This really is an especially terrific section of an, overall, fantastic forum! I love that the little old lady you're all imagining, hearing about Aunt Rose, is about a mile away from the 4 feet 10 inches chock-full of piss and vinegar little 85-year-old broad that is my great aunt! But she's still just as sharp as a tack. She's teased me mercilessly (through her laughing and hacking) since I started vaping and has really worked hard to drew me back to the dark side!! Even with constant bouts of bronchitis she had no interest in any other pv. That's why it's such a testimony to the Reo Grand. She just plain liked it BETTER than her nasty Merits. Now she's tasked me with finding her a Werther's original vape, as well as one that tastes like Merits. My mom, however, is as sweet as my aunt is spicy; and she's just overwhelmed with joy that her aunt and daughter have made the switch. I doubt I'll be able to get her on this forum, as she still enjoys believing that the internet and internet forums are really for weirdos and social miscreants. But now I see that anything is possible. Sorry for such a digression! Back to decisions, decisions. You've voiced both sides of the debate in my head. I'd go for the vv, but I'm not as sure about its fool-proof sturdiness as I'd be with the Grand. Hyplainsdrifter, if you only knew my experience with electronics that could possibly fail. For me, they fail. I searched out a used car with roll-down windows...But you all would know if people ever regret getting the VV over the Grand, if it's markedly more finicky, or anything. I do like the vv experience with my Vamo, but this clutz could use a bit more input. Thank you all, so much!