Ingredients in cartridges or E-liquid

[Mr.Darcy]

hell,i'll do it if the moneys right!

 

[Ludo]

CONTACT US THEN!

 

[icemanmaz]

if the money is right I am your partner

 

[Ludo]

The money is good, but we need a partner with a heart who thinks out of the box, who is first of all a NICE person, who is talented and who cares about customer service. We are ABSOLUTELY NOT interested in business for business sake. That's JANTY, we grew out of the e-smokers community and we do this because we want to be different and develop new stuff.

Harry, Jeff, Yves, Richard, Lina, Alan, Yng Yng, Ninette, Peter, Arent, that's our gang of good souls.

Wanna join us?

 

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

Ludo, thank you very much for publishing these certs.

Emp

 

[icemanmaz]

At least we know whats in them now

 

[Ludo]

But why all the above are they all safe?
as a stand alone chemical they might be but all together and heated up are they safe then.
I would like to know whats in johnson creek.
I bet they dont put so much fillers in there's

The percentage of these is so low that they are considered not harmful.

Give me some time and I will post all our reports here in the suppliers section. ..

 

[icemanmaz]

thanx for that I think a lot of people out there would love a report that finally says its safe or not so they can make there own judgement

 

[Kate]

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Below is a list of the ingredients in the Totally Wicked Liquid...All pretty harmless.. Its now being verified and tested by a UK company results and report will be available by late next week.

Materiel component list
序号
/NO. 主要成分
/MAIN INGRENDIENTS NAME 含量/CONTENT CAS No.
1 香料烟净油/Orient tobacco Absolute 1% Natural From tobacco
2 芫荽油/ Coriandrum sativum Oil 1% Natural From Coriandrum sativum
3 天然烟碱/L-Nicotine 高
中
低
无  2.5 %
 1.4 %
 1.1 %
 0 % 54-11-5
4 花椒油/Pepper Oil
1% Natural From Pepper
5 薄荷醇/ Menthol
1% 89-78-1
6 愈创木酚/P-Guaiacol 1% 90-05-1
7 索拉农/Solanone 1%
8 香兰素/ fragrant orchid element 1% 121-33-5
9 柠檬酸三乙酯/Tiethyl Ctrate 1% 77-93-0
10 乙醇/ethanol 1% 64-17-5
11 苯甲醇/ benzene carbinol 1% 100-51-6
12 甘油/ Glyceroliy 30% 56-81-5
13 丙二醇/ Propylene Glycol 50% 57-55-6
14 水/Water
10% 7732-18-5
注：以上原料均为医药用级 upwards material all are medicine class

Apparently the list of ingredients in Ruyan eliquid is in the New Zealand report. I've had a look and I can't find it, if I've overlooked it and someone knows where it is please could you post it, thanks.

There's a list of eliquid ingredients on this thread too - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/2256-ingredients-discovered.html. Does anyone know whose eliquid this list refers to?

Hopefully we'll be able to add Johnsons Creek ingredients and lab reports to this thread soon.

Supersmoker have an ingredient list and toxicology/lab report here - http://www.supersmokerjp.com/images/ToxicologylaboratoryTestResultsEnglishtranslatiion.pdf

 

[dc2k08]

Below is a list of the ingredients in the Totally Wicked Liquid...All pretty harmless.. Its now being verified and tested by a UK company results and report will be available by late next week.

are you getting the test done kate? and how much does something like this cost? i thought it was expensive. who does something like this?

 

[Kate]

Hi DC, no it wasn't me that said it, it was Pillbox. He commissioned the Totally Wicked range and was telling us about what was in it and that he's getting it tested. It's from this thread - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...y-wicked-e-smoking-liquid-about-hit-uk-7.html I don't know how much it costs but Pillbox wants to make sure he's selling decent stuff and that he's ready for the authorities if they want proof of safety.

 

[Stan Ferou]

as a stand alone chemical they might be but all together and heated up are they safe then.

This is something that continues to concern me. Establishing that the basic ingredients are relatively safe is one thing. But is there perhaps still the possibility of other, more toxic compounds being formed during the vaporisation process? And though these (hypothetical) toxins may still be a very small percentage of the mix, cumulatively might they still be a concern?

 

[icemanmaz]

Strange one this when you think about it.
As I understand eu law states that a product must state whats in it.
So why not e-liquid.
If e-liquid is breaking EU law delete this thread.
enough said.8-o

 

[Kate]

I know what you mean Stan, a cocktail of ingredients in eliquid could be more than the sum of its parts when vapourised. We can only hope that the toxicology tests take that into account. That's one of the reasons why I'd like to see more test results, each lab will have their own methods of testing and some might be more thorough than others.

"If e-liquid is breaking EU law delete this thread." Could you clarify what you are saying Maz, I don't understand? In the EU foodstuff must list ingredients but our liquid is not for eating so I suppose the suppliers have slipped it through the net. If it could be argued that eliquid is a consumable/ingestible product we might be able to get adequate labelling. Ingredients should be listed and there should be warnings on the labels about handling nicotine. The bottles should also be safety/childproof bottles.

 

[Kate]

I am asked not to give detailed percentages for obvious reaons of trade secret... but this is the basis of ALL our liquids. Add to this list the nicotine in 6 mg, 11 mg and 16 mg and you have it all.

All our liquids, either used for cartridges or sold as liquid bottle are APPROVED TUV and approved by the University of Naples, Italy and the Italian Ministry of Health as SAFE and LEGAL for sale.

INGRREDIENTS:
menthol
3-methylcyclopentan-1
2-dione
1-malic acid
2,3,5,6-tetramethylpyrazine
2,3,5-trimethylpyrazine
beta-damescenone
acetylpyrazine
2-acetylpyridine
ethanol
rhodinol
vanillin
propylene glycol

Ludo, am I right in thinking you have a toxicology report for your products? If they have been declared safe by the the University of Naples then there must have been research carried out. It would be really good if you could share the report with us, there isn't much formal research available to us and it helps us to understand safety issues better. It will also be good for customer confidence in your products.

If you do have a report, please could you post it on this thread - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-e-cig-related-legal-medical-information.html. Thanks.

 

[Kate]

...
There's a list of eliquid ingredients on this thread too - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/2256-ingredients-discovered.html. Does anyone know whose eliquid this list refers to?
...

It turns out that the thread mentioned above is about information from the Farsee Group. Electronic Cigarette¦òCigar¦òMini E-cig¦òManufacturer This is likely the composition of some generic eliquids and cartridges.

I'd love to know what Loong Totum put in their juice, they sell it on to ecig.com from what I've heard.

 

[Kate]

There's a page here about the Freesmoke eliquid. It's not very detailed but gives a bit of an idea of what's in it. Freesmoke elektrische Zigarette bester Qualität und Preisen -

"Contents materials:
1% alcohol (however evaporated before inhale),
Propylenglycol - acetyl Pyrazine
(flavour materials of the crust of the rye bread),
artificial one and natural edible flavour materials,
ethereal oils, tobacco oil."

 

[Kate]

There's a lab report on this thread about the safety of the contents of Pillbox's cartridges - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...smoking-liquid-about-hit-uk-18.html#post38207

 

[Kate]

There is a lab report about the Totally Wicked eliquid Pillbox sells here - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...smoking-liquid-about-hit-uk-20.html#post39187

 

[Kate]

Just for comparison (and 'cos I don't really have a life )

Here is a list of ingredients the lab found in Totally Wicked eliquid:

1-hexyl-2propyl-cyclopropane
Nitrogenous compound 0.25 Not identified No hazards identified
Water
Propylene Glycol
Methyl Cyclopentenolone
Nicotine
2-Octanol
2-Acetyl Pyrrole
3,4-Dihydro Coumarin
Palmitic acid
4-Methoxy Quinazoline

This is different to the Janty formula which includes:

menthol
3-methylcyclopentan-1
2-dione
1-malic acid
2,3,5,6-tetramethylpyrazine
2,3,5-trimethylpyrazine
beta-damescenone
acetylpyrazine
2-acetylpyridine
ethanol
rhodinol
vanillin
propylene glycol

This is what ecig.com say is in their juice:

TOBACCO ESSENCIAL OIL VIRGINIA
TOBACCO ABSOLUTE VIRGINIA
TOBACCO ABSOLUTE BURLEY
ORIENT TOBACCO ABSOLUTE TURKY
NICOTINE FROM TOBACCO LEAF
2 3 5-TRIMETHYLPYRAZINE
2 3-DIMETHYLPYRAZINE
2 5-DIMETHYLPYRAZINE
2-ETHYLPYRAZINE
2-ACETYLPYRAZINE
4-2 6 6-TRIMETHYLCYCLOHEX-2-BUTENE-4-ONE
4-2 6 6-TRIMETHYLCYCLOHEX-3-BUTENE-4-ONE
LINAL0OL
MENTHOL
METHYL BUTYRIC ACID
rose oil, bulgarian, true otto
vanilla extract
Octalactone
Undecalactone
PURE WATER
PROPYLENE GLYCOL
GLYCEROL