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mightymen

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    No you can't
    No computer chip needed.

    Went to my Doctor today and they have a new ID system in place where I had to place my right hand over a box. I wasn't aware of this being so common now.

    We have a built in ID system in our palms of our hands, now we don't need any computer chip to ID us. What's your thoughts on this and have you been using this system of ID and where.

    Revelation 13:16
    And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
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    Fujitsu Biometric Products | PalmSecure Palm Vein Authentication : Fujitsu United States

    Video was Published on Apr 14, 2014
     
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    mightymen

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    If you don't think this is right around the corner then check out this site.

    http://biyowallet.com/


    PulseWallet Lets You Pay For Things Via Your Veins
    The Huffington Post | By Emily Thomas Updated: 01/23/2014 10:53 am EST

    Ever had that awkward moment when you’re about to pay for coffee and you find out you've left your card at home and don't have enough change?

    Well, a new card-less payment service will let you pay by scanning your hand so you never have to worry about holding up the line.

    The PulseWallet syncs your credit card to the palm of your hand through the device’s internal biometric technology. Using built-in Fujitsu palm-scanning technology called Palm Secure, the electronic device photographs a person’s unique vein pattern just below the skin.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...scanning-payment_n_4564472.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
     

    Saintscruiser

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    Revelation 13:16-18 New King James Version (NKJV)

    16) He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17) and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18) Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.


    As scary as the vein scenario is, Scripture states that during the Tribulation period, a mark has to be received....not using existing technology. MM, I love the way you search out the news that is relavent! I dub thee the news updater. <------is that really a word??!! But you know what I mean. You do a great job on this!

    FYI - you know the phrase 'i before e except after c.' Okay, that's what we were taught in school....right? Well, what about the word 'vein?' It's a brain twister, isn't it???!!! :laugh:
     

    Saintscruiser

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    God gave Cain a mark that no man should take his life. In scripture there's many places were it says mark though its not like a brand/mark it not always as we think it is like on the flesh or some thing that can be seen by man but God sees these type of marks for God knows the heart of man.


    Revelation 7 New King James Version (NKJV)

    The Sealed of Israel
    7 After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.” 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:

    5 of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed;[a]
    of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed;
    of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed;
    6 of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed;
    of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed;
    of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed;
    7 of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed;
    of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed;
    of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed;
    8 of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed;
    of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed;
    of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.


    Notice the difference between a 'mark' and a 'seal.' In this instance, satan marks and God seals. I think there is a wealth of information there. Will have to ponder that one. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm:?: :)
     

    Saintscruiser

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    I am still pondering 'mark versus seal.' I have little insight into this, but inquiring minds want to know. Okay, look up seal and mark. What a difference!

    Seal - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Mark - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    From what my little finite mind understands, the main difference is: mark - identifies (Revelation 13:16-17); seal - makes secure - (Revelation 7:3-4).

    Check it and add to this thread! Give me your insight. I don't know what made me search this out, but you'll be able to differenciate the meanings......and there is a difference!:)
     

    mightymen

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    On the mark that God gave Cain, all humanity would have to know what the mark was for and all humanity would have needed to been told by God the purpose of this mark "when you see on Cain do not kill this man" now since not everyone heard/obeyed God's voice this doesn't seem possible to me so the mark I see as God marking all humanities heart not to kill Cain.

    When I try to understand scripture I look at the writer and how he/she was attempting to communicate a message in their time period.

    Here's a link that will supplier the meaning of seal and make also mark can mean a signature also MARK - JewishEncyclopedia.com

    This is only my opinion and how I understand it so far.

    When I look in Old Testament I see God looking at our heart and God seeing our heart as NOT being marked and not sealed yet until we receive salvation from God. They were those who had faith and it was counted as righteousness to them and this I see as a mark though the seal I see as JESUS and until JESUS died on the cross it wasn't available but soon as JESUS said it is finished it WAS.

    When I look at the word seal in New Testament, I see God marking our heart with Jesus.
    I see this as a Spiritual thing God does for us.

    Sorry I don't see scripture saying as there needs to be a mark on the flesh that God Identifier man/us with. Any mark on the flesh I see as man needing to Identifier man/us with for man/our purposes. I see this as a fleshly thing man does for man and not spiritual that CAN or CAN NOT lead us to God. Now the mark in Revelations, I'll take a guess at it as being a mark that man needs to buy and sell that will allow for a choice to be made - IF THIS IS SO THEN IT WILL BE KNOWN TO ALL BELIEVERS WHAT IT IS AND IT'S PURPOSE and a choice(freewill) be made to worship the beast or God.
     
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    Sorry I don't see scripture saying as there needs to be a mark on the flesh that God Identifier man/us with. Any mark on the flesh I see as man needing to Identifier man/us with for man/our purposes. I see this as a fleshly thing man does for man and not spiritual that CAN or CAN NOT lead us to God. Now the mark in Revelations, I'll take a guess at it as being a mark that man needs to buy and sell that will allow for a choice to be made - IF THIS IS SO THEN IT WILL BE KNOWN TO ALL BELIEVERS WHAT IT IS AND IT'S PURPOSE and a choice(freewill) be made to worship the beast or God. - Posted by MM


    I so totally agree. It does boil down to the decision of beast or God. There's no way to get around it. A choice has to be made. You're either for Him or against Him. There is no 'lukewarm.'

    I was talking about the Book of Revelation only. Sorry I didn't specify that. My bad. That's why I chose those Scriptures. The number 6 relates to man. And, the triple 6 is the 'unholy trinity.' Like I've said before, satan will try his best to imitate God to deceive 'the sea of people.' It's not going to be a picnic. :(
     

    mightymen

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    Like I've said before, satan will try his best to imitate God to deceive 'the sea of people.' It's not going to be a picnic. :(

    I don't know SC it just might be like a picnic to everyone after all those who follow satan will do it willingly and things would look a lot better to them almost like a picnic.

    Me as a believe if I'm here and go through it then I know God will provide everything I need including a white robe and yea it will be like going to a picnic with others of like minds sort of like a brunch before the big wedding feast with a big grin on my face :D <-- like this one.
     

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    I don't know SC it just might be like a picnic to everyone after all those who follow satan will do it willingly and things would look a lot better to them almost like a picnic.

    Me as a believe if I'm here and go through it then I know God will provide everything I need including a white robe and yea it will be like going to a picnic with others of like minds sort of like a brunch before the big wedding feast with a big grin on my face :D <-- like this one.


    AND, no weight gain! I was referring to those who work for 'the other side.' One thing I've found to be true is that satan bribes you and when you feel secure, he turns on you. I've seen it time and time again. It's who he is. How can we expect any better? Plus, you have to remember that the tribulation period is God's judgement.....not satan's.
     
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