I received my first big loot of ecigs and juice (that I had posted about here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ed-help-my-first-big-order-2.html#post4722439 ) after about 20 days from ordering it and haggling with the customs office. I had gotten them shipped in 2 separate packages, one containing eliquid + filled cartos, and the other only containing hardware. So incase the customs had issues with the liquid, i'd still get my hardware and use locally available liquid. Funnily, since the value of the liquid was lower, that package came through much eariler, and the customs held the hardware, and I had to produce a bunch of documents and pay duty.
I have ordered a lot of hardware and eliquid, and have tried out all of it in the past 4 days. I think that was all i did in the past 4 days
So I am going to put down my initial thoughts about all that I have learnt and hope it helps new members here.
BATTERIES: I ordered all original Joyetech products, as I wanted to be sure about quality of the products, and most members here agree that Joyetech has pretty good quality. I got 2 - 650mah passthrough batteries and 1 1000mah battery, to be used between me and my friend. link: [Joyetech] Joye eGo T(Tank) Passthrough 650/1000mAh (USB battery) with Logo [A-06/08-1] - $18.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- . I am really satisfied with the battery in all aspects. The battery life is amazing! the 650 lasts me almost 1 and a half day. My friend got 3 days of continuous vaping out of the 1000mah battery! All of this is with constant vaping through the day. The 510 style batts have been lasting us about a couple of hours tops! So this is a big win. The best feature of the battery is the passthrough. I absolutely love the fact that you can charge the device while vaping. I realized I need these the moment I saw them! A passthrough charging battery lets you not worry about always having a spare battery around you, as the charging process does not need you to dismantle the ecig. And since I am always next to a USB port, desk or car, its perfect for my setup. I cant insist enough how cool the passthrough is and that mod makers need to consider the idea as well. The third awesome fact about the battery is that, unlike most other eGo clones, it is regulated. Hence the amount of vapor that you get in the first few draws from a charged battery is uniformly the same as the amount you get just before the battery charge depletes. I am a big sucker for consistency and uniformity and hence preferred these than the unregulated batts out there. Lastly, the finish of the batteries and all other Joyetech stuff is top notch. I got a matt black and 2 stainless steel batteries and like em both. The matt black rubberized finish is comfy to hold. The only gripe I have with the batteries is that they dont have any battery indicator. While a lot of clones have LED or even LCD indicators for charge, and some change color of the button LED, this does neither. Just blinks rapidly when the charge has completely depleted. I am hoping Joye comes up with something here. Otherwise, the batteries are perfect. I prefer the size of the 650 as its easily pocketable.
ATOMIZERS, CARTOMIZERS , TANKS: I got a bunch of SR and LR tank attys, again the labeled Joyetech ones, Links: [Joyetech]Joye eGo-T(Tank) Atomizer with Logo (Type A & Type B) [A-06-34] - $12.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- & [Joyetech] Joye eGo T(Tank) Low Resistance(LR) Atomizer with Logo(Type A&Type B) [A-07/08-2] - $10.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- All type B, 10 prefilled Boge 510D cartomizers (with 18mg RY4 and 24mg Virginia Tobacco) Link: 5pc Boge 510D Cartomizer in 16 Flavors [Boge 510 D] - $4.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- - These cartos were heavily recommended by most users here. And 10 of the EMDCCs - 5pc eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer (with HC Logo) - $18.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- I got these as I like the idea of a large capacity carto..
I have tried out both the cartomizers and the tank and contrary to the common notions here at ECF, I prefer the eGoT tanks more than either of the cartomizers. To be fair, I have had different liquid in all the 3 setups, so my preferences could be biased towards the tank as the juice that I preferred the most, (HC RY4, more on that later) is in the tank. Also do note that I prefer to have lesser TH and prefer to have as much volume of vapor possible. There is something very satisfying about blowing clouds out of your mouth, especially when its pleasant smelling vapor and not smoke Your priorities may differ. However, heres my quick feedback on the 3 systems:
Boge 510D - These cartos produce the least amount of vapor or TH when compared to the other 2 systems but in no means is it very little. The vapor from it feels a little dry compared to the others. I purchased matching cones to cover the 510 type cartos and they fit perfectly over these cartos. This setup is the smallest of the 3. Since I did the mistake of ordering prefilled ones, I have only tested these with the RY4 juice that the cartos came with. I am guessing this must be Dekang RY4 since Boge and Dekang are the same company. I have tried dekang RY4 in the tank as well, and preferred the tank to the 510D. I am still not giving up on these yet, will use them a while longer before deciding about these. I am also thinking of getting the SD keychain and using these cartos with it.
Health Cabin Ego Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers ( a.k.a EMDCC) - Thats quite a mouthful of an acronym and the cartos physical size lives up to the name! These cartos are huge! I have only filled one up with Dekang spearmint, and its still going strong! The EMDCC produces the maximum TH and has a few strong points. Firstly it holds a ton of juice. So for most heavy users even, a carto might last through the whole day and maybe longer. It produces strong TH which could be a plus for some, not me though. I got both Matt black and Stainless steel, to match my batteries, and they perfectly blend with the battery to create a neat looking (but huge) ecig. When attached to the 1000mah, the device becomes a mini baton of sorts, but is still classy to hold and use. Due to the easily removable tips (got the flat whistle tips) they are damn easy to fill. However, the vapor volume from these are still not as much as I get from the tanks. I am sure a lot of users will disagree with me on this as a DCC is supposed to produce double the amount of vapor, but I have compared this carto to the tank for 3 days by constantly alternating between them and feel the tanks are producing much better volumes. The vapor is also relatively hotter and the flavor is the highest. To fairly test these I need to put in the HC RY4 juice into one of these, but I have only 5 ml of that left and will do so when my next shipment of juice arrives. The other problem with these cartos are that you have to fill em up with 4 ML of juice, so if you dont like the juice, you will be left with a useless carto. I have also read that you need to top these up every 1ml of use, which means, you can never change the flavor once you fill these. So you need to be sure of the flavor you are filling into these. I am sure experienced users already have their ADV flavors sorted out and this wont be an issue with them. The final issue with these cartos are that I have no idea of how much I have used, how much remains and when do I top up. Maybe I will have an acceptable estimate of these, but having see-through windows would be great.
EgoT Tanks + Attys Type B (SR + LR) - As I have been saying, these have been the setup thats worked the best for me. Besides the fact that I like the vapor from these the most, I like a lot of things about these. I like it that I can clearly see how much juice there is and know before hand when you need to refill. A lot of people on the ECF have had problems with leakage. I got the spillproof silicone caps and havent had any issues regarding leaks (though it may be too early to confidently opine!). The tank snugly fits into the atty and once in, it feels quite solid. I had an egoT clone (Type A) before this and the tank was not so snug. I worried about putting that in my pocket as I worried about the tank accidentally coming off. With these genuine egoTs, that thought doesn't cross my mind. Its so well built and the way it fits together, it feels it would never come off accidentally. The LR attys seem to be producing more vapor than the SR, but the difference is too noticeable to me. Again, I have not tried the same juice between the 2 types of attys so I am not sure of the difference yet. I am currently primarily using the SR atty with a tank and am loving it. I have been cleaning the atty every time I reload the tank by blowing into the screw side of the atty as some users have suggested. When I do that, I see quite a few large drops of very dark liquid come out of the atty. Also when the liquid is down to less than half, the remainder liquid is much darker than the original. I am wondering why this is so. Until now, the tank and the atty have been working faithfully and I am loving the setup. However, my first egoT clone atty clogged and died in 3 days of heavy use. I wonder what the life of these are going to be. I must be one of the odd ones here to prefer these tanks over few of the most recommended cartos. If I like the tanks better than cartos over time, and the attys do not have a good lifespan, I think I will get an eGoC to reduce ongoing cost and hassle of replacing the whole atty. I'll be waiting for type B egoCs for sure though. The TH on these are right between the 510D and the EMDCC and is suiting me the most.
LIQUID - This is where I am currently in a complete mess! I have ordered about 12 flavors of dekang and HC juice, mostly PG based, half of them are 18mg and the other half, 24mg. On the first day of us, both me and my friend realized that 24mg is just too much for us. 18 suits us much better. So immediately half the liquid is not usable any more. I will order some 6mg to dilute these later). The flavors I have tried are: Spearmint, Tobacco, Dunhill, chocolate, clove, lemon, Virginia Tobacco, No flavor and RY4 by Dekang and Healthcabin. Of all of these, I like the HC RY4 the most. It is much different from the Dekang RY4. I liked the spearmint flavor too as its quite refreshing. I can tollerate the tobacco flavor and hate the rest! The dunhill flavor was so bad I immediately threw it away as just smelling the bottle gave me a headache! I still like the first tobacco flavor that I used from here: 5 Cartomizers - SteamLite India I still have some cartos left and try em out once a while to compare flavors and still like it the most. Unfortunately the vendor wont sell liquid and refer to only E Liquid -150 Flavors, E Juice, E Cigarette Liquid, E Cig Liquid, UK, USA, Canada, India, Smoke Juice, Electronic Cigarette Liquid by Zichhi E Liquid if you want to buy liquid. I tried their tobacco too and its not the same.
So I am only left with 5ml of the RY4 juice that I like and need to order some more. I realize I have a lot to discover and learn about flavor, and since flavor preferences are such a personal thing, no amount of forum reviews can help chose what you may like. Though this tip did help a lot http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...537-one-thing-ive-discovered-about-juice.html . I am limited to ordering from China as Juice shipped from the US to India would turn out super expensive and most of the US vendors I mailed, said they have stopped shipping internationally.
So thats where I am. I am loving vaping a LOT and have cut down analogs to 10%. Will surely give em up completely in a week or 2, as I am taking it up slow and steady. I have a lot of questions for the veterans that I'll post separately somewhere else. I hope my mini review helps some one looking at finding the right gear.
I have ordered a lot of hardware and eliquid, and have tried out all of it in the past 4 days. I think that was all i did in the past 4 days
So I am going to put down my initial thoughts about all that I have learnt and hope it helps new members here. BATTERIES: I ordered all original Joyetech products, as I wanted to be sure about quality of the products, and most members here agree that Joyetech has pretty good quality. I got 2 - 650mah passthrough batteries and 1 1000mah battery, to be used between me and my friend. link: [Joyetech] Joye eGo T(Tank) Passthrough 650/1000mAh (USB battery) with Logo [A-06/08-1] - $18.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- . I am really satisfied with the battery in all aspects. The battery life is amazing! the 650 lasts me almost 1 and a half day. My friend got 3 days of continuous vaping out of the 1000mah battery! All of this is with constant vaping through the day. The 510 style batts have been lasting us about a couple of hours tops! So this is a big win. The best feature of the battery is the passthrough. I absolutely love the fact that you can charge the device while vaping. I realized I need these the moment I saw them! A passthrough charging battery lets you not worry about always having a spare battery around you, as the charging process does not need you to dismantle the ecig. And since I am always next to a USB port, desk or car, its perfect for my setup. I cant insist enough how cool the passthrough is and that mod makers need to consider the idea as well. The third awesome fact about the battery is that, unlike most other eGo clones, it is regulated. Hence the amount of vapor that you get in the first few draws from a charged battery is uniformly the same as the amount you get just before the battery charge depletes. I am a big sucker for consistency and uniformity and hence preferred these than the unregulated batts out there. Lastly, the finish of the batteries and all other Joyetech stuff is top notch. I got a matt black and 2 stainless steel batteries and like em both. The matt black rubberized finish is comfy to hold. The only gripe I have with the batteries is that they dont have any battery indicator. While a lot of clones have LED or even LCD indicators for charge, and some change color of the button LED, this does neither. Just blinks rapidly when the charge has completely depleted. I am hoping Joye comes up with something here. Otherwise, the batteries are perfect. I prefer the size of the 650 as its easily pocketable.
ATOMIZERS, CARTOMIZERS , TANKS: I got a bunch of SR and LR tank attys, again the labeled Joyetech ones, Links: [Joyetech]Joye eGo-T(Tank) Atomizer with Logo (Type A & Type B) [A-06-34] - $12.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- & [Joyetech] Joye eGo T(Tank) Low Resistance(LR) Atomizer with Logo(Type A&Type B) [A-07/08-2] - $10.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- All type B, 10 prefilled Boge 510D cartomizers (with 18mg RY4 and 24mg Virginia Tobacco) Link: 5pc Boge 510D Cartomizer in 16 Flavors [Boge 510 D] - $4.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- - These cartos were heavily recommended by most users here. And 10 of the EMDCCs - 5pc eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer (with HC Logo) - $18.00 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail-- I got these as I like the idea of a large capacity carto..
I have tried out both the cartomizers and the tank and contrary to the common notions here at ECF, I prefer the eGoT tanks more than either of the cartomizers. To be fair, I have had different liquid in all the 3 setups, so my preferences could be biased towards the tank as the juice that I preferred the most, (HC RY4, more on that later) is in the tank. Also do note that I prefer to have lesser TH and prefer to have as much volume of vapor possible. There is something very satisfying about blowing clouds out of your mouth, especially when its pleasant smelling vapor and not smoke
Your priorities may differ. However, heres my quick feedback on the 3 systems:Boge 510D - These cartos produce the least amount of vapor or TH when compared to the other 2 systems but in no means is it very little. The vapor from it feels a little dry compared to the others. I purchased matching cones to cover the 510 type cartos and they fit perfectly over these cartos. This setup is the smallest of the 3. Since I did the mistake of ordering prefilled ones, I have only tested these with the RY4 juice that the cartos came with. I am guessing this must be Dekang RY4 since Boge and Dekang are the same company. I have tried dekang RY4 in the tank as well, and preferred the tank to the 510D. I am still not giving up on these yet, will use them a while longer before deciding about these. I am also thinking of getting the SD keychain and using these cartos with it.
Health Cabin Ego Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers ( a.k.a EMDCC) - Thats quite a mouthful of an acronym and the cartos physical size lives up to the name! These cartos are huge! I have only filled one up with Dekang spearmint, and its still going strong! The EMDCC produces the maximum TH and has a few strong points. Firstly it holds a ton of juice. So for most heavy users even, a carto might last through the whole day and maybe longer. It produces strong TH which could be a plus for some, not me though. I got both Matt black and Stainless steel, to match my batteries, and they perfectly blend with the battery to create a neat looking (but huge) ecig. When attached to the 1000mah, the device becomes a mini baton of sorts, but is still classy to hold and use. Due to the easily removable tips (got the flat whistle tips) they are damn easy to fill. However, the vapor volume from these are still not as much as I get from the tanks. I am sure a lot of users will disagree with me on this as a DCC is supposed to produce double the amount of vapor, but I have compared this carto to the tank for 3 days by constantly alternating between them and feel the tanks are producing much better volumes. The vapor is also relatively hotter and the flavor is the highest. To fairly test these I need to put in the HC RY4 juice into one of these, but I have only 5 ml of that left and will do so when my next shipment of juice arrives. The other problem with these cartos are that you have to fill em up with 4 ML of juice, so if you dont like the juice, you will be left with a useless carto. I have also read that you need to top these up every 1ml of use, which means, you can never change the flavor once you fill these. So you need to be sure of the flavor you are filling into these. I am sure experienced users already have their ADV flavors sorted out and this wont be an issue with them. The final issue with these cartos are that I have no idea of how much I have used, how much remains and when do I top up. Maybe I will have an acceptable estimate of these, but having see-through windows would be great.
EgoT Tanks + Attys Type B (SR + LR) - As I have been saying, these have been the setup thats worked the best for me. Besides the fact that I like the vapor from these the most, I like a lot of things about these. I like it that I can clearly see how much juice there is and know before hand when you need to refill. A lot of people on the ECF have had problems with leakage. I got the spillproof silicone caps and havent had any issues regarding leaks (though it may be too early to confidently opine!). The tank snugly fits into the atty and once in, it feels quite solid. I had an egoT clone (Type A) before this and the tank was not so snug. I worried about putting that in my pocket as I worried about the tank accidentally coming off. With these genuine egoTs, that thought doesn't cross my mind. Its so well built and the way it fits together, it feels it would never come off accidentally. The LR attys seem to be producing more vapor than the SR, but the difference is too noticeable to me. Again, I have not tried the same juice between the 2 types of attys so I am not sure of the difference yet. I am currently primarily using the SR atty with a tank and am loving it. I have been cleaning the atty every time I reload the tank by blowing into the screw side of the atty as some users have suggested. When I do that, I see quite a few large drops of very dark liquid come out of the atty. Also when the liquid is down to less than half, the remainder liquid is much darker than the original. I am wondering why this is so. Until now, the tank and the atty have been working faithfully and I am loving the setup. However, my first egoT clone atty clogged and died in 3 days of heavy use. I wonder what the life of these are going to be. I must be one of the odd ones here to prefer these tanks over few of the most recommended cartos. If I like the tanks better than cartos over time, and the attys do not have a good lifespan, I think I will get an eGoC to reduce ongoing cost and hassle of replacing the whole atty. I'll be waiting for type B egoCs for sure though. The TH on these are right between the 510D and the EMDCC and is suiting me the most.
LIQUID - This is where I am currently in a complete mess! I have ordered about 12 flavors of dekang and HC juice, mostly PG based, half of them are 18mg and the other half, 24mg. On the first day of us, both me and my friend realized that 24mg is just too much for us. 18 suits us much better. So immediately half the liquid is not usable any more. I will order some 6mg to dilute these later). The flavors I have tried are: Spearmint, Tobacco, Dunhill, chocolate, clove, lemon, Virginia Tobacco, No flavor and RY4 by Dekang and Healthcabin. Of all of these, I like the HC RY4 the most. It is much different from the Dekang RY4. I liked the spearmint flavor too as its quite refreshing. I can tollerate the tobacco flavor and hate the rest! The dunhill flavor was so bad I immediately threw it away as just smelling the bottle gave me a headache! I still like the first tobacco flavor that I used from here: 5 Cartomizers - SteamLite India I still have some cartos left and try em out once a while to compare flavors and still like it the most. Unfortunately the vendor wont sell liquid and refer to only E Liquid -150 Flavors, E Juice, E Cigarette Liquid, E Cig Liquid, UK, USA, Canada, India, Smoke Juice, Electronic Cigarette Liquid by Zichhi E Liquid if you want to buy liquid. I tried their tobacco too and its not the same.
So I am only left with 5ml of the RY4 juice that I like and need to order some more. I realize I have a lot to discover and learn about flavor, and since flavor preferences are such a personal thing, no amount of forum reviews can help chose what you may like. Though this tip did help a lot http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...537-one-thing-ive-discovered-about-juice.html . I am limited to ordering from China as Juice shipped from the US to India would turn out super expensive and most of the US vendors I mailed, said they have stopped shipping internationally.
So thats where I am. I am loving vaping a LOT and have cut down analogs to 10%. Will surely give em up completely in a week or 2, as I am taking it up slow and steady. I have a lot of questions for the veterans that I'll post separately somewhere else. I hope my mini review helps some one looking at finding the right gear.
