I'm going to have to ask. What is a mod and why do I need it?

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Silent Scream

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I use an EVOD which I love. I open it up and put the liquid in and vape away like a mad thing.

Why do I need mods? Why would I complicate the situation? I'm not talking about DIY I'm just saying why should I throw this thing away and start again with something I have to rebuild and recoil and re-everything and research all the 'bits' to do what I'm doing already I suppose I'm asking what is the .......ing point of all that?
 

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If you love the set up you're using, there is no reason to change or buy anything else. Some people stick with the eGo type batteries and that's just fine. Some people want more so they buy bigger and/or more complicated devices. Some people just like to collect devices. There's various reasons but "needing" is subjective.
 

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If you love the set up you're using, there is no reason to change or buy anything else. Some people stick with the eGo type batteries and that's just fine. Some people want more so they buy bigger and/or more complicated devices. Some people just like to collect devices. There's various reasons but "needing" is subjective.

I can understand how it becomes a hobby and that's great. I'm totally confused as to why they call these things mods when they're not a modification of what you already have but a completely new approach to the same thing that seems to involve ditching what you have and buying a completely new set up. 'mod' doesn't fit with any of this in my lingo.
 

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the word MOD is a misnomer, to be honest,,,,,,,,

you "need" a mod only when and if you get tired of tossing batteries after they stop holding a charge,,,,,,and if and when you want a much larger battery life (although there are internal battery devices that have a really long battery life, like the MVP2.)

Until then,,,,,,,,,,enjoy what you have.
 

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the word MOD is a misnomer, to be honest,,,,,,,,

you "need" a mod only when and if you get tired of tossing batteries after they stop holding a charge,,,,,,and if and when you want a much larger battery life (although there are internal battery devices that have a really long battery life, like the MVP2.)

Until then,,,,,,,,,,enjoy what you have.

So replacement/upgrade and/or addition might fit better?
 

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I think they're called mods, because the first bigger builds were possibly modified from other devices (correct me if I'm wrong, since this is more a guess than anything else).

I think originally, people modded flashlights,,,,,

now they just build tube mods that don't need any modding, but the name just stuck.
 

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Battery life on a mod is not always better. Especially if your going sub-ohm. I bought my first mech and RDA just to explore that realm. I'd already been rebuilding my EVOD/protank coils - which, if you haven't tried already, then you really should. Those stock coils are nowhere NEAR as good as ones you can make yourself. Anyway, once I got the hang of the RDA, I was BLOWN AWAY. It really is night and day performance wise - and I usually only do about a 1.1-.9ohm coil, not crazy sub ohm stuff. Also, cotton is a far better wick than silica, IMO. In short, you "need" a mod if you want to: a) improve vapor and flavor, and/or b) are interested in the hobby aspect of it, and/or c) want something that you can change the battery in. With a mech, if you drop it in the toilet, you just chuck the battery and keep going. Personally, I went mod for all of those reasons.
 

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I can understand how it becomes a hobby and that's great. I'm totally confused as to why they call these things mods when they're not a modification of what you already have but a completely new approach to the same thing that seems to involve ditching what you have and buying a completely new set up. 'mod' doesn't fit with any of this in my lingo.

The more correct term would be APV (advanced personal vaporizer). Until about 3 years ago if you wanted a non-cigalike you got or made an actual mod, since then factory APVs have become the norm and the line blurred a little more with ego type batteries.

The main advantage with an APV is a replaceable battery, you don't have to throw the whole thing, just replace the approx. $6 to $10 battery, and better build quality (usually).
 

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That's my thinking at the moment, thanks. I see why people might want more battery life etc but I don't understand the obsession with the rest of it.
all i can say is if you havent tried it you wont understand, if what you use works for you that is fine, it worked for me for a long time, until i saw how much better it really is with all the rewicking and rebuilding and better made devices i dont throw away in 3 months.

I couldnt understand how anyone would want to play with ss mesh and wrap coils and mix their own juice, until i did it, suddenly I honestly thought my clearo tank didnt work anymore and spent all night trying to fix it, until i realized its not the clearo thats broke, its the rba working that much better.

now I have an APV with a battery rated for well over a year instead of tossing the whole thing in the trash when it dies like an ego and it costs me pennies a month to build coils/wicks and my juice is about 18 bucks a pint.
 
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all i can say is if you havent tried it you wont understand, if what you use works for you that is fine, it worked for me for a long time, until i saw how much better it really is with all the rewicking and rebuilding and better made devices i dont throw away in 3 months.

I couldnt understand how anyone would want to play with ss mesh and wrap coils and mix their own juice, until i did it, suddenly I honestly thought my clearo tank didnt work anymore and spent all night trying to fix it, until i realized its not the clearo thats broke, its the rba working that much better.

now I have an APV with a battery rated for well over a year instead of tossing the whole thing in the trash when it dies like an ego and it costs me pennies a month to build coils/wicks and my juice is about 18 bucks a pint.

Thanks for the answers everyone I appreciate it but I want to reply to Thrasher and say I really don't want to get into the nitty gritty of the mechanics of these devices because I would be TERRIBLE at it. I would however like some company to say hey that EVOD you have here is another one which is a hundred times better it just cost more. I would save up and buy it.

I hope I haven't offended any hobbyists with this thread I'm just trying to understand it all.
 

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for the most part i agree with the OP, my ego v v2 mega is great... now i do see where there are added features are extremely appealing. there is a part of me that has a great interest in the 134, it is a guys vaporizer, it resembles a lightsaber/gattling gun barrel/terminator arm (all various opinions) it just looks cool... it also simplifies something that had me at a loss before i did more research (what all comes from various volts and various ohms, the answer being total wattage, it allows you to dial what wattage you want and boom)

i am going to order my diy supplies next week, and i love my mini pt2/evod but i am going to be looking into getting a dripping atty setup. i dont need to drip, but it will be a great tool to test my mixes in smaller batches before i make a larger batch. and will allow me to test my liquids without committing to using that juice... i will definitely have my mini pt2 loaded and set to the side when i drip my mix (gotta be sure that if it is straight nasty i can rinse and vape something good)

my wife recently picked up vaping and we are working on catching up to how to properly clean and maintain our coils in our kanger tanks so that we can get the most use out of them, however it is definitely going to be greatly beneficial for me to rebuild coils instead of purchasing new ones... my wife tends to like darker juices and while we can still maintain they will go faster, eventually even with perfect maintenance things just need replacing. now i am going to need an ohm meter to measure the resistance when i rebuild coils... instead of spending 20-30 dollars on an ohm meter, why not spend a little more and get a mod that reads the ohms of the coil, a variable wattage device...

everything has its purposes... i would love to get a few cool toys and gadgets, but there are somethings i may not need, but will make life easier, and making life simpler and easier sounds priceless to me...

hope i shared some insight on this topic
 

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You want a mod because everybody else has one - or so it seems. Get one. Whatever you choose, I'm sure your EVOD will either fit or adapt.

I got started! on a mod (i.e. Vamo 2) and then later purchased a couple of Evods, because I like their smaller form factor, I also like the Vamo because of battery life (but it does become heavy after a few hours of use)
 

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I got a RDA (IGO-L) and I still haven't made a coil. I just got some premade coils for cheap and they actually work really good. I got it mainly for trying out new flavors before they go in a tank and to see if juices are steeped enough. I mainly use my Smok Tech Pyrex AROs though. (similar to an Evod) I have a couple Vamo v5s, but I still use my VV eGos too. I'm glad I have the Vamos though great for checking ohms to get the VV eGos set up right for my taste and maximize coil life. The main 2 things I love about the Vamos is 2900mah 18650 batteries and while the batteries are charging you just put more batteries in them so no downtime like with the eGos. I like the wattage setting too makes it real simple.

Maybe a good name for mods would be VVBH (Variable Voltage Battery Holder)
 
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