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[Sam74]

I get vaping is better than smoking less toxins in your body but does anyone no what we are putting in our body by vaping. Any scientific people out there that have done research. I love vaping but hear so much mis info please help

 

[Baditude]

The misinformation is propaganda created by Big Tobacco and Big Pharma to serve their self interests. These companies have a lot to lose ($$$) should e-cigarettes gain a majority of the market share. Both have powerful lobbyists in Washington, DC who protect their financial interests. By comparison, the e-cig makers are mostly small "mom & pop" affairs without the financial backing or lobbyist support like the big companies. The govenment gets kickbacks from BT and BP, so lawmakers tend to favor them when making laws and regulations.

When you find a study that is anti-e-cig, take note of who funded the study. Chances are it was funded either by Big Tobacco or Big Pharma. Most researchers depend upon funding to do their studies; they are not about to "bite the hand that feeds them", now are they?

Landmark Study
E-CIGARETTE VAPOR NO MORE DANGEROUS THAN AIR






Ingredients in E-Liquid:

Propylene Glycol - often used in asthma inhalers as the pressurized inhalent
Vegetable Glycerin - natural sweetner often used in many food products; used to create fog effects at concerts.
Flavoring agents - generally considered safe for oral consumption; more studies needed on the effects of inhalation.
Liquid nicotine - studies have shown no more dangerous than caffeine; the real danger of smoking is the end products of combustion (tars) leading to cancer, not nicotine itself. Being a vasoconstrictor, nicotine can have harmful effects on those who have existing heart disease, hypertension, or diabetes. On the other hand, nictotine may have benefitual effects delaying dementia, treating chronic intestinal diseases, etc.​

 

[AngeNZ]

Here's some more for you:

10 Research Studies to Silence the Vape Skeptics

 

[Sam74]

Thankyou for your reply but hey we all no who owns the the monopoly on the tobacco industry is them alone. What i was after was alittle bit more in depth in how vaper might effect our body as its been around for a while. Like we know prolonged smoking can set off cancer. Was just a question yo see if anyone has delved into it if it is possible

 

[Jebbn]

This is where I started reading about 2yrs ago.
https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=vaping+effects+on+health&oq=vaping
Ive only been vaping 9 or 10months.
I read a lot before I started vaping. I continue to do so.

 

[bombastinator]

Afaik there are no significant effects. The most serious seems to be that people occasionally develop sensitivities to pg or VG

 

[Sam74]

Here's some more for you:

10 Research Studies to Silence the Vape Skeptics

Thankyou

 

[Sam74]

This is where I started reading about 2yrs ago.
https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&q=vaping+effects+on+health&oq=vaping
Ive only been vaping 9 or 10months.
I read a lot before I started vaping. I continue to do so.

That is awesome but overall what have you learned about cigs verses vape and side effects point keys would be great im sick of people telling vape is the same as smoking

 

[Sam74]

Afaik there are no significant effects. The most serious seems to be that people occasionally develop sensitivities to pg or VG

Thankyou pg and vg is what thankyou if you havr the time

 

[Letitia]

That is awesome but overall what have you learned about cigs verses vape and side effects point keys would be great im sick of people telling vape is the same as smoking

All you can do is educate yourself to educate them if they are open minded enough to listen. Be prepared to have your comments fall on deaf ears.

 

[Sam74]

All you can do is educate yourself to educate them if they are open minded enough to listen. Be prepared to have your comments fall on deaf ears.

Thankyou thats great letitia
Thats why im in this forum for experienced people and when i learn enough with the lingo And insightful information i will be learned and i will still do my own research, love this ecig and when im knowledgeable anothe i will make my point.

 

[Jebbn]

That is awesome but overall what have you learned about cigs verses vape and side effects point keys would be great im sick of people telling vape is the same as smoking

What Letitia said.

All you can do is educate yourself to educate them if they are open minded enough to listen. Be prepared to have your comments fall on deaf ears.

I cant put into a couple of neatly rounded sentences what I came to understand for myself or provide one specific link to one specific article that nails it, other than the link to a decade of published research papers.
By using different phrases in Google Scholars search bar you will find more research papers and many rabbit holes to disappear down.

 

[bombastinator]

Thankyou pg and vg is what thankyou if you havr the time

Pg and VG are the two bases used in e-cigarettes along with flavoring and nicotine. They generally make up the bulk of th eliquid. PG (proplyne glycol)is thinner, has a more neutral and clearer flavor, produces less vapor, and is more likely to create a sensitivity. VG (vegetable glycerine) is thicker, has a lightly sweet flavor, produces a lot more vapor, and tends to mute flavorings. Generally a mix of the two is used to create the desired characteristics of the juice.

I personally mix pure VG juice purely because it’s less complicated to have one type of base rather than two and VG is slightly cheaper.

 

[Baditude]

Last summer I was vaping outside of a craft store in Yellow Springs, Ohio; home of Antioch College. It's considered to be a liberal and progressive community. One of the sales staff came up to me, a perfect stranger, and said, "You know vaping is more dangerous than smoking."

I turned to her and asked, "Did you read that on Face Book?"

She said, yes, as a matter of fact she did. I told her it was fake news and to find a better source of informative news media. I didn't bother trying to educate her, as anyone who depends upon Face Book for knowledge is beyond my pay grade.

 

[Baditude]

Thankyou for your reply but hey we all no who owns the the monopoly on the tobacco industry is them alone. What i was after was alittle bit more in depth in how vaper might effect our body as its been around for a while. Like we know prolonged smoking can set off cancer. Was just a question yo see if anyone has delved into it if it is possible

I was simply explaining why there is so much misinformation out there in your other thread on the topic.



I did list a couple of studies that debunk the propaganda information.

Unless a vaper has a sensitivity to Pg or Vg, long term effects of using either seems to be negligible. I'm sure there are some studies somewhere to document that. You may wish to read this thread:

New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers​

The one ingredient that may have some dangerous effects, in my opinion, would be flavoring agents. Diacetyl for the most part has been eliminated from e-liquid recipes.

 

[Sam74]

What Letitia said.


I cant put into a couple of neatly rounded sentences what I came to understand for myself or provide one specific link to one specific article that nails it, other than the link to a decade of published research papers.
By using different phrases in Google Scholars search bar you will find more research papers and many rabbit holes to disappear down.

Thankyou for your response
But was looking more studi

Last summer I was vaping outside of a craft store in Yellow Springs, Ohio; home of Antioch College. It's considered to be a liberal and progressive community. One of the sales staff came up to me, a perfect stranger, and said, "You know vaping is more dangerous than smoking."

I turned to her and asked, "Did you read that on Face Book?"

She said, yes, as a matter of fact she did. I told her it was fake news and to find a better source of informative news media. I didn't bother trying to educate her, as anyone who depends upon Face Book for knowledge is beyond my pay grade.

Hilarious face book but my question was to know the effects of vaper vs cigs even thou go the vape so better

 

[Baditude]

Thankyou for your response
But was looking more studi

Hilarious face book but my question was to know the effects of vaper vs cigs even thou go the vape so better

Go to the CASAA website and explore the different topic headings. You should be able to find studies there.

 

[Sam74]

I was simply explaining why there is so much misinformation out there in your other thread on the topic.



I did list a couple of studies that debunk the propaganda information.

Unless a vaper has a sensitivity to Pg or Vg, long term effects of using either seems to be negligible. I'm sure there are some studies somewhere to document that. You may wish to read this thread:

New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers​

The one ingredient that may have some dangerous effects, in my opinion, would be flavoring agents. Diacetyl for the most part has been eliminated from e-liquid recipes.

Thankyou

 

[Sam74]

Thankyou

Sorry new to this site still trying to work this site out no need to be sorry

 

[flavourchaser]

Hello Sam,

Some people report an irritation in the throat and tightness in the chest, when using nicotine salts.

I use freebase nicotine it's been good, but I want to try nic salts soon. Hopefully it doesn't have an affect on me.