I knew it was too good to be true!

[Litta'sGabby]

I quit the same day as you 4/15....Tax Day! The weekend before last I slept ALL weekend! I mean, ALL weekend. Now, I do have CFS so it happens to me often and especially if I am dehydrated. I got through it by upping my water intake and eating fruits and veggies and salads (the lettuce thing REALLY works! My thanks to whoever posted that on ECF 4 weeks ago!) Then I had a night of insomnia, and the only thing that helped me sleep was vaping an 18mg disposable I had tucked in my purse. Apparently I stepped down on my nic too fast. Now, I have the "coughing up stuff that I could not believe was in my lungs" phase!

 

[mkbilbo]

It's funny you mentioned the tooth pain. I became aware of two major cavities a few weeks after I made the switch. The pain was so bad I had to check myself and sure enough, they were big ones right at the gumline... ...big enough for me to run my fingernail through. The dentist was shocked to see them. He told me they probably started forming at least a year before.

My sleeping habits have definitely changed, as well. For the first month, I slept 2-3 hours longer on average, though I didn't feel groggy when I was awake, rather, I had a hard time containing the energy. There was a lot of foot tapping whenever I was doing something that didn't require much energy. I was in a bit of a fervor most of the time. It was just a blind drive towards doing things and stuff. I seem to have calmed down a lot lately though. I sleep less than I used to, but I feel more rested. And for once in my life, my circadian rhythm is consistent. I have never gone for more than a week without going off-course before, but I'm well over a month into going to bed at the same time and waking up at the same time every night/day now. The trade-off is that I have either several short, but memorable dreams or one long, ridiculously epic one every night. There's nothing abstract about them at all. Sometimes, they can be intensely unpleasant, but I find even those ones to be fascinating. I go lucid at least once week. Rather than thinking about the stress of the day to come, I now wake up thinking about the crazy dreams I just had. They are so vivid that I often find myself recalling the chains of events throughout the day.

A lot of that sounds very familiar. At first, I had a lot of energy. Didn't want to sit still. Got tons of things done. Thought, "this is great!" Then slowed down to a more "normal" pace. Then this happened. At first, it was just a bit more sluggish in the morning. Nothing spectacular. And I've always been slow to wake. That was nothing unusual. But the past couple of days, it's gone bonkers. My mother called at 11 this morning and woke me up! Whathehuh?

I do the "home office" thing so it's not going to disrupt work (the economy has done that... wheee!). But just, wham!, I wanna nap all the time. Past couple of days, it takes an act of Congress to get anything done around here. No, wait, I'm still getting more done than Congress. Never mind!

And I could do without the dreams. At least, I don't remember them. Then again, I stumbled into a tactic of distracting myself on waking and letting the dream be forgotten. You know, the way they normally do if you don't make the effort to remember them? I sort of fell into a habit of deliberately letting bad dreams "fade" by distracting myself soon as I woke.

Never pulled off lucid anything except one thing that happened by sheer accident when I was very young. I shut down "nightmares" by telling myself, "It's a dream, wake up and it'll be over". First few times, heard myself "say" something like that and woke up. Only lucid anything I've managed. Did pretty much end "nightmares". Even all these years later, still sometimes get out of bed, muttering irritated at some dream or other. An unpleasant dream in the morning? I get a kind of... "I'm outta here" attitude and get up to get away from it. At some level, I'm aware "it's just a dream" and can bail on bad ones.

Except a lot of these. I can ignore them into being forgotten but I can't always pull the "Just wake up" trick. Which I'm very used to after years and years of doing it. These... it's like a "bad taste" left behind. I don't like it.

<mutter> <grumble>



I just hope the drowsy levels off soon. I'm not getting hardly anything done. I mean even laundry is piling up. Yeesh!

 

[mkbilbo]

Now, I have the "coughing up stuff that I could not believe was in my lungs" phase!

Oof. I haven't had that. Given how much and how long I smoked, I don't know if I should worry it's not happening or be afraid of it happening. I mean, I must have so much gunk in my lungs, I could cough until the sun goes out.

 

[midnight.fairy]

I had no idea about the 3 day, 3 weeks, 3 months to get it all out of your system. I've noticed I'm feeling more tired lately and never thought about it having anything to do with quitting cigarettes. I guess it's possible for me since I'm around the 3 month mark. Still wouldn't go back to smoking though, especially after this anti smoking comercial I just saw on TV. That stuff never bothered me before oddly enough.

 

[BostLabs]

No, wait, I'm still getting more done than Congress. Never mind!

Boy you got that right brother. LOL!

I'm sleeping better, better than I have in a while. But during the day I'm more alert (ok I do nap a little but that is the diabetic part doing that).

 

[SharonMM]

Not night terrors but the dreams are... screwy. I don't remember any now but I know I've woken up thinking, "That is messed up!"

They have suddenly become hyper-real and weird. Normal dreaming for me is a random mush of crazy. Never much in the way of "plot". Just moments that half make sense segueing into other ones that make some other half sense. Just... goofy. I rarely get "realistic" dreams. And it's never good when I do. I've described them as "old style gothic". That 19th century, relentlessly bad, not quite "horror" in the modern sense but more old line "tragic". Everybody dies, everything goes wrong, every "rescue" attempt is a failure, and it goes on and on and on...

Bleah.



Absolutely.

Right now, I'm not bothering to "track" my spending. I can tell I'm easily spending less than cigs (especially after that last round of tax hikes!) but I'll worry about "budgeting" later. I figure I'll spend money on my health one way or the other...

Yea, messed up is right. Dreaming like VIVIDLY about talking to dead relatives, and they are all like warning me about something but I don't know what, I dreamed that these giant pterodactyls were swooping down from the sky and eating my kids. I was locked inside a building and couldn't get out to save them. I dream about my mother a lot, about trying to communicate with her but she doesn't understand .. And a bunch of other weird stuff that just, really scares me. And I know, rationally, its just a dream but somehow I'm still not able to shake it off that easily. Maybe my body chemistry is out of whack and I have too many "frightened" neurochemicals going through my head, or something, idk... But I like, dont even look forward to going to bed anymore because I know I'm going to be woken up with this crazyness. Sleeping used to be my favorite thing to do too. Well, second favorite.

So yeah, it kinda sucks. But cancer would suck more so I guess i'll deal with it. Maybe ill try some yoga or detox tea or something.


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[Papacrane]

My last cig was the same day I started on an E Cig...Feb 11 / this yr. People ask me if I notice a difference, feeling better etc. No, I feel the same...wish I did " feel better "! My kids and Dad have told me I " look " better....skin more " bright "?? Hey I'll take looking better anyday!

 

[retired1]

Pro tip. Naps are good!

 

[Litta'sGabby]

In my <many> prior attempts to quit smoking, I tried to use the Nicotine Patch. I ended up not being able to use them, but I had horrible night terrors if I slept with them on. These dreams where to the point where I would wake myself up screaming (never did that before!) Once, I was dreaming I was being attacked by a dog and was punching at it in my dream. I woke myself (and my husband) with a small yell. Hubby asked if I was ok. I told him I had a horrible dream. His response was "I guess you were, you've been punching me for 5 minutes"! Maybe vape a lower nic mg when it's closer to bedtime. Might help with the dreams. So far my teeth and gums are fine, I just can't get my teeth as white as I want them to be since quitting smoking. Hope you get some rest soon!

 

[Snickerfritz]

The only physiological symptom I noticed when I started vaping, granted it'd been 10+ years since I smoked tobacco, was that I was having headaches when I would wake up in the morning for the first couple of weeks. It went away though.

 

[SharonMM]

In my <many> prior attempts to quit smoking, I tried to use the Nicotine Patch. I ended up not being able to use them, but I had horrible night terrors if I slept with them on. These dreams where to the point where I would wake myself up screaming (never did that before!) Once, I was dreaming I was being attacked by a dog and was punching at it in my dream. I woke myself (and my husband) with a small yell. Hubby asked if I was ok. I told him I had a horrible dream. His response was "I guess you were, you've been punching me for 5 minutes"! Maybe vape a lower nic mg when it's closer to bedtime. Might help with the dreams. So far my teeth and gums are fine, I just can't get my teeth as white as I want them to be since quitting smoking. Hope you get some rest soon!

Yep, its the nicotine.. I didn't even think of that! That makes a lot of sense because I vape so much more than I ever smoked... especially at night. I thought it was a withdrawal symptom but nope I googled it and its the nicotine. For as many times as I've quit smoking I probably should've know that. I never used the patch before though. I know a big part of my addiction is the psychological aspect. Which is why vaping is working so well for me.. I don't feel deprived. I don't feel like I'm fighting myself all the time. It's nice

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[Wallelf]

My sleep patterns have been miserable for several years now…I’m a night owl and like nothing better than to sleep until 11am. I chalk it up to “that time of life” rather than to being a (former) smoker.

I was one of those lucky smokers that didn’t have the hacking cough, or any of the illnesses attributed to smoking. Plenty of energy, no trouble going up and down stairs (and ladders). I haven’t had a cold, or been sick in..oh, probably 15 years (I just jinxed myself, didn’t I?). The doctor would run his tests, all the while harping on the smoking; then the test results would come back perfectly normal. My main reason for quitting was the constant .....ing from family, and the price of a carton had gone up to over $53.00. I figure I was spending close to $75/week. Good Grief!

Now, while I don’t feel any different, the only thing I notice is the improved sense of smell and I’m finally about $500 in the black after all my vaping purchases. I still have a day here and there where I really want a smoke, but I’m able to power through it by vaping a bit of 24 mg wintergreen.

What were we talking about?

~Buff~

 

[MsComptrtchr]

Another thing to consider is the possibility of depression, which usually results in a lack of energy and desire to sleep. I am going through panic attacks and depression, but then I broke up with my bf of 8 years the DAY I quit smoking. Which came first the chicken (my ratty ex!) or the egg? But when it comes to smoking, many of us are parting with a beloved habit that we clung to for years, decades, you name it. There has to be some sort of sense of loss.

I'm at the 3 week mark. Weekends are terrible for me. I power through the week due to hectic work stuff, but then crash on the weekend. So, yeah, looking forward to tomorrow night through Sunday . . . not.

 

[supermarket]

for me I noticed my gums and teeth hurt worse than normal for a little bit, then all the sudden they are no longer sensitive to hot/cold like they used to be, and usually my upper outside gum area is sore because not only do I prefer salty/vinigary snacks but I brush like i'm trying to clean the opposite side of my mouth. I've stopped being SO hard (I caused one area of my gum to rip and pull back from my canine when I was younger!) and use extra soft brushes now, but I still forget and brush like i'm cleaning grout. LOL.
since I started vaping and went through an ouch period I haven't had ANY pain, even the mild stuff I barely noticed before because i'd lived with it for so long!

I will also confirm , in my OWN experience, that vaping seems to be lacking some chemical and/or effect that tobacco had on numbing my teeth/gums.

My teeth have been bothering me since vaping, starting about 10 days in.


Also, in case my post isn't clear enough.....I'm not attributing this to vaping. I'm attributing it to no longer using tobacco products (cigarettes).

 

[mkbilbo]

I will also confirm , in my OWN experience, that vaping seems to be lacking some chemical and/or effect that tobacco had on numbing my teeth/gums.

My teeth have been bothering me since vaping, starting about 10 days in.

Also, in case my post isn't clear enough.....I'm not attributing this to vaping. I'm attributing it to no longer using tobacco products (cigarettes).

Yah, seems some of the poisons in cigs and such can suppress dental problems. Not treat, just mask. Which can mean the problem has time to get worse than if you'd noticed the symptoms sooner. Oh. Goodie.

Somebody hurry up and invent a time machine so I can go back and kick my rear for ever starting?

 

[mkbilbo]

Yea, messed up is right. Dreaming like VIVIDLY about talking to dead relatives, and they are all like warning me about something but I don't know what, I dreamed that these giant pterodactyls were swooping down from the sky and eating my kids. I was locked inside a building and couldn't get out to save them. I dream about my mother a lot, about trying to communicate with her but she doesn't understand .. And a bunch of other weird stuff that just, really scares me. And I know, rationally, its just a dream but somehow I'm still not able to shake it off that easily. Maybe my body chemistry is out of whack and I have too many "frightened" neurochemicals going through my head, or something, idk... But I like, dont even look forward to going to bed anymore because I know I'm going to be woken up with this crazyness. Sleeping used to be my favorite thing to do too. Well, second favorite.

So yeah, it kinda sucks. But cancer would suck more so I guess i'll deal with it. Maybe ill try some yoga or detox tea or something.


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Fortunately, I can't remember mine except in a vague, nagging feeling kinda way. And enough to say, "yeah, like that" when reading about yours. Something so nutty, it should make you laugh but it's... that old word "dreadful" fits. Like pterodactyls? Now? Shouldn't that be too zany to take seriously? But you do. Even if at some level you have this weird, "this is stupid" feeling, you take it all at face value and it's freaking awful?

Bleah.

Yeah, it's got to be neurotransmitters shifting around and trying to adapt to what is really a very, very major change. Even having smoked for years, I was stunned at the sheer number of chemicals in modern cigs. Vaping gives you the nic, making it way easier to switch over, but several thousand (!) other things you were pumping in yourself without knowing have gone missing suddenly.

But, yeah, cancer, emphysema, heart attacks... those would be a lot worse than this!

And having actually stopped smoking after so many failed attempts, I almost have an "escaped prisoner" thing going. I ain't goin' back! No way. Nuh uh. Got too far this time. First ever "quit" where I did not want to smoke anymore. The "don' wanna" is the stronger of the two now. That's never happened with "cessation" products. If I get any vague, wistful feelings about cigs, part of me reacts like it saw a snake and chases the feeling around with a hoe, trying to whack it to death.

Well... bad dreams won't kill me. Smoking? Can't say the same.

For fun, my brain decided to flip things around and try insomnia last night. So... the one time I need "drowsy", I'm not.

I suspect my neurotransmitters are having a temper tantrum...

 

[mkbilbo]

Yea, messed up is right. Dreaming like VIVIDLY about talking to dead relatives, and they are all like warning me about something but I don't know what, I dreamed that these giant pterodactyls were swooping down from the sky and eating my kids. I was locked inside a building and couldn't get out to save them. I dream about my mother a lot, about trying to communicate with her but she doesn't understand .. And a bunch of other weird stuff that just, really scares me. And I know, rationally, its just a dream but somehow I'm still not able to shake it off that easily. Maybe my body chemistry is out of whack and I have too many "frightened" neurochemicals going through my head, or something, idk... But I like, dont even look forward to going to bed anymore because I know I'm going to be woken up with this crazyness. Sleeping used to be my favorite thing to do too. Well, second favorite.

So yeah, it kinda sucks. But cancer would suck more so I guess i'll deal with it. Maybe ill try some yoga or detox tea or something.


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Fortunately, I can't remember mine except in a vague, nagging feeling kinda way. And enough to say, "yeah, like that" when reading about yours. Something so nutty, it should make you laugh but it's... that old word "dreadful" fits. Like pterodactyls? Now? Shouldn't that be too zany to take seriously? But you do. Even if at some level you have this weird, "this is stupid" feeling, you take it all at face value and it's freaking awful?

Bleah.

Yeah, it's got to be neurotransmitters shifting around and trying to adapt to what is really a very, very major change. Even having smoked for years, I was stunned at the sheer number of chemicals in modern cigs. Vaping gives you the nic, making it way easier to switch over, but several thousand (!) other things you were pumping in yourself without knowing have gone missing suddenly.

But, yeah, cancer, emphysema, heart attacks... those would be a lot worse than this!

And having actually stopped smoking after so many failed attempts, I almost have an "escaped prisoner" thing going. I ain't goin' back! No way. Nuh uh. Got too far this time. First ever "quit" where I did not want to smoke anymore. The "don' wanna" is the stronger of the two now. That's never happened with "cessation" products. If I get any vague, wistful feelings about cigs, part of me reacts like it saw a snake and chases the feeling around with a hoe, trying to whack it to death.

Well... bad dreams won't kill me. Smoking? Can't say the same.

For fun, my brain decided to flip things around and try insomnia last night. So... the one time I need "drowsy", I'm not.

I suspect my neurotransmitters are having a temper tantrum...

 

[HazMatt]

zzz...huh, what...zzz
I am at the three-week mark and I am also feeling sleepy all the time. I'm not having any dreams, at least none that I can remember. But, I believe I am sleeping better.

It sucks knowing you have things that need to be accomplished and not having to drive to get them done.

Side note: I just had the strongest craving I've had in the last 3 weeks! Four minutes of chain vaping 24mg e-juice kicked that caving's .... though...and gave me a case of hiccups.

My dental health is never been good. Neither of my parents have had good dental health either. But, I have not noticed any increase in dental pain.

I'm hoping this case of the "lazys" ends soon.

The hiccups are gone

 

[Worzel]

When I used to smoke, I would pretty much be a comatose sleeper, now that I vape, I am pretty much a cadaver. I sleep straight through. The only things that wake me is if the air is too dry and I cough, or REALLY have to use the bathroom. I can sleep through 4 conures honking in the morning, and an African Gray next to my bedroom door rambling on and screaming at her toy. I work nights because an alarm cannot wake me!

 

[mkbilbo]

So, sometime last evening, somebody threw a switch and I had insomnia. And have been jittery like on a caffeine "buzz" all day long.

My neurotransmitters are having an all out tantrum...