I'm thinkin' maybe we should try this again? . . . . and you kids should behave yourselves

[ValHeli]

more air = more clouds

 

[Vwls]

Know what you mean about the 90watt days...lol, that's why I have a Duke.

That being said people don't use variable wattage devices correctly. If you have a 50watt box mod, you should build an atty with something like a total of 2-3ohms. When you rock that build at say 35watts you will get a very comparable experience to a subohm build at very high wattage. The beauty of the high wattage boxes is that you can build higher coils which means you don't draw the wattage you would with a subohm and get great results.

Oh I totally agree. I have a much higher build on my 50 watt box (actually 1.7 ohms at 48 watts is perfect). The thing its - that box is ugly. Ugly, ugly, ugly. So I'm looking for mechanical alternatives.. for the aesthetics as well as the opportunity to go much higher.

 

[ValHeli]

Know what you mean about the 90watt days...lol, that's why I have a Duke.

That being said people don't use variable wattage devices correctly. If you have a 50watt box mod, you should build an atty with something like a total of 2-3ohms. When you rock that build at say 35watts you will get a very comparable experience to a subohm build at very high wattage. The beauty of the high wattage boxes is that you can build higher coils which means you don't draw the wattage you would with a subohm and get great results.

Yup, totally agree! I'm perfectly satisfied now with a 1.1Ω build at only 14 watts than when I was doing .6Ω at 22 watts.

 

[pdib]

gosh, Vwls, I sure would like to send you this PM .. . . . . . but yer full.

 

[Xobeloot]

Val! Clean out your inbox!

 

[Alexander Mundy]

That chart shows p=v^2/R

T

How right you are. Fixed my typo on my hasty post.

 

[pdib]

Val! Clean out your inbox!

Monkey! Stop telling Val to clean behind his inbox!

doctors . . . . I swear!

 

[Vwls]

gosh, Vwls, I sure would like to send you this PM .. . . . . . but yer full.

I know sweetie.

ECF is to blame. I can't send or receive PM's. They made an error and charged me for my supporting membership twice- then when I called it to their attention, they made an even worse error, refunded BOTH charges and cancelled my membership. I've written and asked for help multiple times and no one fixes it. So bottom line - I'm incapacitated because the inbox capacity between supporting and regular membership is like - ridiculous.

I'm madly deleting PMs but I don't want to lose valuable exchanges of information or awesome historical PMs (like yours!) But it's making me crazy. I can't make a purchase or a sale, I can't follow up on pending sales, I can't communicate with my peeps... etc.

I would start breaking things except I have another solution: it's called drink a good oatmeal stout, take a vape, and calm the hell down. Works well actually

Email me please.

 

[Kentastic]

The thing that is nice about parallel boxes (besides being safer) is that you can run them on a single 650 in an emergency. (emergency being a relative term in this instance.) Note: unless you are running some crazy-low build that's too many amps for one battery.

 

[pdib]

The thing that is nice about parallel boxes (besides being safer) is that you can run them on a single 650 in an emergency. (emergency being a relative term in this instance.) Note: unless you are running some crazy-low build that's too many amps for one battery.

which is the value of dual parallel batteries. you can draw higher amperage. (not double; but say 75% of double amperage). So, more power in the sense that you can build a little lower res. and/or not tickle the amp limit with certain builds. It does require some more caution for battery rotation, and checking for even health of batteries etc.

 

[supertrunker]

The Amp limit of a 30A battery remains the same. You cannot harness them together and run coils at half the resistance you did prior to doing so, because if one fails you are automatically overloading the other massively.

In a few ways it reminds me of the difference between building to the C rating of your battery rather than the pulse rating. If i'm misunderstanding some of this then i'll be pleased to understand why.

T

 

[B2L]

Thank you bro! It's also because you have such a good eye for wood that mine turned out great!

Did that sound wrong?

I've got some exquisite wood thanks to VH myself, if that's wrong I don't wanna be right

 

[pdib]

The Amp limit of a 30A battery remains the same. You cannot harness them together and run coils at half the resistance you did prior to doing so, because if one fails you are automatically overloading the other massively.

In a few ways it reminds me of the difference between building to the C rating of your battery rather than the pulse rating. If i'm misunderstanding some of this then i'll be pleased to understand why.

T

you are correct. if one battery somehow ceases to deliver, you would then be asking for more current from the other. I think, we generally rely on healthy, good quality, high drain batteries to not simply go thermal in all of our mech vaping however, no? What would this one battery do, that it wouldn't do otherwise (in a single battery application)? Just up and go berserk?

 

[Rossum]

Ok, the sun came out for Dennis.

Why does that look so familiar?

 

[pdib]

Dan's Stabilized Curly Bubinga:

 

[Dan Knight]

Dan's Stabilized Curly Bubinga:

I'm so very happy. Thank you, Peter.

 

[Bigflyrodder]

The Amp limit of a 30A battery remains the same. You cannot harness them together and run coils at half the resistance you did prior to doing so, because if one fails you are automatically overloading the other massively.

In a few ways it reminds me of the difference between building to the C rating of your battery rather than the pulse rating. If i'm misunderstanding some of this then i'll be pleased to understand why.

T

I must be missing something here, my reasoning must be off but this is the example I am going off of:

If you are running stacked batteries at their max 8.4volts on a .28 build you would be drawing 30amps (an astounding 242watts though). If a battery fails that same .28build would be drawing on a single battery at 4.2volts max which would drop the amp pull to 15.

Wouldn't the power just instantly be cut but still be in the safe range with that example?

 

[supertrunker]

you are correct. if one battery somehow ceases to deliver, you would then be asking for more current from the other. I think, we generally rely on healthy, good quality, high drain batteries to not simply go thermal in all of our mech vaping however, no? What would this one battery do, that it wouldn't do otherwise (in a single battery application)? Just up and go berserk?

In a single battery application, the coil would be higher Ω, no? My question was specifically aimed at the consequences of battery failure, not 'what we rely on'

T

 

[Dan Knight]

I must be missing something here, my reasoning must be off but this is the example I am going off of:

If you are running stacked batteries at their max 8.4volts on a .28 build you would be drawing 30amps (an astounding 242watts though). If a battery fails that same .28build would be drawing on a single battery at 4.2volts max which would drop the amp pull to 15.

Wouldn't the power just instantly be cut but still be in the safe range with that example?

In series (stacked) if one of the batteries failed the entire circuit would fail and you would draw 0 amps. In parallel you would draw 15 amps regardless of how many batteries you are using.

 

[Vapeaholic]

Dan's Stabilized Curly Bubinga:

Beautiful! And bubinga is some dense solid wood. Should be durable.