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skivy2

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Everytime I think I have this "vaping" thing down pat, I'm left confused and frustrated. I got my Reo Grand on Saturday...the rest of my stash (eGo, GGTS, etc) have been left behind (temporarily...still love my GGTS) while I use my Reo.

Here are my questions/issues:
1. I buy Backwoods Brew...I would consider other vendors, but I get lost in the posts and don't really know which ones to try. (Also, taste is subjective, so that makes it difficult as well.) My BWB is the standard 70% PG / 30% VG. It seems like the flavor is muted with the Reo. I'm assuming it is something I am doing because most claim the flavor is enhanced with the Reo.

2. Attys...is there anything more frustrating? I was doing just fine until this afternoon...no flavor, barely a throat hit, etc. So, I'm assuming my atty died (it is a LR 510 - don't recall where I bought it). Then, I read a post about someone using a Carto with the Reo. Fortunately, I have a ton of those on me right now, so I am not without my PV. (I also have 3 attys with me too, but they all have the same issue)

3. Just read that the battery should have button on the + side...I ordered $100 worth of batteries that don't have the +...UGH. The Reo still works, but would that affect flavor? (MY guess is no)

There has to be a better way to get info...the Reo thread is enormous! And don't get me wrong, I am thankful to have found this forum...I just don't have enough time to read every thing I need to (apparently). Recommendations for best e-liquid and attys (long lasting is of utmost importance) would be awesome!
 

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I use a cisco lr atty on my REO and it works well.
I'm not a professional vaper like some by any means so take it as you may!
I think pretty much any atty {510} will work with your REO, now you might want to pm Rob and ask him what his preference is but I really haven't seen that much of a difference imo.
Although I do love the cisco lr atty's.
With a great device like the REO I think the atty is almost an "accessory" and I'm sure many will disagree with my findings!
Bornagainst also cautioned me about using cartos with juices that are 100%vg.
My take is it makes it very hard to draw with some of the heavier flavors like chocolate if it's all vg
unless you are using a pg juice.
If I'm wrong about cartos please correct me.:p
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Sorry to read you are having problems. I am not familiar with the Reo so will not begin to try to respond to this message.
Bumping for people with Reo experience.

Do we have a Reo section here in the forum?
Is the supplier listed here in the supplier forum?

Maybe you can post there and some help with these issues.

Paula


Cigarbabe posted while I was writing my note. - LOL
 

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I use a cisco lr atty on my REO and it works well.
I'm not a professional vaper like some by any means so take it as you may!
I think pretty much any atty {510} will work with your REO, now you might want to pm Rob and ask him what his preference is but I really haven't seen that much of a difference imo.
Although I do love the cisco lr atty's.
With a great device like the REO I think the atty is almost an "accessory" and I'm sure many will disagree with my findings!
Bornagainst also cautioned me about using cartos with juices that are 100%vg.
My take is it makes it very hard to draw with some of the heavier flavors like chocolate if all vg ,unless you are using a pg juice.
If I'm wrong about cartos please correct me.:p
Here are some of the vendors I love ;
Kick Bass Vapor http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...open-come-wet-carto-atty-ordering-thread.html
Ms. T's Bakery Ms T's Bakery Essentials
DIYflavorshack.com http://www.diyflavorshack.com/default.asp
and Tastyvapor.us Tasty Vapor
All of these places will whip up juices to your specifications although Ms. T's doesn't she will lower the nicotine if you need it done.
C.B.
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I use a cisco lr atty on my REO and it works well.
I'm not a professional vaper like some by any means so take it as you may!
I think pretty much any atty {510} will work with your REO, now you might want to pm Rob and ask him what his preference is but I really haven't seen that much of a difference imo.
Although I do love the cisco lr atty's.
With a great device like the REO I think the atty is almost an "accessory" and I'm sure many will disagree with my findings!
Bornagainst also cautioned me about using cartos with juices that are 100%vg.
My take is it makes it very hard to draw with some of the heavier flavors like chocolate if all vg
unless you are using a pg juice.
If I'm wrong about cartos please correct me.:p
:evil:C.B.

+1 I too use a cisco spec LR306 on my Grand...and I am also a BWB fan. I have found a couple of his juices I am getting better flavor by going back down to a standard atty. On the other hand, some seem to be holding up just fine, if not doing better with the LR. You might find you do better with the SR attys. Just a suggestion for the OP. Good luck
 

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Hi Skivy2.
Backwoods Brew is pretty good from what I hear but I haven't tried their juices yet. I was using FSUSA and Mrs T's juices when I started among a few others but found Alien Visions e-Juice while reading the REO thread like 4 months ago and have been hooked ever since. But it is 90% - 100% VG. Having flavor issues aren't because of you or the mod. The biggest player in flavor is usually the atomizers, at least in my experience.

So, having read the other posts in here, Phorbin makes a good point. Sometimes using a different atomizer for a type of juice is beneficial....like a LR306 or a Standard 510 or whatever. Also, these atomizers come with a variety of resistances...or ohms. For instance a 1.5 ohm will burn warmer than a 2.0 ohm. This will play a difference in how the flavor is translated and its not the same for all flavors. Ya....I have no time for that so I found two attys that work for me and I ceased looking for improvement. I have a LR510 2.0 ohm and a LR306 1.5 ohm. Cartomizers work as well, though I don't have an opinion on how they work as I don't use them. Some folks like them.

As far as the battery is concerned, no...it will not directly affect the flavor. The only way it would is how much power its putting out, which affects the atomizer....you see where I'm going with this.

The unfortunate part is that there is trial and error in finding your sweet spot with every PV. And the REOs are no different in that respect. When I switched from my eGos to the REOs everything about what I thought I enjoyed about vaping changed. I no longer use the same flavors and have actually lowered my nic level by 25%. I used to not care about vapor production....for me it was all about flavor. Now I can't truly enjoy vaping if I'm not exhaling giant clouds....but don't get me wrong....Flavor is still key. I wish I could just tell you what to buy and it would work, but we all have individual tastes and I have no idea what would work for you.

I agree that the REO thread is huge...and to answer pkj...no, no supplier forum yet. Hopefully someday it will happen. In the mean time we (fellow REO owners) do our best to answer questions as they are posted in the gigantic thread. Its easier than searching in there, that's for sure.

Another suggestion, which I'm sure you've probably heard many times before...make sure you're drinking plenty of hydrating liquids. I know this sounds wierd, but it is different than vaping an eGo...so you should be aware that it is common to vape heavily in the beginning, so more water would be a good thing.

Last but not least....you are welcome to contact me via PM if you have more questions. I'm no expert, but I try...and if I don't know the answer, I'll find it. You are also most welcome to drop a line in the thread and ask for help. There are usually a handful of folks that would be happy to help, even if its through PM. I hope this helps, Skivy2. Please keep us posted!
 
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Wow - you guys are awesome! Thank you so much!! I understand how big a role the atty plays now and will try to find some LR 510s. I have some already and cleaned them last night just in case that was causing the problem. Right now, I am using a LR 510 with Vapor Bomb Cinnacide and it appears to be working just fine.

Thank you all for your comments. I'll stock up on attys and will become well-versed on atty maintenance. I really appreciate your help!
 

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Wow - you guys are awesome! Thank you so much!! I understand how big a role the atty plays now and will try to find some LR 510s. I have some already and cleaned them last night just in case that was causing the problem. Right now, I am using a LR 510 with Vapor Bomb Cinnacide and it appears to be working just fine.

Thank you all for your comments. I'll stock up on attys and will become well-versed on atty maintenance. I really appreciate your help!

i would like to suggest avidvaper.com for the "cisco spec" attys. The cisco spec is a more durable design making your attys last longer. I have been using them almost exclusively for about 6 weeks now and I'm thrilled with the vapor and flavor. He has 306,510,801 and 901 attys in both 1.5 ohm and 2.0 ohm, so that covers a lot of bases. Good luck!
 

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Puffing a REO Grand with 1.5 ohm LR-510 and BWB Cappuccino (very potent stuff) right now.
Hits like a Mack truck.
I've got to be careful, I bruise easy.

Yeah, I'm going to try a 2 ohm atty with that BWB Cappuccino stuff.
For me, at 1.5 ohm its a little on the strong side.
BWB Applewood on the otherhand is just fine at 1.5 ohm.
 

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First off, I highly doubt the reo is to blame. From my experience, Backwoods brew juices have significantly less flavor than the 30+ other vendors I've tried. I get flamed EVERY time I say this o_O

+893275490384 for the cisco 306 LR atty :)

!!! WOW !!!
You've tried over 30 other vendor's juices, and they are all better than BWB.
How could anyone have a problem with that?
You've convinced me to stop vaping that BWB crap.
 
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!!! WOW !!!
You've tried over 30 other vendor's juices, and they are all better than BWB.
How could anyone have a problem with that?
You've convinced me to stop vaping that BWB crap.

LOL! I didn't say they were better, I said they had more flavor. I prefer a lot of flavor... OBVIOUSLY you do too! YAY!

I should be very specific and say SOME of BWB juices because I haven't tried them all.
 

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Very Important:
One thing I have proven about the REO is that a dot of Noalox on the switch contact is not optional. Without Noalox the switch performance will definitely not be optimal and will get worse until the switch fails to fire altogether. This will affect vapor production, flavor, TH, all that good stuff.
You must use Noalox
 
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