How to DIY Heavier Vapor??

[angelique510]

I know that VG is used for more vapor and that PGA is used for throat hit. I am happy with Flavor Art flavorings and I have an unflavored nic juice that has no chemical taste, nic level is as high as it can be without making me sick - so I'm good with all that.

What I am trying to do is find a way to make heavier, denser, less fluffy vapor. I have great vapor production with my Penstyle and box mod (my Blu produces the same amount of vapor as a cigarette - at least visually) but the vapor itself just isn't satisfying me. It is like sucking flavored air. There are days when I suck on my e-cig until I turn blue and there is vapor all over the place, but I still don't feel like I have gotten anything. If you used to smoke regular cigarettes and then bummed an ultra-light from someone - you know what I am talking about here. I don't need more flavor, and I don't need more throat hit - I cough sometimes as it is - I just need more "something"

What can I add to my juice to make it more full bodied? It sounds weird to say that I am wanting more mass to my vapor - but that is kind of what I am looking for.

Any ideas?

~A

 

[GoodDog]

I use a couple of drops of FA's Vape Wizard and that seems to give me more vapor and depth to some flavors. Magic Mask worked great in my Chocolate Raspberry to soften the acid feeling in my mouth and bring the Raspberry flavor out more. It doesn't take much, just a drop or two.

 

[Nikhil]

What % VG do you use? If you post one of your favorite recipes it would be helpful. And as GoodDog said, Vape Wizard might be what you're looking for.

 

[angelique510]

OK- I mixed up a big bottle of 24mg PG from My Freedom Smokes and added Wilton's Glycerin at around 35% - which gives me around 16-17mg nic. (works out real cheap that way,too) That's about all the higher I can go with nic before I get sick from it. Then I put that in little bottles to which I add my Flavour Art flavorings. My favorite right now is Shade tobacco at around 2%. That gives me a good flavor. I go a little higher with fruit flavors or vanilla. My ultimate goal is to match the classic tobacco carts from Blucigs. I love that flavor.

I'm going to try a couple of drops of Everclear, but I don't think it is throat hit I am looking for. I get the tickle in my throat, sometimes to the point of coughing.


I have tried Vape Wizard. I can't stand the taste of it. It is cloyingly sweet, and reminds me of rotting compost. It could be just me. It stunk up my whole tackle box of DIY supplies.

It is probably the fact that I am vaping a liquid instead of burning plant fibers, that makes vapor so fluffy. It doesn't have all those plant particles in there. I wonder if I can ever get vapor to feel right.

Thanks for the help

~A

 

[Nikhil]

Have you tried Tobacco Absolute? That might be the kind of flavor you're looking for.

The Vape Wizard I have has no smell. You might have used too much, which can cause problems. How much did you use?

 

[Nikhil]

Double post..

 

[Pokai]

I think I know the feeling you are talking about. I usually vape on 8mg liquid, as that's enough for me to feel like it's not just flavored air. Anything less and it just feels too light. But sometimes it just doesnt do it for me. So what I would do is top off my cart almost all the way, but also add 1-3 drops of straight 27mg unflavored liquid. That gives me the heavy vape I'm looking for, but only for a few drags, so I dont get the sick feeling from too much nic. For me, it seems like the only way I can get that heavier vapor feeling is from increasing the nic. Hope that helps or at least gives you some ideas.

 

[Moonflame]

What pv are you using? I found that the vapor is too cool on some PVs and that warmer vapor feels more like smoke and less like clouds. You may want to move to higher voltage.

 

[7thCabal]

IMHO if you're looking for denser vape, you have to go a little higher on your percentages of VG-- maybe a 50/50 PG/VG. Your ratio just may need a little tweaking & playing around with in order to find your ideal density.

 

[Kurt]

My DIYs are VG-only. I thin with distilled water, but you can also use PGA or vodka. I get mad vapor. The only PG in my juices is from some flavorings. Maybe you should try a VG juice just to get an idea of how VG-only is for you.