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I FEEL LIKE A NOOB AGAIN!

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by hiltsbilt, Aug 3, 2019.

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  1. hiltsbilt

    hiltsbilt Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    webster city IA
    Fork me, things have changed... (backstory) Been vaping since 2010, and started making my own e-liquid in about 2012. took about the last 6-8 months off and now I'm doing research to replace my old and beet Mech tube mod... and holy crap things are different. We have like Pods now, salt nick and I missed the whole sub-ohm tank thing since I have been doing the RDA thing, and then there's the e-liquid... when the heck did it become affordable, I used to pay $30 for 30mil and I go to a shop earlier in the week and got like 100mil for like $25 and that was a shop price which is a little more than online! holy crap I'm not going to make liquid again for a while, I like simple and it's just more affordable now. But I think ill end up getting a regulated mod that comes with a tank and pick up a new RDA (want to try something other than round wire). The only thing is I prefer rebuildable because buying atomizers gets old after 9 years... Maybe a squonker thing?
     
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  2. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    SE PA
    A competitive market couldn't sustain a whole lot vendors charging $30 for a bottle of liquid that costs $1.00 to make. ;)

    The exception is pre-filled pods. Do the math on a $4.00 Juul pod that holds 0.7ml. :eek:
     
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  3. DeloresRose

    DeloresRose Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2014
    toledo ohio
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    Did somebody say squonkers? :D
     
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  4. hiltsbilt

    hiltsbilt Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    webster city IA
    Nice! I think it might be the best fit for me, I just dig RDAs because I can make my own coils and I have had so many leaky crappy tanks over the years that I'm not excited to use one at all. kind of want to try a pod also but just for easy carry mouth to lung type of thing. what's your fave squonk ATM?
     
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  5. DeloresRose

    DeloresRose Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2014
    toledo ohio
    I’m still pretty new to the squonk game (believe it or not) but I guess my favorite is the Luna - must be or I wouldn’t have so many. They’re unregulated but protected, and I thought that was a good way to dip my toe in the unregulated pool.

    I can’t complain about any of the ones I have. Don’t use the Topside dual as much as the others simply because it’s so dang big and heavy lol.

    I build around .3- .4 single coils mostly anyway, so single 18650 mods are sufficient. Nice to have a couple dual battery mods on hand too.

    I’ve tried a couple AIOs and like the Flint and Biip, but I just got a Flow pod and it’s my favorite tiny vape.
     
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  6. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    I thought I heard someone say squonk....
     
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  7. ShowerHead

    ShowerHead Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 23, 2014
    Massachusetts
    Locally, single Juul pods go for $13.99 in convenience stores and gas stations.
    I was shaking my head just today.
     
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  8. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    SE PA
    I didn't realize Juul pods were sold in single packages. I've only ever seen them in packs of four.

    <Checking Juul's site -- time passes>

    Looks like Juul now has two-packs. List is $9.99. Call it $5 per pod.

    And they still offer four-packs for $15.99, or $4 per pod.

    Are you sure there aren't two pods in one of those $13.99 packages?

    Is Taxachusetts living up to it's name? ;)
     
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  9. hiltsbilt

    hiltsbilt Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    webster city IA
    forget that, if I get a pod it will be refillable. I'm way past the disposable stage lol
     
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  10. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Hmmm.. a quick catch up:

    Mechs now have safety issues
    Batteries got a lot more powerful but retained the same form factor and as a result mechs in general are out of favor because the safety measures that worked for the old batteries don’t work for the new ones anymore and the result is significant danger. They’re not impossible to use, but you literally do not dare screw up. Ever.

    “Salt nic” is not looked at with universal kindness
    The issue is it was invented and marketed by company who used opaque and misleading marketing and so far as anyone can tell did no safety testing at all. There is not one kind of “salt” there are hundreds of possible ones and something like 6 or 8 different compounds which are all commonly marketed as “salt”. Long term effects for the different compounds are totally unknown, unlike unprotonated nic that researchers have been messing with since the 1960’s.
    It has some advantages though. Namely variable throat hit and as a result some smokers that can not tolerate regular nic can tolerate protonated stuff.
    It’s on my personal “oh hell no” list but there are many here who disagree with this assessment.

    VV mods have gotten a LOT better, cheaper, and more powerful
    There are $30 mods out today that outperform stuff that would have cost $150 in 2012. They’ve become the standard goto instead of mechs. They have a lot of built in safety features, and dial-wattage and Temperature Control vastly simplify things.

    Pods are basically oddly shaped carto cigalikes, more or less.
    They’re (usually but not always) a return to the bad old days of cigalikes, but with a few improvements. They tend to have larger juice reservoirs and (slightly) bigger coils and wicks. Also they're proprietary from stem to stern generally. Continuing use costs get obnoxiously large fast. While many of them are imho actually functionally inferior to an old kanger ego a few of them offer improvements to the old devices. Pricing is not generally one of them though.
     
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  11. hiltsbilt

    hiltsbilt Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    webster city IA
    Nice, Thank you :)
     
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  12. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
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  13. AngeNZ

    AngeNZ Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2018
    New Zealand
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  14. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Oh! One more..

    Friends don’t let friends buy SMOK
    SMOK used to make some pretty good carto refills. The vast vast majority of their new hardware redefines the term “low grade crap”. They’ve become famous for abysmal quality control and their devices have a reputation for dying in mere weeks or months.
     
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  15. hiltsbilt

    hiltsbilt Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    webster city IA
    No worries, I have an RDA from them that I don't like, and I also don't
    like the company name anyway lol
     
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  16. hiltsbilt

    hiltsbilt Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    webster city IA
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  17. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Ironically their RDA lines are least affected by these problems. It’s the stuff with electronics and especially batteries in them that are particularly bad.
     
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  18. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Ultra Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    Anything by Smok, that could smok, can smok, and, given how smok owners treat smok products, most likely will smok.
     
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  19. Earthtograce

    Earthtograce Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 6, 2016
    Baltimore,MD
    Pods are very easy for me! I love that it’s no mess, flavors are good , and salt nic satisfies my itch while I’m out or at work without having to chain vape. I use the MIPod. You can refill the cartridges 5 or 6 times and one cartridge lasts me about a day.


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  20. hiltsbilt

    hiltsbilt Full Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    webster city IA
    Right on, Thank you
     
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