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The Ocelot

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I've never used anything but Vivi novas and still have my originals which i keep rebuilding. I had them since Jan. and they are still going strong. I think that all systems come with their own set of problems from what I've been reading on the forums and also on this thread. I don't know How many times I've read about the Protank leaking but it's got to be in the hundreds by now. Like i said though I've never used anything else but Vivi novas so cannot form an opinion on that subject.However. That said. I do respect both of your opinions on the subject and therefore I've ordered myself a Protank mainly because they look nice and have a better fit to the vamo and Tesla. I just hope it doesn't leak else i'll be gunning for you both:D:D:D

If you do have a problem, send me a PM before you go after them or start removing "flavor wicks." The Protank and I went through couple's counseling a few months ago and found a way to communicate.
 

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I've never used anything but Vivi novas and still have my originals which i keep rebuilding. I had them since Jan. and they are still going strong. I think that all systems come with their own set of problems from what I've been reading on the forums and also on this thread. I don't know How many times I've read about the Protank leaking but it's got to be in the hundreds by now. Like i said though I've never used anything else but Vivi novas so cannot form an opinion on that subject.However. That said. I do respect both of your opinions on the subject and therefore I've ordered myself a Protank mainly because they look nice and have a better fit to the vamo and Tesla. I just hope it doesn't leak else i'll be gunning for you both:D:D:D

My RSST arrives today, so I am already searching for greener pastures, my friend. That said, if you build your own coils with cotton wicks on the Protank, it will make you very happy, IMHO. Although I do use the prebuilt coils too. They are good for about 15-20 mls of service life each.

If I like the RSST, a kayfun will be next. I hear they rock the house.



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If you do have a problem, send me a PM before you go after them or start removing "flavor wicks." The Protank and I went through couple's counseling a few months ago and found a way to communicate.

I am glad you worked it out, you guys make a cute couple...

Tell Junior I am picking him up for a trip to Vegas next weekend.



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I am glad you worked it out, you guys make a cute couple...

Tell Junior I am picking him up for a trip to Vegas next weekend.



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Just so you know, he's been having some anger issues lately.

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I've never used anything but Vivi novas and still have my originals which i keep rebuilding. I had them since Jan. and they are still going strong. I think that all systems come with their own set of problems from what I've been reading on the forums and also on this thread. I don't know How many times I've read about the Protank leaking but it's got to be in the hundreds by now. Like i said though I've never used anything else but Vivi novas so cannot form an opinion on that subject.However. That said. I do respect both of your opinions on the subject and therefore I've ordered myself a Protank mainly because they look nice and have a better fit to the vamo and Tesla. I just hope it doesn't leak else i'll be gunning for you both:D:D:D

And me. Protanks are great. There's a little card that comes with the Protank the gives you suggestions for voltages at certain coil resistances. Use it, the volts are less than you think, but they equate to 6 - 6.5 watts.

Normal story: Someone gets a Protank and tries to run it at 8 watts. This works fine for a little while and the user is impressed by the huge clouds of vapour and big flavour, but then it starts to burn the juice. User comes on ECF and complains about burning. Other users reply and say all the user has to do is take some of the flavour wicks out because it's not wicking fast enough. User does that, but all that happens is that the coil floods and gurgles. Someone (often me, it seems) points out that Kanger recommend 6.5 watts which is then jumped on by people saying they vape a Protank at 11 watts. :facepalm:

Here's the real story: The first few vapes on a protank are a little cold. Don't be put off by this. You can run it at 8 watts for a few puffs if you like, but do NOT forget to turn it back down. You'll know when it's up to temperature, the base will feel warm. If you're running it at 6.5 watts and it's a really cold day or you are vaping a thick juice you may indeed need it to wick a little faster. The way to do this is to turn the little rubber cap that fits over the head upside down. Removing flavour wicks should be the last resort, not the first port of call.

A few other tips:
*If you think the vapour is good at first, wait until the glass is warm and the coil is run in, which takes about 1ml or so.
*If you do burn the coil you might as well change it out. It's always going to taste like doggy doo-doo.
*If you don't take flavour wicks out you can usually vape them down to the last drop.
*If you do take a flavour wick out, then it's more likely to flood the lower the level in the tank (it's to do with the larger amount of air which can expand and let liquid into the coil more easily)
*It's bottom coil/wick; it's going to get over saturated (flooded) overnight or from time to time. Turn it upside down and blow through the base. Give it a flick to expel any extra drops in the tube and you're good to go.
*If you can't get it working right, send it to fabricator4 C/- Mackay Queensland


I'm also a fan of the Vapeonly Mega which preceded the Protank, but they really are fiddly. I had to open up the airflow and they really do have a tendency to flood easily. Great Vapour though...

I always found that the CE5s, Vivis etc, while they didn't exactly leak as such, they always let a drop of juice through to the 510 connector. I was always taking the device off and cleaning it. The Protanks don't do this. It just seems to be a bit of condensation at the end of the day, even if it has flooded. I think this is due to the design of the head.
 
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Just so you know, he's been having some anger issues lately.

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Why so kitty?
I just partook in the ProTank 2 co-op, and being me, rebuilt it straight off, 1.1 ohm coil with 28g and cotton wick pulled from a Q-tip. Performance has been phenomenal! I did, however experience the flooding at low tank levels but, just filled it back up and all is right in the world. No leaking at all.

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I've never used anything but Vivi novas and still have my originals which i keep rebuilding. I had them since Jan. and they are still going strong. I think that all systems come with their own set of problems from what I've been reading on the forums and also on this thread. I don't know How many times I've read about the Protank leaking but it's got to be in the hundreds by now. Like i said though I've never used anything else but Vivi novas so cannot form an opinion on that subject.However. That said. I do respect both of your opinions on the subject and therefore I've ordered myself a Protank mainly because they look nice and have a better fit to the vamo and Tesla. I just hope it doesn't leak else i'll be gunning for you both:D:D:D

No offense meant to your viv novas I just had a bad experience with um, but you're right I am sure there are just as as many horror stories about Protanks. Though If you do come after I must warn you I am trained by ancient foo-foot masters in the art of Pancake-Fu.

 

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Just so you know, he's been having some anger issues lately.

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He just needs a firm hand of discipline. Don't worry, I have lots of practice with wayward cubs...

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Regarding the Protank, the theory I put forth in March (that no one believed) has been proven to be true. The Protank doesn't like to be cold. When I first got mine, it gurgle, leaked, sputtered and drove me up the wall - then I figured it out. It is very cold in the part of the house where I keep my gear and the glass on the Protank is so thick it stays cold for a very long time. The glass and metal are cold, so the juice is cold. If you try to vape it at that point, the little coli at the bottom doesn't produce enough heat on it's own to heat all the juice, so it's trying to vaporize cold juice. It is not happy. Glass carto tanks work when they are cold, because the coil goes up the center and the juice warms as it's wicked through the filler.

If your Protank is cold, even if it doesn't gurgle, it won't produced much vapor. Try holding it in your hands for awhile or setting it next to a heater. As soon as the glass feels warm it will work fine.
 

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just stopping in to say hey. Yesterday my oldest turned 12...bought her (against my better judgement but she watches them online play it so pointless not to get it) Grand Theft Auto 5 for her and then after realising our xbox 360 sucks and only has a 4gb hd and it takes 8gb just to install the game :p bought a 32gb flash drive for the xbox ;) so spent all last night watching her cause mayhem (fyi not a 2 player game but can be multiplayer online how's that make sense?)
And today played a bit of minecraft and watched her play gta some more....
my folks took my youngest for the weekend as part of my oldests request....that was her real b'day request just 1-on-1 time with me :)
 

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Happy Bday Chelle, and where are you?

GTA 5 huh? I really like the GTA series, lot of humor on the talk radio channels. They parody everybody from the far left to the far right and almost everything in between. I am waiting for Steam to offer the game of the year edition in 2014 or 2015 for $25, then I'll get it. Happy birthday to your oldest.
 
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