I am new.. Just want and need to quit smoking and have some questions

[skates89us]

I am new and I need to stop smoking. I am smoking way to much and I feel the time has come where I need to quit. I had purchased a tank like system with some e juice and 6 milligrams of nicotine and I liked it but found i needed to stop because i could not smoke it without coughing to much. My question is there any special juice I might consider that wont make me cough as much. I really want to quit smoking I am tired of it and it will kill me eventually if I dont stop now. Also wanted to ask how safe are these as i hear from some people they arent so safe. Lord nicotine addiction is terrible. I appreciate any help and I wish everyone who is doing this the absolute best. My name is mike by the way and I live on Long Island.. Thanks again

 

[r77r7r]

HI MIKE. There are a few things that can make you cough. Try lowering the power level, lowering the amount of nicotine a bit for a start. Smaller puffs help, and you don't really have to inhale to get the nic. Then you can try less PG in the mix, go with bakery sweet stuff instead of fruity, and can switch suppliers. Most people overcome it, you'll be fine, just stick with it.

 

[r77r7r]

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[Susan~S]

Hello and welcome to the forum @skates89us. Glad to have you here!

1. What type of mod/tank system are you using to vape with?
2. Did you "prime" the coil before you started vaping?
3. What is the resistance of your coil?
4. What is the Pg/Vg ratio of your e-liquid?

Nicotine

A "general guideline" for nicotine concentration in e-liquid to the number of cigarettes smoked per day. If you are subohming (resistance under 1.0Ω) cut these nicotine levels by at least 50%.

06 mg = 10 cigarettes or less
12 mg = 20 cigarettes
18 mg = 30 cigarettes
24 mg = 40 cigarettes

eLiquid/Juice

PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin.

VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick. Often labeled just "Glycerine"

PG and VG are often used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Many juice vendors offer a range of different ratios as far as PG/VG.

Priming a Coil

All cotton coils have to be primed well with juice. If they are not primed well the cotton will burn. Once the cotton is burned the burned taste doesn't go away.

To prime the coil, drop 5-8 drops of juice right inside the coil (sometimes less/more depending on the size of the coil head), another drop of juice in all the holes on the side of the coil. I watch the cotton absorb the eliquid and when it can't hold any more I put the coil in the base.

• If Bottom Filling - Fill the tank and then screw the base back onto the tank.
• If Top Filling (some tanks are top filled) - Screw the tank on the base and then top fill it.

Once you put the tank on the battery give it several unpowered primer puffs. This will make sure the wick is fully saturated.

Rule of Thumb

The rule of thumb for EVERY vape device you'll ever own is the same (when running in power or wattage/voltage mode).

• Turn your voltage/wattage down, take a few hits, bump it up, couple more hits.
• Repeat until you find your "sweet spot".
• If it starts to taste funny, gets too hot or tastes burnt, back it down.
• Different flavors will have different sweet spots so you just have to experiment.

 

[sofarsogood]

New vapers usually need assistance to get started. A reputable shop or experienced friend are good choices. Around me it seems like the tobacco shops are giving the best customer service to new vapers. If you vape you'll smoke less. If you don't stop vaping eventually you will stop smoking. It took me 6 weeks. A brother of mine took 10 months. Take the long view. It works. Don't give up.

 

[skates89us]

New vapers usually need assistance to get started. A reputable shop or experienced friend are good choices. Around me it seems like the tobacco shops are giving the best customer service to new vapers. If you vape you'll smoke less. If you don't stop vaping eventually you will stop smoking. It took me 6 weeks. A brother of mine took 10 months. Take the long view. It works. Don't give up.

Thank you I am not going to give up that was encouraging to hear. I really appreciate that

 

[Two_Bears]

I am new and I need to stop smoking. I am smoking way to much and I feel the time has come where I need to quit. I had purchased a tank like system with some e juice and 6 milligrams of nicotine and I liked it but found i needed to stop because i could not smoke it without coughing to much. My question is there any special juice I might consider that wont make me cough as much. I really want to quit smoking I am tired of it and it will kill me eventually if I dont stop now. Also wanted to ask how safe are these as i hear from some people they arent so safe. Lord nicotine addiction is terrible. I appreciate any help and I wish everyone who is doing this the absolute best. My name is mike by the way and I live on Long Island.. Thanks again

Some people are allergic to Propylene Glycol.

Some nicotine has a peppery flavor.

Try a 60-70% VG ejuice

Try a ejuice from another company.

Maybe one or both suggesting will help.

 

[JustWondering1]

I am new and I need to stop smoking. I am smoking way to much and I feel the time has come where I need to quit. I had purchased a tank like system with some e juice and 6 milligrams of nicotine and I liked it but found i needed to stop because i could not smoke it without coughing to much. My question is there any special juice I might consider that wont make me cough as much. I really want to quit smoking I am tired of it and it will kill me eventually if I dont stop now. Also wanted to ask how safe are these as i hear from some people they arent so safe. Lord nicotine addiction is terrible. I appreciate any help and I wish everyone who is doing this the absolute best. My name is mike by the way and I live on Long Island.. Thanks again

What kind of device and tank are you using? Are you using sub-ohm gear, which is used for direct lung vaping or are you vaping in the same way you smoked analogs, which is mouth to lung vaping? I have always been a mouth to lung vaper, but if you are sub-ohming with a juice that has a high enough nicotine level, I bet it would make you cough a whole lot.

The first time I tried vaping I coughed my head off. It was as bad as your worst coughing spell while you've got pneumonia. Every time I took a pull, I would cough something awful. I kept trying to make it work off and on for three months or so, but my coughing never got any better. The shop I bought my gear in never offered me the opportunity to try vaping in the store, and I had no idea this was a normal practice. So, the first time I vaped it I was at home. I called the vape shop to ask for help, and they just said I would get used to it. An analog (regular cigarette) never made me cough so badly, so I went back to the analogs. Even my daughter, who had begged me to try vaping said she didn't blame me for going back on analogs. I have no idea why that juice made me cough so much, but I would never recommend anyone go to that store.

A year or more later, my daughter wanted me to try vaping again and suggested I a different vape shop and a different juice. I agreed to give it another try and started scouring vape shops in the area. I walked into the new vape shop and explained my problem to them. They fixed me right up with juice I loved that didn't make me cough at all, and I've been vaping ever since. I asked the people in the store why the other juice made me cough so much, and they said some nicotine is just more harsh than others.

Maybe your nic juice was too harsh, or perhaps it's that you have an allergy to PG or VG. I would suggest that you go to a different vape shop than the one you bought your coughing juice from, and do what I did. Explain to them what the problem is and ask them to let you sample some other juices. Try one that's Max VG to see if it's the VG that's making you cough, then try one that's mostly PG. Eventually you'll find one you love the taste of that won't cause you problems. Also be sure to take your e cig in to the shop so you can show it to them when they are helping you figure this out.

I hope you are able to figure this out very soon. Vaping should be a very enjoyable thing for everyone, and I wish you lots of luck with this.

 

[skates89us]

Hello and welcome to the forum @skates89us. Glad to have you here!

1. What type of mod/tank system are you using to vape with?
2. Did you "prime" the coil before you started vaping?
3. What is the resistance of your coil?
4. What is the Pg/Vg ratio of your e-liquid?

Nicotine

A "general guideline" for nicotine concentration in e-liquid to the number of cigarettes smoked per day. If you are subohming (resistance under 1.0Ω) cut these nicotine levels by at least 50%.

06 mg = 10 cigarettes or less
12 mg = 20 cigarettes
18 mg = 30 cigarettes
24 mg = 40 cigarettes

eLiquid/Juice

PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin.

VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick. Often labeled just "Glycerine"

PG and VG are often used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Many juice vendors offer a range of different ratios as far as PG/VG.

Priming a Coil

All cotton coils have to be primed well with juice. If they are not primed well the cotton will burn. Once the cotton is burned the burned taste doesn't go away.

To prime the coil, drop 5-8 drops of juice right inside the coil (sometimes less/more depending on the size of the coil head), another drop of juice in all the holes on the side of the coil. I watch the cotton absorb the eliquid and when it can't hold any more I put the coil in the base.

• If Bottom Filling - Fill the tank and then screw the base back onto the tank.
• If Top Filling (some tanks are top filled) - Screw the tank on the base and then top fill it.

Once you put the tank on the battery give it several unpowered primer puffs. This will make sure the wick is fully saturated.

Rule of Thumb

The rule of thumb for EVERY vape device you'll ever own is the same (when running in power or wattage/voltage mode).

• Turn your voltage/wattage down, take a few hits, bump it up, couple more hits.
• Repeat until you find your "sweet spot".
• If it starts to taste funny, gets too hot or tastes burnt, back it down.
• Different flavors will have different sweet spots so you just have to experiment.

Thank you so much wow so much information to consider. Yeah it can be so bad the coughing for me that I can only absorb it through my mouth by holding it there. I have boosted e juice is the name. I have had it awhile. I think it is more vg than pg. I just started again and this e cig has been sitting here for a long time like a year so I think i might need a new coil I have 6mgs of nicotine ..I can see i have alot to learn and thank you so much for the information I am going to study all of this. I havent had a cig for one hour and 20 minutes.

 

[JustWondering1]

Thank you so much wow so much information to consider. Yeah it can be so bad the coughing for me that I can only absorb it through my mouth by holding it there. I have boosted e juice is the name. I have had it awhile. I think it is more vg than pg. I just started again and this e cig has been sitting here for a long time like a year so I think i might need a new coil I have 6mgs of nicotine ..I can see i have alot to learn and thank you so much for the information I am going to study all of this. I havent had a cig for one hour and 20 minutes.

Please don't worry about smoking the analogs until you get this figured out and you are comfortable giving up the analogs. I kept smoking analogs for a while I was vaping and I don't think that's anything to be ashamed of. I had to experiment with a few different nicotine levels before I was able to give the analogs up. I greatly prefer vaping to smoking analogs, so as soon as I was getting enough nicotine, it was never hard at all to give the analogs up. I doubt that my experience is that unusual. It takes a while to figure out what vaping gear, nic level juice and vaping style works best for you, but once you do, it's a piece of cake. If you are too strict with yourself about giving up the analogs before you figure out what works for you, I'm afraid you will just get frustrated and give up on vaping. That's what you most do not want to happen.

 

[Two_Bears]

What kind of device and tank are you using? Are you using sub-ohm gear, which is used for direct lung vaping or are you vaping in the same way you smoked analogs, which is mouth to lung vaping? I have always been a mouth to lung vaper, but if you are sub-ohming with a juice that has a high enough nicotine level, I bet it would make you cough a whole lot.

The first time I tried vaping I coughed my head off. It was as bad as your worst coughing spell while you've got pneumonia. Every time I took a pull, I would cough something awful. I kept trying to make it work off and on for three months or so, but my coughing never got any better. The shop I bought my gear in never offered me the opportunity to try vaping in the store, and I had no idea this was a normal practice. So, the first time I vaped it I was at home. I called the vape shop to ask for help, and they just said I would get used to it. An analog (regular cigarette) never made me cough so badly, so I went back to the analogs. Even my daughter, who had begged me to try vaping said she didn't blame me for going back on analogs. I have no idea why that juice made me cough so much, but I would never recommend anyone go to that store.

A year or more later, my daughter wanted me to try vaping again and suggested I a different vape shop and a different juice. I agreed to give it another try and started scouring vape shops in the area. I walked into the new vape shop and explained my problem to them. They fixed me right up with juice I loved that didn't make me cough at all, and I've been vaping ever since. I asked the people in the store why the other juice made me cough so much, and they said some nicotine is just more harsh than others.

Maybe your nic juice was too harsh, or perhaps it's that you have an allergy to PG or VG. I would suggest that you go to a different vape shop than the one you bought your coughing juice from, and do what I did. Explain to them what the problem is and ask them to let you sample some other juices. Try one that's Max VG to see if it's the VG that's making you cough, then try one that's mostly PG. Eventually you'll find one you love the taste of that won't cause you problems. Also be sure to take your e cig in to the shop so you can show it to them when they are helping you figure this out.

I hope you are able to figure this out very soon. Vaping should be a very enjoyable thing for everyone, and I wish you lots of luck with this.

Most people Sub ohming dramatically cut their nicotine level. Hotter coils vaporize more eJuice

 

[skates89us]

What kind of device and tank are you using? Are you using sub-ohm gear, which is used for direct lung vaping or are you vaping in the same way you smoked analogs, which is mouth to lung vaping? I have always been a mouth to lung vaper, but if you are sub-ohming with a juice that has a high enough nicotine level, I bet it would make you cough a whole lot.

The first time I tried vaping I coughed my head off. It was as bad as your worst coughing spell while you've got pneumonia. Every time I took a pull, I would cough something awful. I kept trying to make it work off and on for three months or so, but my coughing never got any better. The shop I bought my gear in never offered me the opportunity to try vaping in the store, and I had no idea this was a normal practice. So, the first time I vaped it I was at home. I called the vape shop to ask for help, and they just said I would get used to it. An analog (regular cigarette) never made me cough so badly, so I went back to the analogs. Even my daughter, who had begged me to try vaping said she didn't blame me for going back on analogs. I have no idea why that juice made me cough so much, but I would never recommend anyone go to that store.

A year or more later, my daughter wanted me to try vaping again and suggested I a different vape shop and a different juice. I agreed to give it another try and started scouring vape shops in the area. I walked into the new vape shop and explained my problem to them. They fixed me right up with juice I loved that didn't make me cough at all, and I've been vaping ever since. I asked the people in the store why the other juice made me cough so much, and they said some nicotine is just more harsh than others.

Maybe your nic juice was too harsh, or perhaps it's that you have an allergy to PG or VG. I would suggest that you go to a different vape shop than the one you bought your coughing juice from, and do what I did. Explain to them what the problem is and ask them to let you sample some other juices. Try one that's Max VG to see if it's the VG that's making you cough, then try one that's mostly PG. Eventually you'll find one you love the taste of that won't cause you problems. Also be sure to take your e cig in to the shop so you can show it to them when they are helping you figure this out.

I hope you are able to figure this out very soon. Vaping should be a very enjoyable thing for everyone, and I wish you lots of luck with this.

Thank you again so much. I put this thing together today and I have been vaping with it for half the night and I had to put it down the coughing is intolerable. I had to have a cigerette, no way can I tolerate whatever it is I have here. I am coughing even after I stop and this is why I stopped doing this. I appreciate your response because that is what im gonna do. Im gonna find a shop that lets me test this stuff like you mentioned and this way I can find something way less harsh. There is absolutely no way I can smoke this stuff I have but I am not gonna quit I am gonna do just like you suggested. I want it to be enjoyable. If I could tolerate it and its enjoyable then i wont need another ciggy. I just got back on to check my messages and I want to thank everyone including yourself for this very valuable information. I will be sure to check in and let everyone know what goes on. Like you mentioned it is supposed to be enjoyable let me tell you this is not enjoyable at all. Thanks again I will be researching this I hope i find the solution tomorrow or my next chance to hit a vap shop

Oh one other thing I would not know the difference between lung vaping or mouth to lung vaping or what sub ohm stuff is. Im totally new here lol I have a tank on my e cig that I do know

 

[bnrkwest]

Drink water lots and lots of water. Vape like smoking a cigar, draw in slowly, hold the vape in your mouth, then open your mouth to bring in air before inhaling. That should cut down your coughing. You could be dehydrated so keep drinking water. Best of luck!

 

[salemgold]

Hi, Mike. Welcome to ECF.

I suspect that you are coughing because you are trying to inhale your vapor like you smoke. Try inhaling as the post just above mine suggested and see if that will help you.

There is a lot of misinformation about nicotine out there. It is not the nicotine in the cigarettes that will kill you. Here is some good information if you have time to read it.
Nicotine Propaganda

Vaping is much safer than smoking and has been life saving for so many of us. It really does work.

My advice to you would be to use whatever nicotine level it takes to satisfy you and help to get you off the cigarettes for now. Some need more, some need less. Everyone is different. The important thing right now is to quit the thousands of other harmful chemicals that are in cigarettes. Whatever you do, don't give up. Come here to the forum and ask for help and encouragement when you need it. There are many people here that will be glad to assist you.

Good luck to you.

 

[salemgold]

Oh one other thing I would not know the difference between lung vaping or mouth to lung vaping or what sub ohm stuff is. Im totally new here lol I have a tank on my e cig that I do know

Mouth to lung would be when you draw into your mouth first and then down to your lungs as stated above. Lung vaping is how I used to smoke cigs. Deep draws directly down to my lungs.

Subohm vaping is a warmer (hotter) vape ( simplest explanation) with a coil resistance measuring below 1.0 ohms in other words the coils would be a negative number of ohms.

Hopefully you will find an experienced vaper at a vape shop that will be able to give you even more personal guidance.

 

[salemgold]

You may just have a really harsh ejuice that you are trying to vape. Hopefully it will be as simple as that and changing to a new ejuice will make all of the difference for you.

 

[Two_Bears]

Hi, Mike. Welcome to ECF.

I suspect that you are coughing because you are trying to inhale your vapor like you smoke. Try inhaling as the post just above mine suggested and see if that will help you.

There is a lot of misinformation about nicotine out there. It is not the nicotine in the cigarettes that will kill you. Here is some good information if you have time to read it.
Nicotine Propaganda

Vaping is much safer than smoking and has been life saving for so many of us. It really does work.

My advice to you would be to use whatever nicotine level it takes to satisfy you and help to get you off the cigarettes for now. Some need more, some need less. Everyone is different. The important thing right now is to quit the thousands of other harmful chemicals that are in cigarettes. Whatever you do, don't give up. Come here to the forum and ask for help and encouragement when you need it. There are many people here that will be glad to assist you.

Good luck to you.

It certainly does work. Vaping helped me go from 18 mg/ml when i started to 0 mg/ml 12/28/2015.

 

[Susan~S]

Oh one other thing I would not know the difference between lung vaping or mouth to lung vaping

• Mouth-2-lung: 2 step process. Drawing the vapor into your mouth and then inhaling it into your lungs.
• Direct-2-Lung: 1 step process. Inhaling the vapor directly into your lungs.

Im totally new here lol I have a tank on my e cig that I do know

If you are interested in learning more about e-cigarettes (and all the parts and pieces) below are some blog posts by ECF member @Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping.

• A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor
• Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Egos and Mods
• Proper Terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments

 

[skates89us]

Please don't worry about smoking the analogs until you get this figured out and you are comfortable giving up the analogs. I kept smoking analogs for a while I was vaping and I don't think that's anything to be ashamed of. I had to experiment with a few different nicotine levels before I was able to give the analogs up. I greatly prefer vaping to smoking analogs, so as soon as I was getting enough nicotine, it was never hard at all to give the analogs up. I doubt that my experience is that unusual. It takes a while to figure out what vaping gear, nic level juice and vaping style works best for you, but once you do, it's a piece of cake. If you are too strict with yourself about giving up the analogs before you figure out what works for you, I'm afraid you will just get frustrated and give up on vaping. That's what you most do not want to happen.

Thank you no im not gonna quit trying at all. Your input helps me greatly to see this is not uncommon. Without this insight id probably give up and smoke analogs but now that I see this is not uncommon I will continue to research and experiment. Thank you so much this helps me a great deal

 

[skates89us]

Hi, Mike. Welcome to ECF.

I suspect that you are coughing because you are trying to inhale your vapor like you smoke. Try inhaling as the post just above mine suggested and see if that will help you.

There is a lot of misinformation about nicotine out there. It is not the nicotine in the cigarettes that will kill you. Here is some good information if you have time to read it.
Nicotine Propaganda

Vaping is much safer than smoking and has been life saving for so many of us. It really does work.

My advice to you would be to use whatever nicotine level it takes to satisfy you and help to get you off the cigarettes for now. Some need more, some need less. Everyone is different. The important thing right now is to quit the thousands of other harmful chemicals that are in cigarettes. Whatever you do, don't give up. Come here to the forum and ask for help and encouragement when you need it. There are many people here that will be glad to assist you.

Good luck to you.

Thank you I have read many of the replies and that is what I need to do. I need a lot of research. I tried a few different juices last time and same thing intolerable coughing for me which really really sucks. I wonder if their are certain people who cannot ever vap because of coughing. I need to meet one of these very experienced vapors at a shop like fast lol I am gonna stick with it but I dont want to be burning up my money testing this that this and that. I need to find what is causing the issues. Thanks again so much this information is all very helpfull I must not stop trying I see that and i will report when I find a solution that is for sure