And with it being glycerin only, without PG, it's going to affect a substantial percentage of people VERY badly. If I vape more than 15% VG, I can't breathe AT ALL.
Andria
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And with it being glycerin only, without PG, it's going to affect a substantial percentage of people VERY badly. If I vape more than 15% VG, I can't breathe AT ALL.
Andria
I guess it can be called an NRT cigalike.
Carbonated nicotine? Who'd a thunk it!! Or maybe they're using nitrogen.
Perhaps. I wouldn't really know what percentage of people are that sensitive to vg. I am not sure what type of atomizer you use, but it's possible you pull in the same volume ( or more ) of vg with every pull than someone using a cigalike containing 90 % plus vg liquid.
Regardless, as long as this initiative is just an extra option, i don't have an issue with it. Although they are in a minority, i do know people who managed to quit cigarettes with the help of cigalikes. My ex teammate in my pool team was completely resistant to using the type of mods i use. He did eventually quit cigarettes with the help of cigalikes. He was a dual user for a while, then strictly cigalikes for a few months, and for the past year completely nicotine free. They didn't work for me though. To each their own.
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You must be joking... using 86%-87% PG? at 9w? Believe me, if I pulled in even 15%-20% VG, I wouldn't be able to breathe -- I had to increase my PG from 85% to 86% and now to 87% because I had too much wheezing and coughing!
There are several threads pertaining to this problem; though most are not as sensitive to VG as I am, there are a few who are even more sensitive to it, who must vape 90%-100% PG.
Andria
No i wasn't joking. My point was that the total amount of vg inhaled with every pull is more determinative than the percentage of vg in the liquid, because the amount of vapor inhaled with a single drag is different from person to person depending on the equipment used, the duration of the puff, and how deep we inhale into the lungs etc ... The amount of vapor i inhale using a taifun at 12 watts is easily seven or eight times more than what i inhaled with a Blu e-cig ( with the same 3 second pull ). So using a 14 % vg liquid in my Taifun, i would get the same amount vg with every pull, that i used to get with the 98 % vg Blu e-cig.
Nice end run, if it gets prescribed it may mean it gets paid by NHS ...
Sell the fix ( cigarettes ) - make $$$
Sell the unfix ( e-voke or whatver ) - make $$$
Wonder what these glorified spray cans gonna cost...
Sell the fix ( cigarettes ) - make $$$
Sell the unfix ( e-voke or whatver ) - make $$$
Wonder what these glorified spray cans gonna cost...
Well, I assure you, I am not getting any huge amount of VG, because if I was, I wouldn't be able to breathe. This has been true since I used the eRoll, when I used the T3S, and now that I use an Achilles. I run it at 9w, with a 2Ω coil -- with those specs, and 87% PG, it's very easy to tell that a) I am not making much vapor, and b) not getting much VG, since I don't inhale deeply into my lungs; I doubt if I inhale much into my lungs at all, but only to a point just past my throat. I would use 90% PG if I could, but it's too irritating to my upper-airway mucosa, causing something very like a chemical burn.
Andria
Fair enough
It's probably not for you then. If you can only vape somewhat comfortably using a liquid that is no less than 87 pg and no more than 90 pg, you would probably fall in the 99th percentile or higher, as far as sensitivity issues.I can't vape high vg juices, the way i vape currently, but i didn't have any issues using two or three Blu cartridges a day ( almost all vg ), when i did. I didn't even know what the pg/vg mix was in my liquids at the time, or even what else was in the liquid besides nicotine !
Just did a Google search and so far it seems that there's no price on them as yet.
According to this article, the NHS could offer them for free, but it would cost them about $30 and $ 15 for replacement cartridges. Not clear how many cartridges in the replacement pack, and i didn't see a source for this info either.
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That's the price for the e-Voke, which is about in line with rechargeable cigalikes. I'm still wondering what the price of the Voke will be.
oh ok, didn't realize we are talking about the inhaler. my mistake. Do you know if it's being marketed yet ? It was approved in 2014.
If NHS is smart, they'd drag their heels about this prescription thingamajig and recommend folks to try genuine vaping. Saves them from having to pay BT for getting folks off the train they'd gotten them on in the first place.
AFAIK, compared to the rest of Europe, tobacco cigs are very expensive in the UK, so even paying out of one's own pocket ( like we all vapers currently do ) for gear and juice, numbers would be even more favourable...
Maybe Her Majesty's tax collectors are less happy... but with less money to count, the can go home earlier.
So it's win-win all around
Don't scold me , every now and then I need a bit of day-dreaming.
We'll know more for sure in May, when that ill-conceived TPD becoming effective...
Fair enough
I can't vape high vg juices, the way i vape currently, but i didn't have any issues using two or three Blu cartridges a day ( almost all vg ), when i did. I didn't even know what the pg/vg mix was in my liquids at the time, or even what else was in the liquid besides nicotine !
All that VG in the Blu's may go a long way toward explaining why they were so extremely sweet to me... I took like 2 hits and went UGHHHH and gave it away to my cigarette-bumming neighbor.
To me they tasted a lot more like pipe tobacco than any cigarette I ever smoked, and at the time, I found that taste disgusting. But at least they ...... me off enough to go to google... which brought me here. 
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