INR21700-40T Fakes already on the market

[Robin Becker]

Yesterday and today appeared on a forum in Germany (EDF) following images:

Seems to be Chinese made cells, that are rewrap with so-called genuine 40T sleeve. You can see on the buttom, that the sleeve is not really "tight".
batteries are 21.7 mm diameter (the 40T is supposed to be 21.3 mm) and were purchased here:
√ 3avape, Premium Vape Store

For your information and intention

 

[mimöschen]

The negative side on the authentic 40T is totally flat, which to me is a tiny bit more obvious than that loose wrap btw.

 

[Robin Becker]

And also the diameter. 0,4 mm makes a big deal.
But I think it is good to publish such things, people are able to identify very fast if it is genuine, or a fake...

 

[tailland]

I hope @3Avape_Dara is already informed about this. Selling counterfeit batteries is a complete no-go.

 

[Robin Becker]

I hope @3Avape_Dara is already informed about this. Selling counterfeit batteries is a complete no-go.

...and you think they didn´t know about that? It is like believing Vladimir Putin on saying, there are no russian soldiers on the Crimean peninsula

 

[tailland]

...and you think they didn´t know about that? It is like believing Vladimir Putin on saying, there are no russian soldiers on the Crimean peninsula

I too am a cynic, but I've learned to give people the benefit of a doubt if I don't have enough information to incriminate them.

 

[madstabber]

Thank you for the notification Robin. Well 3avape is going on the never purchase from list. Unless they come out with a public apology and refunds to anyone who purchased them they need to be avoided at all costs. They had the desire cut mod for crazy cheap I little while back. Now I wonder about it’s authenticity

 

[chellie]

I do not fully trust any of the China-based companies. I've absolutely been sold a counterfeit from GearBest and no longer order from them. Once was enough. If I had to pick one -- I'd take fasttech. They seem to order items in. I also feel I have gotten legit items from e-fun.top

 

[chellie]

The copyright laws are very lax in China and they can get away with a lot.

 

[Mooch]

Yesterday and today appeared on a forum in Germany (EDF) following images:

Seems to be Chinese made cells, that are rewrap with so-called genuine 40T sleeve. You can see on the buttom, that the sleeve is not really "tight".
Batteries are 21.7 mm diameter (the 40T is supposed to be 21.3 mm) and were purchased here:

For your information and intention

I couldn’t find the EDF forum to check for more pictures. Is there a set of codes on the metal can, near the top? The second character of the first line of codes should be a zero. Under investigation is the possibility that the top line of codes could also be “N40T” but I’m not sure yet it’s a genuine code.

No codes up there = fake.
Different number = fake.

The production 40T’s are being released about now and there’s a possibility that they changed the can. IMO, I don’t think so but it’s possible.

 

[Robin Becker]

Ist das eine Samsung 40T Zelle oder nicht?
In one of the images (very small) I added you can see even 3 codes...but the Minus side looks very Lishen a like and even the diameter of 21.7 mm speaks actually for Lishen...
tailland in General I agree with you and a retailer should always have to react...however no professional seller can tell me, he can´t recognize between a counterfeiting that is so obvious. An if a retailer does not have time for quality control, he is not professional enough for me...

 

[Mooch]

Ist das eine Samsung 40T Zelle oder nicht?
In one of the images (very small) I added you can see even 3 codes...but the Minus side looks very Lishen a like and even the diameter of 21.7 mm speaks actually for Lishen...
tailland in General I agree with you and a retailer should always have to react...however no professional seller can tell me, he can´t recognize between a counterfeiting that is so obvious. An if a retailer does not have time for quality control, he is not professional enough for me...

I agree...unless Samsung changed the can for the production release.
While I think they are fakes, especially since they don’t appear to have Samsung codes on them and could very well be Lishens, I always hate to make any definitive statements until I have seen all newer versions of the cell.

Thanks for that link!