. Many flavorants, foods and vaping huices, swell up my lips, tongue, and throat so our juice range is very narrow.

DH and I both are in medical field, M.D. and RN. We know as much about the safety of vaping as the average person but we are also armed with decades of personal and professional knowledge to make some sound guesses about safety of vaping especially when compared to all the poisons people breath in and ingest or absorb from daily use af just about every product in our modern lives. When peeps ask us our opinion we tell them we figure the thing people would be most immediately affected by is not the carrier or nic but flavorants. Long term affects of PG and VG, any bodies guess, at this point, but most likely less harmful than the majority of thing in our lives.

Benifits, physical and psychological, nic and the act of vaping, are positive, in many cases. Health is not totally dependent on physical well being.

Feisty Alice

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[supermarket]

Are you asking if they are "safe" or "consistent?"

As long as the products they use to mix their juices are of good quality then it shouldn't be an issue...unless they are mixing it in a toilet or something

And some of these "Made in America" juices are incorrect..why..all the components they used to "mix it" came from China shipments...

Honestly would like to know if they got their Nicotine concentrate made in America...or "imported to America" to an American company from a Chinese distributor

Not me....I'm perfectly content as long as the nicotine is quality nicotine. Same goes for anything I order.

I DON'T , however, want to see someone label something as "Made in the USA" unless it TRULY IS, MADE IN THE USA (not just MIXED in the USA). I agree with you on that.

 

[degnr8]

Ania said (reply with quote not working)Have you ever seen the inside of a tobacco barn or a cigarette manufacturing plant? Visited a food processing plant? (As a previous poster pointed out, look up the FDA-approved parts per million of rodent feces and insect parts in the packaged food you buy.) Have you ever bought a jar of homemade jam at that lovely little country store? Did you inspect the kitchen it was made in?

Kudos on switching from smoking to vaping. But get real!Or eaten at a restaurant?? I used to be a chef, I know. I'd be much more concerned about what's in the food somebody else prepared for me than my juice. Sometimes ignorance really is bliss

 

[wv2win]

For such a "burning question", the OP, with only 9 posts, has still not responded to any reply in this thread. That seems strange.

 

[degnr8]

Okay, apparently the edit doesn't work either. Wanted to add on the subjective of chemical additives in analogs the reason for formaldehyde isn't to regulate the burn as I always assumed. It's because sometimes rats and snakes don't get out of the tobacco before it goes into the hopper and they don't want the meat rotting in your cig.

 

[Butters78]

For such a "burning question", the OP, with only 9 posts, has still not responded to any reply in this thread. Now why would that be the case???

It's a troll.