If We Vape Enough...

[J.Emp]

I was having my breakfast and suddenly this thoughts came to my mind. It's not based on actual statistics and any substantial evidences.

Everything in the modern world boils down to profiteering. Who really cares about public health, if public health is really a concern, cigarettes will be banned long ago due to 2nd hand smoke. IMO it affects the public health more than the consumption of any drugs in any form.

Maybe,
The reason behind how the entire vaping thing is heading, how different governments/agencies are trying to clamp down on vaping, is simply because we are not vaping enough, as a whole.

If we vape enough..
Enough to cause an impact in the cotton manufacturing industry, maybe those companies will voice out with us.
Enough to cause an impact in the electronics industry, maybe those companies will voice out with us.
Enough to cause an impact in the wire/steel whatever industry, maybe those companies will voice out with us.
Enough to create more jobs through the different industries rather than just the cigarette manufacturing factory.
Enough to cause the big tobacco industries to see a bigger profit, maybe they'll buy over a few of the bigger vape related companies and we might have regulated standardize products.

Based on the fact that with the sale of a single cigarette pack, the one who reaps the most would be the one taxing the product.

If we vape enough... The Taxes recovered with all the products involved might be about to compensate for the lost in Taxes for traditional cigarettes. (that's excluding the medical bills incurred by smokers and of cause fines/summons for littering)

If we vape enough, there should be more than enough reasons to proof that vaping is simply a better choice for any individuals/governments/agencies AS COMPARED to traditional cigarettes. It's definitely not harmless, but definitely much less harmful.

Well, that's alot of Ifs and Maybes.. But, what if...

These are just some 10 cents from a poorly educated vaper, my 2 cents is free.

 

[chia]

Yes that's half the equation solved actually. In Europe and US, the progression of vaping is really going up and up.. A massive growing market. So enough is not an issue. But the problem I see is that the big tobacco, try as they might, are being shut out of the market, probably due to better informed vapers who can do some research on actual facts on their own.
So now that they( big tobacco ) fail to gain market share, they wanna shut down the whole industry. They have to muscles and power to influence legislators and even to some extend governments, and we are seeing the effects now, the FDA 'recommendations ' and such.

The 'cassa' movements and all those talks and petitions? Imo they're all not gonna work. Best is to delay actions only.
Best way I think, ironically is to get the big tobacco into the industry(if they can), and let them fight for us.

 

[Nermal]

Enough to cause an impact in the cotton manufacturing industry, maybe those companies will voice out with us.

Yeah, but you're going to have to do a LOT of vaping to budge the cotton market.

I'm from the U.S. Hope you guys don't mind if I drop in from time to time. I think of your situation often

 

[Steamix]

Well, the cotton a single vaper is consuming in a lifetime's worth or re-wicking is maybe enough to make for a pair of socks and a g-string thrown in for good measure. Maybe a t-shirt of you go really overboard with your wicking.
So the impact on the cotton industry is miniscule. Even when you account for the high prices we're paying in comparison to the bulk purchases done by the garment industry.

Same goes for all the other components.

Vaping is a new technology only in that respect that it combines technologies already in existence.
Liquids got heated ever since the kettle was put over an open fire some few thousand years back...
The one technology that really boosted vaping was - and still is - portable power sources.
Could have vaped thirty years ago - if I'd be willing to backpack a truck battery wherever I go

Vaping industry itself needs to grow fast enough to become an economical force on its very own.

2016 global vape market estimated somewhere between 3.5 and 5 billion US$.

Sounds like a lot.

Until you look at the quarterly report of the BT outfits ...

We've got a ways to go yet.

 

[Imperialchugger]

i cant imagine how would they tax a bottle of juice. say we pay roughly 2-3 times more for a pack of cigs, we are looking at 75usd for a pancake man kit. lol.

 

[chia]

There're ways around.. As long as it's legal..

 

[sofarsogood]

I was having my breakfast and suddenly this thoughts came to my mind. It's not based on actual statistics and any substantial evidences.

Everything in the modern world boils down to profiteering. Who really cares about public health, if public health is really a concern, cigarettes will be banned long ago due to 2nd hand smoke. IMO it affects the public health more than the consumption of any drugs in any form.

Maybe,
The reason behind how the entire vaping thing is heading, how different governments/agencies are trying to clamp down on vaping, is simply because we are not vaping enough, as a whole.

If we vape enough..
Enough to cause an impact in the cotton manufacturing industry, maybe those companies will voice out with us.
Enough to cause an impact in the electronics industry, maybe those companies will voice out with us.
Enough to cause an impact in the wire/steel whatever industry, maybe those companies will voice out with us.
Enough to create more jobs through the different industries rather than just the cigarette manufacturing factory.
Enough to cause the big tobacco industries to see a bigger profit, maybe they'll buy over a few of the bigger vape related companies and we might have regulated standardize products.

Based on the fact that with the sale of a single cigarette pack, the one who reaps the most would be the one taxing the product.

If we vape enough... The Taxes recovered with all the products involved might be about to compensate for the lost in Taxes for traditional cigarettes. (that's excluding the medical bills incurred by smokers and of cause fines/summons for littering)

If we vape enough, there should be more than enough reasons to proof that vaping is simply a better choice for any individuals/governments/agencies AS COMPARED to traditional cigarettes. It's definitely not harmless, but definitely much less harmful.

Well, that's alot of Ifs and Maybes.. But, what if...

These are just some 10 cents from a poorly educated vaper, my 2 cents is free.

The tobacco market world wide has upwards of $1 trillion in revenues from 1 billion smokers. Most of that goes for taxes. Those taxes support millions of people who do not want their benefits reduced. I used to be a patriotic American smoker. I paid $3,000 a year to smoke a carton a week. Then I did a terrible thing. I switched to vaping. I rebuild and mix at home. Except for stockpiling and buying toys I don't need my cost to vape is under $100 per year. If all the smokers switched to vaping and only bought what they needed the $1 trillion would shrink 90% to $100 billion and only trivial amounts would be going for taxes. Then even this number would decline because very few never smokers will become life long vapers. This would would be a huge benefit to the human race and the global economy but a staggering calamity for the beneficiaries of the status quo. We are in a war and we are outnumbered.

Some of WInston Churchill's famous rhetoric might be appropriate.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

Big tobacco is already moving into e-cigarettes.

 

[chia]

Not popular haha