I'm really confused on DNA 30

[VAscooter]

OK, so I have a couple of Provari and a Sigelei 20W and my coils on my Kayfuns are all between 1.5 and 1.8 single micro coil builds with organix cotton. According to the charts I should be running between 3.5v - 4v or 6-8w, which is what I do. If I go any higher, I start getting that burnt taste. Use a 50/50 or 65/35 eliquid.

I'm reading through some of the posts on people that are using a DNA 20 or 30 and are cranking those things up to 30 watts with the same ohm coils I'm using. Is it possible or smart to do that? I'm not into cloud chasing but do like a little warmer vapor from time to time but not interested in doing something that cause a major problem. I'm hoping someone with more knowledge than me can help educate me.

 

[AlB53]

I run my Russian 91 at 15-18 watts, 6ish volts but my coil is 1/8 drill bit. smaller coils, less cotton just can't keep up with the wciking IMO. try a bigger coil, can hurt..
thats a 2 hom coil..

 

[Nomoreash]

It's coil, wick and airflow. If you can get more of any or all of those which can be done easily on most RBAs you can turn the wattage/volts up without dry hits or it burning.

I usually do my Kayfuns between 1.2 -1.5 ohms with a micro coil wrapped on a 5/64 bit and a cotton wick and usually vape in the 12 - 14 watt rage, I could push it a bit higher without any ill effect and do sometimes but the majority of time I'm in that range.

I've never been or felt the need to go anywhere near 30 watts except when I was trying some vaping donunts, those things take some power.

 

[Nomoreash]

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[VAscooter]

Yep, I understand. How are some doing that coil though at 30 watts. Not that I want to even attempt but just trying to understand. Even 20 seems high.

 

[cole_bie]

Where did you read that people are going 30 watts on a Kayfun? Are you sure they weren't using an RDA or something? I can't even imagine being able to go that high on a Kayfun and still have it wick fast enough.

 

[edyle]

OK, so I have a couple of Provari and a Sigelei 20W and my coils on my Kayfuns are all between 1.5 and 1.8 single micro coil builds with organix cotton. According to the charts I should be running between 3.5v - 4v or 6-8w, which is what I do. If I go any higher, I start getting that burnt taste. Use a 50/50 or 65/35 eliquid.

I'm reading through some of the posts on people that are using a DNA 20 or 30 and are cranking those things up to 30 watts with the same ohm coils I'm using. Is it possible or smart to do that? I'm not into cloud chasing but do like a little warmer vapor from time to time but not interested in doing something that cause a major problem. I'm hoping someone with more knowledge than me can help educate me.

For starters, somebody using quad coils of the same ohms as you can run 4 times the power roughly.

Drippers also can run higher power because with a dripper you don't have to wait for the coil to wick.

 

[VAscooter]

Got it now. Thanks. I would have to go back to the dna 30 thread to find the users that were using the 1.5 ohm coil.

 

[Cloud Junky]

I use my DNA 30 on a dripper and never get a burnt taste. I have a .8ohm dual micro coil in a Atomic atty @ 25.1 watts which equates to 4.7v. I have a .19 quad coil in my IGO-M with the 26650 Copper Stingray, technically it would be at 92.9 watts on a 4.2v battery; no burns there either. I notice in my Russian that I cannot vape above 12 watts without burning so I keep it on my SVD around 9 watts.

 

[Funk Dracula]

A single coil at high wattage needs airflow and a wet wick. Tanks generally can't keep up with the wicking, or airflow. Especially a Kayfun. To get it to wick enough you'd have to tighten the draw all the way so it sucks more juice up, and then the restricted airflow will make that high wattage vape so hot... definitely an acquired taste. Both inadequacies lead to a burnt taste or scorching throat hit.

Single coil high wattage vaping is best left for RDA's where you manually keep the coil saturated with dripping or bottom feeding. The side airflow placed straight in front of the coil. The flavor and vape from this can be quite the eye-opener. There's nothing burnt about it in the slightest. IMO, everything vapes and tastes anemic in comparison.

Other high wattage set-ups can be a bit deceiving because they are dual or quad coil setups requiring high wattage for the entire circuit.

A .5Ω dual coil is just a measurement of the entire circuit. Your actually vaping two 1Ω coils. So if your vaping that dual coil measuring .5Ω at 24W, it's actually 12W per 1Ω coil. That's an incredibly huge difference between vaping a single .5Ω coil at 24W.

Make sense?

A lot of people claiming that 30W is overkill, or is crazy burnt and scorching most likely haven't experienced where it shines, or in the case of duals and quads where it's clearly needed.

 

[Drizzledog]

I run a .6 ohm micro coil on my kayfun&mech. I've removed the AFC serew on the kfl+ for max airflow. That means I'm vaping around 20-25 watts as the battery goes from charged to discharged. I realize it's not a vw device, but vaping at that power isn't unheard of.....actually it's quite nice.
I also don't get burnt hits either. Maybe try this, after you've built your coil and wick; install the lower chimney, juice up the wick, then clear the wick away from the juice channels so they're not blocked by the wick. Hope this helps, good luck.