I vape all day on 36mg but I've noted some vendors won't sell it, WHY?

[MagicMike]

Here locally in Orlando, FL we have a great selection of dealers which are all mostly a 1/2 hour drive from me. However I've been in a couple of dealers that don't stock over 24mg, while I vape all day on 36mg.

Do you think they are trying to be a step ahead of pending laws or do some folks actually get a buzz from the higher nic content?

I was in a retail store in downtown Orlando and heard their sales representative recommend 12mg juice to a pack and a half a day red smoker? Perhaps they were just setting them up to vape 10ml's a day, but that seems a bit low to me.

Perhaps I offset my nic with too much beer, but crap I don't ever get a buzz from 36mg. Even though some of the gum I've tried to use to quit smoking had my heart racing!

Do the vendors have a real reason not to stock 36mg? Has 36mg ejuice actually caused anyone issues?

MM

 

[Flcrack3r]

I smoked for quiet awhile.. And when I stopped I couldn't touch 24.. It made me so dizzy.. So I was starting at 18 now that's its been almost a year I'm at 6 and trying to go to no nic.. But maybe they don't sell 36 just cause its so high? I know too high of nic can make you very sick.. Maybe they don't want to be responsible for recommending such a high nic and that person gets ill from it

 

[windozehater]

for example if you vape 5mls of 36mg a day that is 180mg of nic your consuming 8-o(36mg for every ml) my mothr in law was vaping 5mls of 24mg for about 3months after quiting smoking. it exacerbated an underlying heart condition. selling 36mg is irresponsible, a loaded gun if you will, a veteran vaper would take care using this (small draw, less frequency) as opposed to a new user. if 16-18mg isnt giving enough throat hit you may want to look at a different device. eventually everyone comes to realize that what your chasing is a certain throat hit, my reasoning is if you smoked reds and some on gave you a ultralight you basically give off the same smoke, the nic delivery is real close EST. 18 vs 12 but what the ultralight is lacking is the throat hit, how many times have you had a U.L. and thought i'm not getting anything from these. in my case i think this is why i ended up smoking menthol. please, for all that is good and so we dont loose a fellow vaper to a stroke try some different devices with lower nic, ie. if your useing a stardust/nova, try a carto-tank try up-ing you voltage/wattage or test drive a genisis,

 

[oh u mad]

99% of people don't go higher than 24mg which is already too high (which is already higher than what a cigarette provides), you're in the minority

 

[Caridwen]

You need whatever strength that gets you off cigarettes. If it's 36mg, it's 36 mg. Doesn't matter what other people vape.

Here's a post from Rolygate:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2123-what-will-ecf-look-like.html#post8440301

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ette-vs-e-cigarette-nicotine-equivalency.html

There are vendors out there that sell 36 mg. Some may not advertise but if you ask they will make it for you.

If 36 mg. doesn't help cravings, you might want to try higher voltage devices, snus or WTA. 36 mg is the highest strength allowed to be sold by ECF suppliers.

 

[mmikee]

You need whatever strength that gets you off cigarettes. If it's 36mg, it's 36 mg. Doesn't matter what other people vape.

Here's a post from Rolygate:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2123-what-will-ecf-look-like.html#post8440301

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ette-vs-e-cigarette-nicotine-equivalency.html

There are vendors out there that sell 36 mg. Some may not advertise but if you ask they will make it for you.

If 36 mg. doesn't help cravings, you might want to try higher voltage devices, snus or WTA. 36 mg is the highest strength allowed to be sold by ECF suppliers.

Thanks ! Very good posts.

 

[flintlock62]

Most people don't even use 24 mg strength. I believe 18 mg is average. FDA has nothing to do with it because hardly anyone offered 36 mg even before the FDA scare.

 

[Omnipanzer]

Here locally in Orlando, FL we have a great selection of dealers which are all mostly a 1/2 hour drive from me. However I've been in a couple of dealers that don't stock over 24mg, while I vape all day on 36mg.

Do you think they are trying to be a step ahead of pending laws or do some folks actually get a buzz from the higher nic content?

I was in a retail store in downtown Orlando and heard their sales representative recommend 12mg juice to a pack and a half a day red smoker? Perhaps they were just setting them up to vape 10ml's a day, but that seems a bit low to me.

Perhaps I offset my nic with too much beer, but crap I don't ever get a buzz from 36mg. Even though some of the gum I've tried to use to quit smoking had my heart racing!

Do the vendors have a real reason not to stock 36mg? Has 36mg eJuice actually caused anyone issues?

MM

Short answer, it's too high and can make you sick if you have lets say a mechanical mod with no timed cut off. When I'm kicking I start with 36mg myself but I slip to 24 at the fist opportunity to do so. If you've been vaping 36mg for a long time it may be time to go ahead and plan out a drop imho.

 

[2nd chance]

for example if you vape 5mls of 36mg a day that is 180mg of nic your consuming 8-o(36mg for every ml) my mothr in law was vaping 5mls of 24mg for about 3months after quiting smoking. it exacerbated an underlying heart condition. selling 36mg is irresponsible, a loaded gun if you will, a veteran vaper would take care using this (small draw, less frequency) as opposed to a new user. if 16-18mg isnt giving enough throat hit you may want to look at a different device. eventually everyone comes to realize that what your chasing is a certain throat hit, my reasoning is if you smoked reds and some on gave you a ultralight you basically give off the same smoke, the nic delivery is real close EST. 18 vs 12 but what the ultralight is lacking is the throat hit, how many times have you had a U.L. and thought i'm not getting anything from these. in my case i think this is why i ended up smoking menthol. please, for all that is good and so we dont loose a fellow vaper to a stroke try some different devices with lower nic, ie. if your useing a stardust/nova, try a carto-tank try up-ing you voltage/wattage or test drive a genisis,

I suppose everyone is different, I have been vaping 24mg for almost 3 years now and have had no problems what so ever, I have a cardio issue that is watched and tested yearly and I have had no changes in either direction. In fact they are telling me to come in every 2 years now instead of yearly

 

[VapingRulz]

Do the vendors have a real reason not to stock 36mg? Has 36mg eJuice actually caused anyone issues?

I vaped it exclusively for over a year and had no problems at all. I think that the industry standard has settled in with a max level of 24mg so that's the guideline that most vendors follow. I don't think there's a health-related reason for it.

 

[MrsGlitteriffic]

I suppose everyone is different, I have been vaping 24mg for almost 3 years now and have had no problems what so ever, I have a cardio issue that is watched and tested yearly and I have had no changes in either direction. In fact they are telling me to come in every 2 years now instead of yearly

Sorry OT, but congrats on the better cardio health! That's awesome!

 

[adrkaushal]

Time for me to share my personal experience with 36 mg juices. I've been vaping since last 3 months. Why I started with 36 mg? The fear of getting back to the stinkies. That's why I picked up 36 mg juice so that it gives me the satisfaction I want and stay away from the stinkies.

I ordered 4 bottles 30 ml with 36 mg nic. For first two months, it was great. But in the third month, I realized how wrong I was to go with 36 mg. I started getting blisters in my mouth and on my tongue. Nothing too bad but small blisters here and there. I thought some antacids will help but then something worse. My tongue became reddish and started paining. I even felt my tongue had swollen a little. Taste buds not responding at all to the taste of juice. I was just sucking on dead juice, that's how I felt. Immediately ordered 24 mg juice and stopped vaping 36 mg. Its not even 10 days, all problems gone and I'm back to regular vaping.

Moral of the story, 36 mg is NOT good for you. Someone did give me advice right on these forums somewhere that I took and I can't find who that person was, can't find that post but it really helped me. Now I'm just finding some good "organic" eLiquids that have lesser chemical flavors, preservatives, perfume, etc. When I do find some flavors that become my daily vaping favorites, I'll think of cutting down the nic levels. Each of my orders from now onwards will be focused to cutting down the nic level.

Actually, if you cut down the nic levels, the eLiquids taste way better, my personal experience/opinion

A question for all the vaping gurus: Is there an expiry to the eLiquids? Like, eLiquid should be consumed within a certain time frame?

 

[flintlock62]

Typically, 2 years, if stored in a cool dark place.

Personally, I wouldn't vape 36 mg, but I'm not my brother's keeper.

A question for all the vaping gurus: Is there an expiry to the eLiquids? Like, eLiquid should be consumed within a certain time frame?

 

[Poeia]

It all depends on the way you vape. If you take one or two puffs an hour and wait for the next craving, I'm sure 36 mg is fine. If, in times of stress (or boredom or depression or …), you grab the electronic security blanket (what do you do with your hands if they don't have a cigarette in them?) and satisfy your oral fixation, at some point 36 mg is going to be much too much.

I smoked over 3 packs a day so I started with 24 mg and a little 36 mg to wake me up. One minor bout of nic poisoning (nausea, dizziness, etc.) made me realize that, while my cigarettes had that much nicotine in them, I only got a few puffs from each cigarette -- the majority burned in the ashtray. I got second hand smoke but not as much nicotine as I thought so I switched to 12 mg and now do 6 mg.

 

[metropolitan]

here's a poll from the forum regarding nicotine content preferences. from the results i'm assuming some dealers don't carry 36mg because they don't sell enough of to be worth keeping stock.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/186119-what-strength-e-liquid-do-you-vape.html

 

[2nd chance]

A lot of the juice venders now are putting expiration dates on the bottles, I have had some juices last about a year and a half that were perfectly fine for me, so about average is about a year to a year and a half ,IMO

 

[adrkaushal]

It all depends on the way you vape.

Been vaping a lot .. well, about 15 strong puffs every 2 to 4 hours. Pretty much like I used to smoke analogs, a cig every 2 to 4 hours. Bought eLiquid from a "not so popular" merchant. The bottle was pretty cheap 35 ml for $10.90 Camel flavor. Gotta avoid cheap eLiquids lol and go for quality stuff

 

[adrkaushal]

here's a poll from the forum regarding nicotine content preferences. from the results i'm assuming some dealers don't carry 36mg because they don't sell enough of to be worth keeping stock.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/186119-what-strength-e-liquid-do-you-vape.html

I was in the 5% range but now I'm in with 25% range vaping 24 mg

 

[subversive]

for example if you vape 5mls of 36mg a day that is 180mg of nic your consuming 8-o(36mg for every ml) selling 36mg is irresponsible, a loaded gun if you will, a veteran vaper would take care using this

Saying that you are getting 180 mg from 5ml of 36mg is not correct. Yes, each ml contains 36mg, but we don't absorb the majority of the nicotine. That is true of cigarettes and NRT as well.

I've used 36mg since I began vaping, and the first two companies I ever used carried it and still do. I would not have switched successfully without high nic liquid. I DIY now and sometimes have gone up a bit over 40mg. I try to cut back from time to time, but I haven't gotten below 24mg, which is what I am currently using. If I am craving cigarettes, my nic isn't high enough. If I am getting headaches and dizziness, my nic is too high. Those are my two rules. I want to reduce my nic more now than in the past simply because it'll make DIY even cheaper for me and as a safeguard against what the FDA may do.

 

[Thompson]

I made myself a 30mg batch of DIY and my word it blew my socks off. I feel I still have a major nicotine tolerance, but that didn't matter. I still have it & rarely use it.

here's a poll from the forum regarding nicotine content preferences. from the results i'm assuming some dealers don't carry 36mg because they don't sell enough of to be worth keeping stock.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/186119-what-strength-e-liquid-do-you-vape.html

I don't think thats why.

They rarely have liquids ready to go. Sample sizes mostly, and yeah having those at 36mg would seem a bit overkill.

But if your making juice by order, there is nothing stopping them from making 36mg except they don't want to offer it at all.