Idiot Savant Looking for Tips

[Kytten]

Hello, strangers. Nice to 'e'meet you.


I started vaping about six months ago. I started with pens and generic, pre-built coils.
Around two - two and a half months ago, I upgrade to a 30W box mod and subtank minis with RBAs. I haven't been able to vape for a few weeks, though, because my coils are trashed and I've been unable to find the information I need to get the right kinds of coils. (I have issues trying to read through thousand-word pages on 'cloud chasing.' I just need to know basics. )
With it being Christmas, and since my longing for a more substantial cloud seems insatiable, I've decided to treat myself to a new box mod (I'm thinking a 50W iStick from fasttech - I currently have the 30W and occasionally want to go a bit higher than 30) and a few RBAs that can take the lower resistance that larger clouds require...
That being said, I have no idea what I'm really looking for. Every article I find about larger clouds just goes on and on about the pro's and con's of 'cloud chasing,' and I really have no interest, at all, in that.

Any advice is welcomed.




Idiot warning: I know I shouldn't really be using RBA's, yet, but I like them.


::Edit::
In case anyone's wondering, I've attached a photo of what I'm currently using.
SUBTANK Mini Styled Bell Cap Clearomizer (A mix of two tanks, because I destroyed parts during a panic attack)
iStick 30W Styled 2200mAh Variable Voltage / Wattage APV Box Mod

 

[Izan]

Hi and welcome,


Kanger NEBOX SSOCC and Clapton Coil
Nickel Ni200 Kanger Subtank OCC Vertical Coils
Replacement Vertical Kanger Subtank OCC Coil - V2
Replacement Kangertech Subtank Mini RBA Deck Plus V2

These are your options for the Subtank mini...

Happy solstice
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[Kytten]

The last link is what I'm already using, I just need to get new coils.

From what I've read (Or, rather, haven't read) It doesn't matter what resistance wire I get for them, so long as the mod can handle it?

 

[Izan]

Kanger Subtank RBA Pre-Built Coils
Kanger Subtank RBA Pre-Built Coils & Japanese Organic Cotton Pack

 

[Kytten]

I kind of want to try .2 - .3 ohm

 

[EverPresentNoob]

will your mod fire that low? Do you have an Ohm reader? if your building your own Coils you HAVE TO CHECK THEM ON A METER!! I cannot stress that enough. I have been building coils and mods for a while now, and for the most part I can build without it, but I still check every build before I fire it. Last night I built a simple 24g 6 wrap dual 3mm set of coils for my RDA. Something I have done countless times. when I checked it I found that it was a dead short. I missed the fact that the end of one of the legs was sticking out behind the post adn was bent sideways and touching the leg on teh other coil. had I put it in my Lipo mod and fired it bad things could have happened. Always check builds first.

That said, for a STM i found a single parallel 28g 7wrap 2.5mm coil worked the best for me. Also, at .2 your tank is gonna get hot. it will start to cook the juice in the tank that is around the coils cap. something to think about.

Ninja Edit: Just looked up your mod. It will only fire from .4-5 ohms, so you cannot build below .4....

 

[Kytten]

I believe it will, the listing says it's good for .2-5ohms.

I already have an ohm reader on the list -- I think the mod has built-in safety checks to prevent those bad things. I know at least the one I currently use does, and the one I'm looking at getting is just a higher wattage version. It won't even fire up if something is wrong with the coil/deck.


Hot, huh? When I vape I either vape just a little at a time (off and on, when I remember the thing even exists) or an entire (3.5ml) tank in a few hours. By cook; do you mean it goes bad / gets used up faster, it ruins the coil / cap faster, or it just gets hot to the touch?


BTW, What is an STM?

 

[Kytten]

Ninja Edit: Just looked up your mod. It will only fire from .4-5 ohms, so you cannot build below .4....

Sneaky, but not quite sneaky enough. I totally noticed.

The mod I currently use can't handle it, but the one I'm looking at should be able to.


Dunno if the link will go through on this post, if it doesn't there will be a follow-up.
$39.09 Authentic Eleaf iStick 50W 4400mAh VW VV APV Box Mod - 5.0W-50.0W / 2.0V-10.0V / US plug wall charger / black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[Kytten]

Follow-up link.
$39.09 Authentic Eleaf iStick 50W 4400mAh VW VV APV Box Mod - 5.0W-50.0W / 2.0V-10.0V / US plug wall charger / black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

::Edit::
Guess I still can't post links? Thought that would be removed after my fifth post.

Oh well, there's the name, at least.

:::Edit:::
Details:
iStick 50W is a super upgraded version based on iStick series batteries. Powerful vapor can be generated due to the expanded range of output voltage (2V-10V)/ wattage (5W-50W) with 4400mAh battery capacity. It retains strong spring connector and wear-resistant stainless steel thread. Moreover, the additional temperature alarm function makes it high-safety even in strong vaping. Great feeling when you hold it because of its size and the rounded edges, while side charging port is also a plus.

• Expanded Working Range and Larger Battery Capacity: iStick 50W has a greater progress in working range (variable voltage: 2V-10V; variable wattage: 5W-50W) and battery capacity (4400mAh)
• Temperature Alarm function: If the temperature of device is over 70'C, the output will shut off automatically and the screen will reflect "Temp Protection" for 5 seconds
• Spring Connector and Stainless Steel Thread: The spring connection base ensures its high adaptability. The connecting thread is made of stainless steel which makes it more hard-wearing
• Side Charging Port: The micro-USB charging port is on the side of battery which will bring you more convenience
• Inherit Advantages of iStick Series: OLED display, adjustable voltage/wattage and arrow button lock function
• It will take 5 hours to charge the battery via 1A wall adaptor
• 510 thread connection
• Rated resistance range: 0.2-5 Ohms

 

[EverPresentNoob]

STM= Sub Tank Mini... its easier than typing it all out...

 

[Kytten]

Ahhh, gotcha. It wasn't on the list.

 

[Chuck64]

I just received my istick 50 2 days ago and am very happy so far. I did an enormous amount of research on it first. Here is a thread about it.

Eleaf istick 50w Owners Group

You don't have to read ALL 100 pages like I did but you should familiarize yourself with some of the "issues" it has had. I believe that the problems it had, have for the most part been addressed. But as always buyer beware.

 

[EverPresentNoob]

Yea, Im kinda biased against Eleaf... But now a days there is a new mod out every damn week!! So Ill stick with making my PWM mods. they are simple and work pretty damn good.

 

[DingerCPA]

Welcome @Kytten!

O.k. I think I understand that you would like to throw bigger clouds, but you want to keep technical aspects "not so technical?" If so, keep going; if not, just accept my welcome

What I've been finding is that PG/VG ratios, wicking and airflow have been the biggest contributor *for me* to get "fun clouds"

I use a higher-VG liquid (70-80%VG, depending on my juice). I have the Velocity RDA (and the mini) because my fat fingers can't seem to work with smaller RBA decks. I just know to keep my coil resistance well within the range of the battery I'm using (I also have an iStick 50, and love it.) So, I like my coils between 0.7-1.5 ohms. I know that keeps me safe for my batteries (but still allows for "Klowd Amuzement")

So, the "right" coil is what works for you. The following is a result of a 30g parallel single coil that actually meters (I used a dedicated ohmmeter) to 1.44 ohms. My mod was set to about 20W. Cloud is about 5-6' long.

Because of the power of newer mods these days, super-low ohms on coils aren't really necessary. Before high-powered, regulated mods, low ohms were the only way to "push" a coil to get similar results. You should make sure your batteries (whether replaceable or internal like the iStick) can handle sufficient current, but if done correctly, you don't need to push the envelope all that far.

So, short answer is there is no one "right" answer. Do hook up with @Baditude's blogs on battery safety. At a minimum, anyone wanting to dabble in low ohms should read through that.

Good Luck!

 

[dcfluegel]

Hello, strangers. Nice to 'e'meet you.


I started vaping about six months ago. I started with pens and generic, pre-built coils.
Around two - two and a half months ago, I upgrade to a 30W box mod and subtank minis with RBAs. I haven't been able to vape for a few weeks, though, because my coils are trashed and I've been unable to find the information I need to get the right kinds of coils. (I have issues trying to read through thousand-word pages on 'cloud chasing.' I just need to know basics. )
With it being Christmas, and since my longing for a more substantial cloud seems insatiable, I've decided to treat myself to a new box mod (I'm thinking a 50W iStick from FastTech - I currently have the 30W and occasionally want to go a bit higher than 30) and a few RBAs that can take the lower resistance that larger clouds require...
That being said, I have no idea what I'm really looking for. Every article I find about larger clouds just goes on and on about the pro's and con's of 'cloud chasing,' and I really have no interest, at all, in that.

Any advice is welcomed.




Idiot warning: I know I shouldn't really be using RBA's, yet, but I like them.


::Edit::
In case anyone's wondering, I've attached a photo of what I'm currently using.
SUBTANK Mini Styled Bell Cap Clearomizer (A mix of two tanks, because I destroyed parts during a panic attack)
iStick 30W Styled 2200mAh Variable Voltage / Wattage APV Box Mod

howdy! and welcome!

given what you have posted, i would suggest looking at something that is dual battery box or equivalent, and capable of 75 watts or more (not necessarily for power's sake, but for battery life and versatility)

if you want built in batteries, check out the Smok Micro One Kit - all you need to add is juice - the tfv4 tank has TONS of coil options and overall, is one of my favorite tanks - and you would easily be able to use that mod with an RBA also

if you are okay with removable batteries, there are a number of very solid options, including the new kanger boxes coming out in a couple days (120w or 200w TC capable - keep in mind, just because a mod is capable of TC doesn't mean you have to use it - I have several TC boxes and still prefer a warmer, wattage vape - seems the primary theory behind TC is avoiding dry hits, i have found that if i keep juice in my tank, i don't get dry hits... just sayin...)... and if you go this route, i would recommend paired samsung 25r batteries and a nitecore d4 charger (very reasonable at illumn.com) - nice thing about removable batteries is that if the battery dies, you can replace it, not the whole mod...

in the realm of RBAs... wow... lots of stuff there... first, make sure you have a decent mod and batteries... then time to do a little research on building, though it is COMPLETELY reasonable to start with pre-built coils (you can get everything from plain contact coils to fused stapled staggered framed claptons pretty readily) and learn to install em before you have to learn to build em... my personal faves are the compvape attys and velocity clones - lots of room to build on, deep juice wells and adjustable airflow

you're in the right place

 

[Kytten]

Words Words Words

That's extremely helpful! Thank you!


From what I've read (skimmed through) on the links and posts on Bad's battery safety, as well as Mooch's test results, the iStick 50 has a pretty safe battery, yes? Being as there's so much information, it'll take me a few days to actually absorb most of what is in those guides, but for the most part, it looks like most of the safety issues revolve around temperature --- The listing says the i50 has a temp alarm to prevent it getting hotter than 70°C, so that's comforting.


And if I can get a cloud like that by getting a high VG juice, I won't even worry about going lower than .4-.5 ohms.

 

[Kytten]

Words Words Words

I'm not too picky about batteries -- The reason I'm looking at the i50 is because I love the i20 version.
The main factors behind my choices are style and price. I have issues with certain textures and colours, so some of the mods that I've actually really liked the sound of I know I would never be able to tolerate using -- And I've set myself a limit of about 90$ (shipping/tax included) for supplies needed, excluding juices as I already have a few to use up.

What is TC? I assume it has something to do with drip mods, from the context? Not at all interested in those. Too messy, too attention-needing. I like to mindlessly vape while shooting my friends in the face in videogames, I don't have time for silly refills.


RBA's are so attractive to me, for so many reasons. Mainly, because I get to fiddle with them. When I got my first couple of tanks, the coils included in one of them had a short that I figured out how to fix after just a couple of minutes. (No thanks to the terrible field of situationally useless info that is the internet)







Also, thank you, everyone, for such warm welcomes.

 

[dcfluegel]

I'm not too picky about batteries -- The reason I'm looking at the i50 is because I love the i20 version.
The main factors behind my choices are style and price. I have issues with certain textures and colours, so some of the mods that I've actually really liked the sound of I know I would never be able to tolerate using -- And I've set myself a limit of about 90$ (shipping/tax included) for supplies needed, excluding juices as I already have a few to use up.

What is TC? I assume it has something to do with drip mods, from the context? Not at all interested in those. Too messy, too attention-needing. I like to mindlessly vape while shooting my friends in the face in videogames, I don't have time for silly refills.


RBA's are so attractive to me, for so many reasons. Mainly, because I get to fiddle with them. When I got my first couple of tanks, the coils included in one of them had a short that I figured out how to fix after just a couple of minutes. (No thanks to the terrible field of situationally useless info that is the internet)







Also, thank you, everyone, for such warm welcomes.

lol - words i think my post got Leeroy Jenkinsed

i understand the style/ price vectors - just make sure you check reviews on safety, performance, and durability... in gamer terms, some Uncommons look good but they ain't Epic - and I definitely understand the price factor - I know there have been a lot of mixed reviews on the iSticks in particular

TC is Temperature Control - chip in the mod senses resistance change in wire caused by temp change and can adjust to that to avoid burning wick if it gets dry/ runs outta juice (coil getting too hot! shut 'er down)... and I have used drip atty's on raids - just have to have one with a good deep drip well and time your reloads AND you get to fiddle with them

from a vernacular standpoint - RBA = rebuildable atomizer which includes both RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer) and RDA (rebuildable dripping or deck atomizer)... if you are particularly interested in rebuildable tank atomizers, keep an eye on the OBS Crius v3 (velocity style deck) or the (WOOT!) Steam Crave Aromamizer (<-- EPIC)

 

[Kytten]

check out the Smok Micro One Kit

My only issues are with the tank. I like to mix juices as well as switch between different tanks, so I need 2-3, at least... And I can't use metal tanks. For some reason, the flavour and smell of the metal make me feel nauseous.

 

[djsvapour]

I kind of want to try .2 - .3 ohm

You can try that.... but I thought you said you weren't interested in clouds.

I would coil an RBA 'deck/head/atomizer' (subtank mini etc.) to anything between 0.6 and 1.0 ohm. That's close enough for jazz.

(uh, I don't like Jazz...)