I'm sure this has been asked and explained before, but can someone help explain this to me?

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What's the difference between the CE2's 3's and 4's? I have an eGo C and it came with 5 clearomizers and I bought a few more today. The label on them say "Vision Clearomizer 2.1 ohm" The ones that came in the starter kit have short wicks, and the ones I bought today have long wicks. I just bought a 1000mah twist battery and I'm just trying to get as informed about all of this as possible. I also bought a higher nic level of juice for the mornings and this former 2 pad guy has only smoked half a pack in 5 days and I couldn't be happier. I'm trying to follow the "Don't understock or underspend" rule so I won't be in a situation where everything fails at once, but I'm still feeling like I don't have enough info to make informed decisions. Any help is greatly appreciated, and Thanks in advance!
 

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The difference between the CE's is how they wick and where the coil sits. for example the CE4+ has 4 long wicks feeding a top coil, the CE3 is short wicked and a bottom coil. the CE2 is a top coil 1 long wick (some might say two because the wick protrudes out both sides but it is one piece) that uses a plugged bung assembly to seal the top similar to the CE3 but the CE3 did away with the fill plug and just has a needle port. With a CE4 the drip tip makes the tank seal on top of the coil tube assembly that is very secure and is easy to fill. A CE2 and a CE3 are a bit more complicated requring a needle and will leak everywhere if not done right.
 

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A tank carto is pretty low maintenance, just toss the carto and slip a new one in the tank when it gets funky. A clearomizer can be cleaned easier than a cartomizer and in general last longer than a cartomizer. It is mostly a matter of personal tastes/preferences. Personally I find the clearomizers to have a cleaner flavor than a cartomizer because you can taste that stuffing, most don't realize it until they have tried a clearomizer. The new CE3's out now are inexpensive and work well. The CE4+ cost more but they hold more juice and I think they produce a better flavor but that's just me.

There are rebuildable clearo's coming out that should be a long term solution but they need a bit of refinement yet
 

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Thanks for the links, I think I have a better idea now of what exactly I am working with. My eGo C kit has seemed to be pretty unique as it didn't come with any of the ego-c type atomizers that I understand is what makes the c different than the t? My starter kit appears to have came with the CE4's with the short wicks, and the ones I bought today have the 4 strand wick that goes all the way down to the bottom of the tank. I haven't tried one of those yet. The site you linked to has a better price as well (before shipping), do you recommend them?
 

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the letter designation on the eGo batteries refers to the type of kit it was originally intended to be sold with Tank/Cartridge. The C also has a 5 click shutoff, I am unsure if the T does or not. Otherwise as far as looks and threading they are pretty much identical.

Yes I do recommend them, don't order 10, get 2, give it a week or two see if you like them, then order 10 if you do.
 
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The difference between the CE's is how they wick and where the coil sits. for example the CE4+ has 4 long wicks feeding a top coil, the CE3 is short wicked and a bottom coil. the CE2 is a top coil 1 long wick (some might say two because the wick protrudes out both sides but it is one piece) that uses a plugged bung assembly to seal the top similar to the CE3 but the CE3 did away with the fill plug and just has a needle port. With a CE4 the drip tip makes the tank seal on top of the coil tube assembly that is very secure and is easy to fill. A CE2 and a CE3 are a bit more complicated requring a needle and will leak everywhere if not done right.

That was a great explanation.
 

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Discount vapers is an excellent site. The long wicked CE4's you have are the CE4+. If you have any juice that's acidic, like cola or citrus flavors or cinnamon, use them. They dont crack as easy.
The CE4's and CE4+ need some break in time. They'll improve after a fill or two.
Consider yourself lucky that you didn't get the ego-c atomizers or tanks. Most people end up taking that junk off anyway and going with a decent clearomizer instead.

If you want a clearomizer that won't leak, produces great vapor "out of the box" and costs a lot less than the CE4's, I would suggest the Fluxomizers from Gotvapes.com. The XL holds about 1.3ml, a little less than a CE4, but they're only about $10 for a box of 5 and they last forever. I used all kinds of clearomizers, CE3s, CE2s, G4s, you name it. I had just about given up on them when I tried the Fluxomizer. They're the only ones I will use now.
 

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Thanks for the help.
I feel a sort of urgency to figure this out as much as possible before I give up in frustration. I don't feel like I'm getting the hit that I should be. I know it will taste burnt if the wick dries, but how do you know how high to up the voltage on a VV battery like the Twist? Keep going up til it tastes burnt when the wick isn't dry? Try to shoot for maximum vapor?
 

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Hi Stew, The "t" and "c" refers to the atomizer that goes on top of the batteries. The "t" was not really designed to be taken apart, while the"c" was. The t&c batteries both have the 5 click safety and other than the logo should be identical to one another.

Great explanation JZXJ.

Good Luck. Happy Vaping.
 

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Thanks for the help.
I feel a sort of urgency to figure this out as much as possible before I give up in frustration. I don't feel like I'm getting the hit that I should be. I know it will taste burnt if the wick dries, but how do you know how high to up the voltage on a VV battery like the Twist? Keep going up til it tastes burnt when the wick isn't dry? Try to shoot for maximum vapor?

You could always pick up a box of cartomizers to try as well. A box of LR cartomizers are fairly inexpensive. See which you prefer. If you like the cartomizers, you can always purchase the tank. That's the great think about your pv, tons of options. The downside of a cartomizer is that once you fill it with e-liquid, you're pretty committed to that flavor. They are also disposable but can be refilled many times.
 

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Hi Stew, The "t" and "c" refers to the atomizer that goes on top of the batteries. The "t" was not really designed to be taken apart, while the"c" was. The t&c batteries both have the 5 click safety and other than the logo should be identical to one another.

Thanks for that, I wasn't sure. I'm assuming my "Starter kit" was the ego-c batts with different clearomizers and not the type c atty's.
Blessing in disguise in my eyes.
 

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Stew, You basically got the idea. Go to where it feels right. With a 2.1 ohm ce4+ you should be getting plumes of vapor at most anything above 4v.
Okay, so don't be afraid to bump it up a notch. got it. Thanks again guys.
As I'm sure you know it can be pretty daunting moving to a new tech that's not supported as widely as good ol' big tobacco, on top of giving up my last vice.
 

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Thanks for the help.
I feel a sort of urgency to figure this out as much as possible before I give up in frustration. I don't feel like I'm getting the hit that I should be. I know it will taste burnt if the wick dries, but how do you know how high to up the voltage on a VV battery like the Twist? Keep going up til it tastes burnt when the wick isn't dry? Try to shoot for maximum vapor?

Here's an easy method to know what voltage to start at without guessing. You might need a calculator if you're mathematically challenged, but you can rough estimate it if you want and you won't be far off.

Most people like to vape at 6-10 watts. So use 7 watts as a starting point.
Just multiply 7 by your resistance and use the square root of the product to get an idea of where to start at without wild guessing. Round down if you're into fractions. Adjust up from there until it tastes bad.

If you have a 2ohm carto, 2x7=14. What's the square root of 14? It ain't 3, because 3 x 3 =9. It's not 4 cuz 4x4=16, So call it 3.5 ....Start at 3.5 volts. It's actually 3.74volts, so you're close enough.
 

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Do you guys have any idea why one of the ce4's might leak into the battery? It stopped producing vapor and when I pulled it off the battery it had flooded the top of the batt. No leaking along the sides or anything like that. It was working, then nothing. Is that how I know it's ready to toss or is it something I may have done wrong?
 
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