IMHO...The S.B. needs a slight tweak

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While I am not necessarily advocating a drip/juice well ( I am quite happy with my Omega as it is ), I do think that, even though as a proportion of all PV users, drippers probably are a small minority, of those purchasing an SB, Omega, or other high end device, they are likely a majority. I have no real data to back this up, though, so this is just speculation.

I've toyed with the same speculation. While the exact proportion can't be known--nobody's counting heads--the ratio of drippers to non-drippers must increase with vaping experience.
 

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I used to drip exclusively, got to be lazy and hated dripping every 5 drags. I switched to 510 cartos with drip tip and I have never looked back. I have never siad directly that a well of some sort is out of the question. As with all requests I take them into consideration.

Ah! still a smidgen of hope.:) I have never tried a carto with a drip tip. Do you use the foam or poly fill inside? I'm going to try this. I received the hot spring and 2 drip tips today. The hot spring does make a difference. I love the drip tips (non-metallic) I'm done with the metal drip tips, I guess I have too many fillings in my teeth...I taste the metal.

I'm still using the trustfire tr18650 2400 mAh 3.7. Is this still the preferred battery or has something else hit the market in the last 6 months? Are there any high drains that will fit the s.b.?(I'm only speaking of 3.7 with l.r.a.)

Wait...do you mean a cartomizer and a drip tip?
 
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Hey Sew, if you are not cleaning your atty and cart (and juice well)every day via alcohol bath or what have you, then the bacteria will start happening. Dripping has nothing to do with it.

I clean out the connection for the atomizer with a q-tip or paper towel throughout the day. I need alcohol? :facepalm: On my way to the store so will pick it up. Thanks, Rocky.

Would you worry about dust or other debris getting into a well?
 

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Yes I meant a carto with a drip tip. The drip tip is only for feel, love the shape. There are several vendors that sell the high drain batteries. The high drain cells come in 18650 size, actually it is the most common :) The high drains do not have a protection circuit, they are a safe chemistry that does not require it. If a short were to develope in the unit it would flaten the spring. Most of the high drain cells(18650) are capable of outputting 16Amps.
 

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I can assure you that %75 of vapers are NOT drippers.
If you have juice running down your hand, you did something wrong. Some atties will leak like hell, replace them.
Wow - that kind of rubbed me the wrong way, I have to say. Thank you for posting a follow-up saying it's not totally out of the question in the future.
Vapers VS. Mod lovers I think is the question. The ones who only buy basic 510s or Rivas are probably not going to drip. Although I do drip with the Ego I stealth vape with at work... :) Cartos irritate my lip, and I hate carts and the constant fighting with them. Using a drip tip on top of a carto makes it too long.
Out of the people I've had contact with, or read posts from, roughly half of them drip, and the others use a feeding system or cartos. So there is a large market you're not considering.

I've tried just about every mod under $150, and I have to say - I sold my SB and my GLV solely because I got tired of dealing with leakage on my fingers. I've bought expensive, cheap, LR, HR, all the different type connections - and they all leak sometimes. I never put more than 2-3 drops in.

Please don't dismiss a customer request because you don't need it. Most of the popular mods have juice wells, so perhaps you could make one model that has one and see how it sells? I'd love to see you make a model with one. I really liked my SB.
It could be a best seller and make you a ton of money. :)
 

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This is where I buy my batteries at.. 18650 18500 18350 series Lithium Ion rechargeable Batteries on that page it lists the different 3.7 and different mAh batteries but I see nothing that says high drain. Should I be looking for a different set of words or symbols or does battery junction not sell high drain?

The cartos with a drip tip// I'm using the 510 cartos(bought about 6 months (or 7) ago)< check that out, parenthesis in parenthesis lol...ok sry They have the rubber tops with the tube and the filler. The nice thing is I can fill it up like normal (condom) shake-blow, take off the rubber top put on a drip tip and it lasted an entire movie without a fill up. I got up the nerve to drip through the tip, I say that because I figured it would creep into the tube and leak like a wiki. It does not and you wanna know how I know that?? The new clear drip tips I just got from Rob. As hard as I try to make the drop go straight through the drip tip and land on the tube...it won't. It always catches the sides of the drip tip and oozes it's way down. I never knew that till today. cool huh!:laugh:
So now the only time I need to use the condom method is on the initial fill up and after cleaning..that helps much.

But still, although the flavor isn't bad it's just not the same. Will work great for those driving occasions so thanks much. Hey Politically Incorrect, do the gold style have poly fill..they look longer too which might be good.

Sewknitty: I personally run 4 attys daily. 2 are soaking in alcohol and 2 are being used. I switch them every night. Think about it this way...the little bugs that are going to be there regardless of what you do is OK. We live eat and breath them...it's the un-friendlies that you want to get rid of and most of them are associated with the absence of sterilization over a certain time period. My philosophy is clean it. If your using ISO make sure to rinse well with water. 190 proof works well too.

Not to offend anyone but may I say something about carts and filler.....OK that's it hag1
 

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Im not to much of a Cartos guy, I do use the newer type dripping Cartos that someone sells but mostly to try a new juice flavor or just to run one for a change of pass, I'm spoiled rotten on Variable voltage combined with juice feed, theres nothing like dialing that Atty and juice in just right, seemed like 8-81/2 Watts are my perfect numbers if there is a certain perfect. If I didn't have that I would be dripping, the fresh vape every hit is more enjoyable to me . I still say a beautifully built Alloy Box Mod by CDDZ would be one sweet looking Mod, I can just imagine some king of custom corner moving type switch that would give the juice bottle a light squeeze and hit the Atty on at the same time, and there only be one dial on the Mod on the inside to adjust the Voltage, CDDZ I know you have it in you, what ya say for 2011 you make this customer request come true man.
 

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Im not to much of a Cartos guy, I do use the newer type dripping Cartos that someone sells but mostly to try a new juice flavor or just to run one for a change of pass, I'm spoiled rotten on Variable voltage combined with juice feed, theres nothing like dialing that Atty and juice in just right, seemed like 8-81/2 Watts are my perfect numbers if there is a certain perfect. If I didn't have that I would be dripping, the fresh vape every hit is more enjoyable to me . I still say a beautifully built Alloy Box Mod by CDDZ would be one sweet looking Mod, I can just imagine some king of custom corner moving type switch that would give the juice bottle a light squeeze and hit the Atty on at the same time, and there only be one dial on the Mod on the inside to adjust the Voltage, CDDZ I know you have it in you, what ya say for 2011 you make this customer request come true man.

Now this is the beauty of true evolution, or conceptual evolution anyway. We went from a small tweak to the top of a silver bullet to a bang buster one of a kind box mod.
I love this place! Can I be beta tester for it, I mean I did start the thread, although you may hate me now:p :laugh:
 

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Just read this thread and thought I'd throw something out there for ya Rocky. I don't drip much but have had this leaking problem as well but for me (like others have said) I just keep a napkin handy. I love my SB as it's my go to anchor that I know will ALWAYS fire-up for me.
If this seepage problem bugs you enough, why couldn't you simply take a rubber grommet or stainless washer the right ID and OD size and just hot melt it to the top of your SB? That would give you the same effect as a groove would it not? Yeah... it wouldn't be the prettiest thing in the world but it would catch the little bit of juice from your dripping.
Just my 2
 

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Wow - that kind of rubbed me the wrong way, I have to say. Thank you for posting a follow-up saying it's not totally out of the question in the future.
Vapers VS. Mod lovers I think is the question. The ones who only buy basic 510s or Rivas are probably not going to drip. Although I do drip with the Ego I stealth vape with at work... :) Cartos irritate my lip, and I hate carts and the constant fighting with them. Using a drip tip on top of a carto makes it too long.
Out of the people I've had contact with, or read posts from, roughly half of them drip, and the others use a feeding system or cartos. So there is a large market you're not considering.

I've tried just about every mod under $150, and I have to say - I sold my SB and my GLV solely because I got tired of dealing with leakage on my fingers. I've bought expensive, cheap, LR, HR, all the different type connections - and they all leak sometimes. I never put more than 2-3 drops in.

Please don't dismiss a customer request because you don't need it. Most of the popular mods have juice wells, so perhaps you could make one model that has one and see how it sells? I'd love to see you make a model with one. I really liked my SB.
It could be a best seller and make you a ton of money. :)
Guess I can't please everyone
If I were to make a drip well on any of my devices it would only be available in chrome.

Actually it would be on them all, not sure how well the powder coated ones would hold up :)
 
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Rocky,

I would relinquish my Beta unit if picked to got to you to Beta it if we could get the Artist, Machinist, CDDZ to build it, no problem.!
Thanks and I hope one day you get your way

Guess I can't please everyone
If I were to make a drip well on any of my devices it would only be available in chrome.

Actually it would be on them all, not sure how well the powder coated ones would hold up :)

Now I'm not an expert on this but someone told me that anodized aluminum was the only type of metal that you would want to expose to the juice. Just heard it so please take that with a grain of salt. The chrome would go great with my Harley...er, if I get it for Christmas.:)..vroooom
 

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I'm going with 5% drippers or less (I'd lay even money on 3%). Not people who have dripped sometime, or drip on rare occassion, but people who drip most of the time.[/QUOTE]

5% or less???? Every person I sold on the Silver Bullet or Omega is a dripper! and we're talking at least 10 people not including my husband. I think you're wrong about the 5%.....but, at any rate, I would NEVER want a SB scarred with a juice well....no doubt about it, Silver Bullets are perfect just the way they are.
I admit that dripping is a learning experience. After all this time I just know when I need more juice, it's second nature now. When I first started the juice would drip down my SB also, but now it never happens.
 

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CDDZ, I just got back from work and wanted to thank you for the suggestion. The last two full days I have used a cartomizer and a drip tip. No more filling up at stop lights or on the road and I'm comfortable with the taste. No leaks no mess...I'm fine with it as it works well. I wish you and Rob and all the Alt Smoke junkies a Merry Christmas.
 

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I have been vap'n for 19 months and tobacco free for the same time period. I have had my SB almost all of that time and use a joy302 atty for dripping exclusively. I am not a fan of dripping while driving, so have an ego with a carto for that. But for the rest of the day, evening, night and early mornings the SB is my PV of choice (along with another make that will remain nameless).

Cartos just do not prduce enough clouds of vaper for me as the SB does with the 302. I am very carefull about the amount of juice I drip to avoid leakage. But it will occur on occassion. Just part of the maintainence of using a PV.

We will always be looking for the next little bit better PV. It is the nature of this terrific hobby. The consistency and reliability of an analog cigarette has yet to be duplicated by any PV maker. The SB et.al. are more closely aligned with a pipe or a cigar, for me, than a cigarette. But the cigarette is dead, long live the PV and long live us all who have switched.
 
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