How should a clearomizer hit when working properly?

[Tebo]

I've made several threads & nobody seems to know the answer.

Ok so 2 nights ago and ever since I started vaping my stardust has worked like a charm. Huge hits that really hit the throat, couldn't take more than a few seconds puff or it would be too big. I'd caugh. I've been a heavy smoker for years and it was really similar throat hit feeling.

Ok so I cleaned my stardust v3 for the first time. I followed a youtube video. After talking to several of you it's possible there mightve been the slightest bit of water. Anyways after cleaning my stardust I dry burned and refilled, it was not hitting as strong, after about 5-10 minutes flavor came back but the vape was thinner and the throat hit almost non existant, basically about the same power puff as a Blu. BTW I am using several Ego C Twist batteries.

Ok so I figured "well, I ruined that stardusts coil" it was okay because I had a never before used Stardust AND a never before used kanger T2. I was going to just learn from my cleaning mistakes. BUT then.. the vapor in my other never b4 used stardust was about the same as the 1 I had just cleaned!!! Where did the strong vapor goooo?? So I figured well maybe that 1 was just faulty... so filled up my Kanger & it was WEAKER than both my stardusts vaping. The smoke was thicker on the kanger tho?

So I let my stardusts dry out after I finished the juice, and I mean 100% no water left. But they still hitting weak.

TO SUM IT UP, before I cleaned my stardust it hit amazing with strong vapor and good throat hit. Now all 3 clearomizers hit weak.

So some of you suggested perhaps my batteries are pushed in, or my stardust connectors are pushed in. I figure anything is possible at this point bought a set of screwdrivers (so I could get the little 1 to push battery up) & some needle nose pliers for the stardust connectors. After fidgeting & making sure both of them are where they should be, it hits exactly the same.

I have ordered 2 more stardust, 4 coil replacement heads, and a viva nova.. now if these don't work when they arrive Friday I will be absolutely stumped. I'd really like to know if any of you have experienced stuff like this... and more importantly HOW DOES YOUR CLEAROMIZERS WORK WHEN THEY ARE WORKING PROPERLY?? Can you take 10-15 second tokes without caughing like how all of mine are now? Or should they be strong enough on an Ego Twist battery where that big of hit would making you caugh hard.. like mine usto?

 

[skelley]

TH has to do with juice and air flow in the device.
Using a vv batt can make a juice have more or less TH much the same way as adjusting to taste. So if you are using the same juice and the same voltage as before, then I would say the last variable is air flow.
More air = less TH and vice versa. In some of my rebuildable, if I place the air hole close to the coil, I get more vapor & less TH. The opposite is true when I move the air hole farther away from the coil. Less vapor & more TH.

From your statement, it sounds as though something may have been reducing the air flow in your device. Maybe a piece of wick or something.
Air flow is easily controlled on my T2's as there are 2 holes in the skirt. I can increase TH simply by putting a piece of tape over one of the holes. But I actually like the vapor and flavor production so I control the TH with my DIY juice.

 

[Tebo]

TH has to do with juice and air flow in the device.
Using a vv batt can make a juice have more or less TH much the same way as adjusting to taste. So if you are using the same juice and the same voltage as before, then I would say the last variable is air flow.
More air = less TH and vice versa. In some of my rebuildable, if I place the air hole close to the coil, I get more vapor & less TH. The opposite is true when I move the air hole farther away from the coil. Less vapor & more TH.

From your statement, it sounds as though something may have been reducing the air flow in your device. Maybe a piece of wick or something.
Air flow is easily controlled on my T2's as there are 2 holes in the skirt. I can increase TH simply by putting a piece of tape over one of the holes. But I actually like the vapor and flavor production so I control the TH with my DIY juice.

I am using the same juices as always yes.

I will try to tape a hole for the kanger and see what happens. If it is air flow, how do I stop it on the stardusts?

 

[Kyi]

Clearos are known to be a little finicky... Stardusts are pretty unpredictable as a whole and I think many would agree that they hit good at first, but over time their quality dwindles a lot. The TH isn't there and the flavor is muted. It's really too bad because they look awesome and I like their smaller capacity.

 

[Debadoo]

On the stardust, you can try sticking the tip of a toothpick into one of the airholes, and breaking it off, but it can be difficult to get back out from what I've heard. I've never done this, because I like the draw.

Are you still taking very short draws on the stardust? Try taking a longer draw perhaps. I use a vivi nova, don't care too much for the stardusts, but mine always have the same th, draw etc after cleaning and refilling except for just the first few minutes right after the cleaning.

 

[Tebo]

On the stardust, you can try sticking the tip of a toothpick into one of the airholes, and breaking it off, but it can be difficult to get back out from what I've heard. I've never done this, because I like the draw.

Are you still taking very short draws on the stardust? Try taking a longer draw perhaps. I use a vivi nova, don't care too much for the stardusts, but mine always have the same th, draw etc after cleaning and refilling except for just the first few minutes right after the cleaning.

where are the air holes on the stardust? sorry I have a Stardust V3.. like I can see the 2 air holes in the skirt of the kanger that other buddy was saying in the post above. But I am unsure where the holes are in the stardust

this really sounds like the best possible solution of all I've heard, thanks alot guys

 

[Debadoo]

oops....sorry......that's my mistake. Reckin ya can't do the toothpick thing on the stardusts. I just looked at the one I have. The airholes are the little rectangle shaped things at the bottom of the skirt.

maybe tape or silly putty lol Sorry bout that

 

[Tebo]

oops....sorry......that's my mistake. Reckin ya can't do the toothpick thing on the stardusts. I just looked at the one I have. The airholes are the little rectangle shaped things at the bottom of the skirt.

yeah I see those little rectangles, I'm thinking cleaning my 1 stardust couldnt of affected the air rectangles in anyway, ya know?

I would like to know how a stardust or kanger is spose to hit, because I'm very confused ATM. Are clearomizers spose to hit weak an wimpy in the TH or are they spose to be strong like how mine usto be. Was my stardust just super strength b4 I cleaned it?

In all honesty its just not satisfying at all how it is now, I can go thru 5ML of juice without satisfaction in a day ATM.. an b4 my stardust hit weak I could only do like 2ml a day

 

[Debadoo]

Am I understanding that you started vaping 2 days ago? If that's the case, it could be that you just got used to the TH. Totally didn't mean to confuse you on the air hole part. I really don't think the air hole has anything to do with it or it wouldn't have hit so strong before. But since the ones you've never used aren't hitting hard either, it's possible that you just got used to it if I am understanding right that you've been vaping for 2 days.

Stardusts do tend to mute flavor and TH for a lot of people. However, I don't think one cleaning would just totally knock out th that dramatically.

Had the th dropped off before you cleaned it, or was it still hitting hard? If it had dropped off and that was why you cleaned and dryburned it, then it's possible there is still maybe one coil that is a bit gunked. Did you rinse the coil after dryburning? Sometimes what you burn off will still be attached to the coil and rinsing helps get it off.

If the th was still very strong just before you cleaned it, and now it's all but gone, I really don't know what to tell ya. That seems very odd to me. I know coils can pop, but since I've never had this happen yet........ what I don't know is if part of a coil can burn out. Did you see all the coils glowing on the dry burn? No one can really say how any clearo is "supposed to hit" because it's too subjective. What might be a strong hit to one person may be a weak hit to someone else. It also wouldn't explain why your th just disappeared from a cleaning.

 

[Tebo]

Am I understanding that you started vaping 2 days ago? If that's the case, it could be that you just got used to the TH. Totally didn't mean to confuse you on the air hole part. I really don't think the air hole has anything to do with it or it wouldn't have hit so strong before. But since the ones you've never used aren't hitting hard either, it's possible that you just got used to it if I am understanding right that you've been vaping for 2 days.

Stardusts do tend to mute flavor and TH for a lot of people. However, I don't think one cleaning would just totally knock out th that dramatically.

Had the th dropped off before you cleaned it, or was it still hitting hard? If it had dropped off and that was why you cleaned and dryburned it, then it's possible there is still maybe one coil that is a bit gunked. Did you rinse the coil after dryburning? Sometimes what you burn off will still be attached to the coil and rinsing helps get it off.

If the th was still very strong just before you cleaned it, and now it's all but gone, I really don't know what to tell ya. That seems very odd to me. I know coils can pop, but since I've never had this happen yet........ what I don't know is if part of a coil can burn out. Did you see all the coils glowing on the dry burn? No one can really say how any clearo is "supposed to hit" because it's too subjective. What might be a strong hit to one person may be a weak hit to someone else. It also wouldn't explain why your th just disappeared from a cleaning.

been vaping for over a month. 2 days ago is when I cleaned the stardust.

 

[Tebo]

anyways I put tape over an air hole on the kanger and it didnt really do jack...

then I put tape around both holes and it basically doesnt give you a hit, if that is the idea of getting a better throat hit.. uhh nobody would vape TBH

horrible suggestion lmao

 

[skelley]

Did I say both holes?
I offered a suggestion as it has worked for me, but hey feel free to solve your own problem then.

 

[Tebo]

apparently kangers suck, if you want throat hit, so I'm going to chuck mine when I get my new things, covering 1 hole doesnt do anything except give less smoke

I appreciate all help. But it doesn't seem like anyone knows what a clearomizer should hit like. Some ppl say all clearomizers hit weak on here, I know that's not the case. My only conclusion is that 50% of most clearomizers wont hit strong cus they werent made properly, 50% will cus they were made right. Mass production, .... happens. I guess

 

[KarenB]

I am using the same Stardust as you are. I have cleaned mine several times now and the TH does diminish over time. I attribute that to use and wear and tear on the coil and it simply doesn't heat up as well over time. I cleaned mine out again last night and did a dry burn and let it sit. I filled it with juice and the initial hits were HORRID (very light, very little vapor production). I let it sit over night with fluid in it and tried again this morning. Much stronger throat hit and vapor production. I attribute this to wicking (letting the juice soak up into the wick). No, it doesn't hit as strong as it did when it was new, but I am getting good vapor production, flavor and throat hit.

I have a CE5 clearomizer which is rebuildable. I cleaned off the wicks last night, dried, dry burned and started vaping again on that one immediately. No diminished TH or vapor production but again, it took a few tokes before it was doing it "correctly" again.

I think that when it comes to cleaning this stuff out and re-using we need to be patient. We have expectations of how something is supposed to work and when it doesn't we become impatient. Let your Stardust sit with juice in it over night and use one of your backups (always have back ups) and see if it doesn't hit better in the morning. I also know that Stardusts are kinda finicky when it comes to thicker juices so try thinning it out with some plain PG (some say use distilled water but I don't know how that would work since water seems to hinder the wicking process).

HTH.

apparently kangers suck, if you want throat hit, so I'm going to chuck mine when I get my new things, covering 1 hole doesnt do anything except give less smoke

I appreciate all help. But it doesn't seem like anyone knows what a clearomizer should hit like. Some ppl say all clearomizers hit weak on here, I know that's not the case. My only conclusion is that 50% of most clearomizers wont hit strong cus they werent made properly, 50% will cus they were made right. Mass production, .... happens. I guess

 

[Tebo]

I am using the same Stardust as you are. I have cleaned mine several times now and the TH does diminish over time. I attribute that to use and wear and tear on the coil and it simply doesn't heat up as well over time. I cleaned mine out again last night and did a dry burn and let it sit. I filled it with juice and the initial hits were HORRID (very light, very little vapor production). I let it sit over night with fluid in it and tried again this morning. Much stronger throat hit and vapor production. I attribute this to wicking (letting the juice soak up into the wick). No, it doesn't hit as strong as it did when it was new, but I am getting good vapor production, flavor and throat hit.

I have a CE5 clearomizer which is rebuildable. I cleaned off the wicks last night, dried, dry burned and started vaping again on that one immediately. No diminished TH or vapor production but again, it took a few tokes before it was doing it "correctly" again.

I think that when it comes to cleaning this stuff out and re-using we need to be patient. We have expectations of how something is supposed to work and when it doesn't we become impatient. Let your Stardust sit with juice in it over night and use one of your backups (always have back ups) and see if it doesn't hit better in the morning. I also know that Stardusts are kinda finicky when it comes to thicker juices so try thinning it out with some plain PG (some say use distilled water but I don't know how that would work since water seems to hinder the wicking process).

HTH.

This helped me better than anything so far, much thanks. So Stardusts get weaker after cleaning.. which adds up to why mine was weaker afterwards. I should not have cleaned it. The place where I bought my equipment said they are not meant to be cleaned, just replace parts when needed. So when I get my new shipment of clearomizers, if they a lil bit funky but working as good as ever, IO'm just not going to clean them, well, I'll rinse the glass peice but never getting the coil head wet ever again

 

[bruther]

I can't help you with your vapor production issues, but I can tell you how to easily restrict the air flow. Yesterday I started using the Redux clearomizer which I believe is quite similar to the Stardust. Right off the bat, I wasn't happy with the air flow so, I took a condom from one of my cartos, snipped it with a scissors, so that I ended up with a little rubber ring. I stretched the ring over the end of the clearomizer and then screwed it onto the battery. then I slide the ring down over the air holes to get the desired flow, works like a charm.

I used this same method with cartos for a long time, the only difference being that I cut a little 'V' shape in the edge of the condom so that it would expose one of the air holes

 

[KarenB]

Thanks Tebo ... yeah, you can clean them but be super careful to not pour fluid down the center. I use a bottle with a blunt needle attached to get the water into the clearomizer part, shake then pour water out.

Watch this video ... it's pretty good

How To Clean Your Clearomizer - YouTube

But don't be scared to clean them out just be patient with vapor production but realize that over time they will diminish. They are really made as "disposable" ... If you want/like clearomizers you should either invest in a ViVi Nova or a CE5 clearomizer.

EDIT: I just popped on my Stardust and am vaping Watermelon. It's producing good vapor and throat hit. This is one that I have cleaned about 5x now.

This helped me better than anything so far, much thanks. So Stardusts get weaker after cleaning.. which adds up to why mine was weaker afterwards. I should not have cleaned it. The place where I bought my equipment said they are not meant to be cleaned, just replace parts when needed. So when I get my new shipment of clearomizers, if they a lil bit funky but working as good as ever, IO'm just not going to clean them, well, I'll rinse the glass peice but never getting the coil head wet ever again