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How to flavor your e-juice without 'vape' flavors

Discussion in 'General E-Liquid Discussion' started by Ondra, Oct 4, 2018.

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  1. Ondra

    Ondra New Member

    Oct 4, 2018
    How can you flavor or aroma your e-juice without using 'vape' designed aromas or flavors? Can i use for example vanilla extract? What else can I use?
     
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  2. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Hi and welcome,
    DIY is a great way to control what you vape (and what is IN your vape) and is much less expensive than buying retail juice.
    In general, the flavours used for DIY e-liquids are originally produced as food flavourings.
    Many folks have been making juice at home for close to a decade. It is in your best interest to use "vetted" flavours that are widely and readily available for that purpose.
    We have a DIY section that should help you with the process. DIY E-Liquid
    Would you still be using nicotine in your mix?
    Do you have a source for PG and or VG?
    What kind of equipment are you using?
    Where are you located?

    cheers
    I
     
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  3. tailland

    tailland Ultra Member

    Aug 11, 2018
    Germany
    I wouldn't do it, tbh.
    Actual food flavor manufacturers care little about what vapers can have in their flavors, and what not.

    Concerning vanilla flavor...
     

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  4. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Unless you are willing to do the research and reading I would recommend staying with flavors for diy e liquid. Most of the companies have made adjustments to their flavors to accommodate us.
     
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  5. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 11, 2010
    between here and there
    The problems with buying flavors in the supermarket or where ever that is meant for ingestion and not inhalation are the impurities. Supermarket vanilla for example has fillers, alcohol and preservative type of ingredients that you really do not want in your lungs. You could cook and purify them but why go to the expense and work when for a few dollars it is already done for you when buying them from a vendor that sells for vapers?

    jmho

    :)
     
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  6. marianna

    marianna Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 30, 2012
    Netherlands
    You could use all DX-flavors from The Flavor Apprentice. Those are 'vape' designed:

    Perfumer's Apprentice
     
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  7. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Pretty much anything FlavourArt has available in the US has been modified for us. On their home site they are clear in stating if a flavor is not for use in e liquids in the flavor description.
     
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  8. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    There are very few things that are safe to vape "in the wild" so to speak they contain substances such as oils and many other things that could be harmful to the lungs.

    The few things I know can be used like certain teas, herbs, (perhaps) coffee and actual tobacco flavoring require special preparation and handling in order to be safe for inhalation and it's often complicated and time consuming to do at home.

    Flavors created for vaping really are going to be your best bet, and while it's certainly arguable that we don't know every single thing in those flavors ,they have been in use for quite some time (and when certain substances have been tested for in theory harmfulness, most flavor companies will remove those flavors) and that at least gives you a certain baseline for safety.

    Just using vanilla in that fashion is 100% guaranteed to lead to a probably undesirable outcome . Oh it kind of makes sense in "theory" but what we inhale is very, very different than what we ingest in other ways.

    Good luck and happy flavoring!

    Anna
     
  9. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Welcome and glad you joined.
    Flavors should only be added to existing e-juice when the vaper knows what he or she is doing.
    One shot flavors are starting to gain momentum for those interested in mixing their own and want to start out simple. One shot flavors (OS/Flavor Blends) are premixed flavors that are only designed to be used on their own and mixed with a base of Propylene Glycol, Vegetable Glycerin and Nicotine (at least one/two/all of the three). One shot mixing is supposed to be close to the flavor promoted on the bottle. These mixes may allow some adjustment of the strength (percentage) of the mix. OS Mixing can be a good introductory to DIY. One shots and flavor blends are simply added per directions to the mixer's desired mixing base, Shake and Vape (SnV) or steep as directed.
    Might like to visit:
    http://www.ecigexpress.com/shop/diy-e-liquid/one-shot-concentrates/diyordie-concentrates.html
    https://www.liquidbarn.com/products/flavor-cartridge
    One Shot Concentrates
    Flavors - Gremlin - Gremlin DIY --- Known as "Gremlin DIY" = one shot?
    Flavor Shots Vape Juice | Mt Baker Vapor
    E-Liquid Mixing Kits | DIY Vape Juice
    http://www.juicefactory.com.au/tags/-one-shot-concentrates
    https://www.oooflavors.com/collections/one-shot-flavor-concentrates
    http://www.onestopdiyshop.com/category-s/141.htm
     
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  10. marianna

    marianna Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 30, 2012
    Netherlands
    Those DX-flavors I mentioned, are free from diketones, so without diacetyl, acetoin, acetyl propionyl and/or butyric acid.
     
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