How well do 510 atties hold up at 6v?

[jboze]

How well do 510 atties hold up at 6v? Compared to say an 801 atty at 6v and to the stock 3.6/3.7v batteries.

Another question, obviously bigger bats last longer, but do they lead to better vapor production as well? Would the Silver Bullet running a single 18650 outperform a device like the Super T1 using a single 16340 in any area other than battery life?

I noticed in reviews and vids that the Silver Bullet put out a noticeably larger amount of vapor than a regular 510 battery even with 3.7 volts. Obviously the 180mah-200 or whatever the stock batteries are compared to 18650 is quite a jump. Maybe the diff between a 16340 and 18650 wouldn't be as noticeable? If at all?

 

[funkybozu]

i have noticed that 510s performe better at higher Vs
as long as yioyu keep the atty wet then at 6V 510 is great, better imo than at 3.7
the ionly atty that doesnt do good at 6V is the 901, its the best at 3.7 but 6V is to much for it.
801 at 6V is bliss imo. but the atty die quickly if you're not carfull

as for Batt. i too think that a 18650 will out perform a 16340 not just in capacity but in the Cs it can deliver. i think you can tell easyly in that my 18650s just dont get hot or even warm in heavy use, were as my 16340s do
and with lions as soon as they heat up, they dont performs as well at all

 

[mnealtx]

510 runs fine at 6v 5v- I've been using one in a passthrough for about 3 weeks. 801 has held up fine for the last 2 weeks.

(*I beg your pardon - just realized that my wallwart that powers my passthrough is set to 5v, not 6v - please disregard my statement above except for 5v longevity.)

Re: large mod vapor - 3.7v is 3.7v. You can get more vapor from a manual mod, since YOU control when the battery cuts off rather than the battery circuitry.

Larger batteries mean a more stable vape - you can hit it harder, longer without causing the battery to heat up and drop voltage.

 

[mnealtx]

i too think that a 18650 will out perform a 16340 not just in capacity but in the Cs it can deliver.

Capacity is directly related to the "C rating" - an 18650 at 2400mah can take up to 2.4 amps current draw without breaking a 1C discharge rate. A 16340 at 880mah can only provide 0.88 amp without breaking a 1C rate.

So, with an atomizer drawing 1.5 amps of current, an 18650 will be more stable than a 16340, and, due to the higher capacity, perform longer.

It never hurts to have your batteries provide more capacity in mah than the current draw from the atomizer, for the longest performance and stability of performance - that's why my nicostick runs parallel 14500s providing 1800mah, it means that my atomizer drawing 1.5 amp doesn't break a 1C discharge rate.

 

[jboze]

Excellent info. Thanks for that mnealtx!

 

[mnealtx]

You're very welcome - it's not that the 16340 won't work, because obviously it does - it about longevity and stability, that's all.

 

[funkybozu]

You're very welcome - it's not that the 16340 won't work, because obviously it does - it about longevity and stability, that's all.

well said!

 

[quovadis]

I'm using a 510 atty on the prodigy PT.
at 5v and at 6 volts.
Just got to keep dripping.
I would not use cart filler at such high voltages.

 

[jboze]

Thanks for the tip. I plan on using the 510 at 3.7 with carts. Want to give it a shot at 6v if the throat kick doesn't kill me.

Probably use the 801 at 6v. Heard it can handle carts then if using PTB or straw mod and taking it easy.

 

[Nepenthy]

510 runs fine at 6v - I've been using one in a passthrough for about 3 weeks

Using as a passthrough....wouldnt that be USB 5v and not 6v? Is passthrough a generic term for running an atty without the corresponding battery? All my passthroughs are 5v unless there is a battery inline, then its between 3.7v and 4.5v.

 

[Robert]

The 510 atomizers work fine at 6 volts although I notice a slight too hot taste, but IMO 5 volts is the sweet spot where juice taste better. That is with average juice.

With Juice made for High Volt Mods like Nhaler high volt- 6 volts was fine, no hot taste.

3.7 volts with a higher Mah will be like OEM but last all day.

Now here is the interesting part.

At 6 volts or even 5 volt I don't seem to need as high nicotine content to satisfy me. This is both good and bad. If you have a lot of 24 mg juice you like to vape all day then having the 3.7 volt option is needed. If I tried to vape 24mg at 5 volts I would be over nicing myself in no time.

The next big thing will be Mods like mine that can run at 3.7 / 5.0/ and / 6.0 volts
there will be more....

 

[quovadis]

I have a tekkeon power pack with variable voltage, so i can vape anywhere from 3v~14v depending on my mood.

Anything over 7.5v is too harsh.
I find that 4.5v to 7v is a perfect spread

 

[mnealtx]

Hey, Nepenthy - I forgot to mention that I'm using an adjustable wall-wart to provide the power, so I don't have to worry about possibly burning out the USB port on the computer. You're absolutely correct that USB from the computer would be 5v.

The passthrough is homemade, so it goes straight through a normally open momentary switch to the atomizer connection - basically, the same as a nicostick, just using a USB cable for the power source rather than a battery.

Edit - I bet your pardon - I mispoke, above. The wallwart for my passthrough is set to 5v, not 6v. I'll edit my prior post.

 

[Ralph Hilton]

It seems to me that some of the voltages are wrong in the discussion. If the adaptor is set to 6 volts that isn't the voltage at the atty as a lot gets dropped in the wires.

 

[Burnie]

It seems to me that some of the voltages are wrong in the discussion. If the adaptor is set to 6 volts that isn't the voltage at the atty as a lot gets dropped in the wires.

As short as the wires are I don't think you will get a measurable drop. Now if your cable is 100' long, then yes there would be a drop.

Burnie

 

[Stric9]

Yup... My harshness was coming from the end of the plastic cart at 6V!! (Melting) - Be careful...LOL

Respects

 

[funkybozu]

Thanks for the tip. I plan on using the 510 at 3.7 with carts. Want to give it a shot at 6v if the throat kick doesn't kill me.

Probably use the 801 at 6v. Heard it can handle carts then if using PTB or straw mod and taking it easy.

no atty can hadle cart very well at 6V,they canteven do it at 3.7V

 

[vaporich]

I always used 3.7 volt batts to start. But I soon found, that was not enough.
I know vape with my passthroughs at 5 volts.
I have a mod, copper, and I vape my 510 and 801 at 6 volts.
SO far no worries at all. Yes, you have to use more juice.
No, dont use filler, go with direct dripping or the tea bags,
I like direct dripping.
The 901 will not work at 6 volts, dont try it, I went through 5 atomizers in 2 days.
The 510, 801, and 4081 all work at the 6 volts so far.

I wouldnt think anything over 6 volts would taste good, since if you arent juiced enough 6 volts will taste burnt.
Just an opinion though.
Once you go higher voltage, its really hard to go back to a normal battery.
SO, make sure you get all ur accessories that you need, to vape at 5 or 6, constantly.
LOL.

 

[ericscott]

I been vapeing 6v for about 4 months with 901 and out of 5 attys I still have 3 and I vape about 5m a day sometimes a day and a half they are TW attys I tried 801 attys fried one after a day so went back to 901 so I think some people are just lucky and I take 3 to 5 sec drages.

 

[vaporich]

Yeah, after my experience with the 901 at 6 volts, I just use it with 5 volts now.
I think your right, I cant seem to figure out, what fries them, and why they do it.
Literally, two of them, I might of got 5 vapes out of.
One lasted a few days, but that is the longest I got.
But with 5 volts through passthrough, it works fine.
I just stick with the 510 at 6 volt. The 4081 works great at 6 volts too, but It doesnt seem to keep as good as a taste.