RY4 is one of those juices where everyone does it a little different. Some focus on the tobacco with hints of vanilla and caramel, others go the other way, some omit the caramel ... it's like there could be an entire line of just different RY4 variants. I'm not a tobacco vaper, though I do find tobacco flavours do pair really well with certain other flavours, but because of that I do like MLV's RY4 because he doesn't focus so much on the tobacco, and his caramel flavouring is from his Wurthers so it's quite prominent and tasty. That said though I haven't tried Juggy's RY4, but probably will soon enough.